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Not growing GT * 1
    #26814305 - 07/10/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi

This is the 25 day.
And here we are.
I don't think we should be here now....Something wrong with my babies? Or should I be more patient?
Please tell me.



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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26814320 - 07/10/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Not sure if its gonna blob or if youre gonna have a ton of fruits.....


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26814329 - 07/10/20 05:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What is "blob"?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra] * 1
    #26814352 - 07/10/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Gigiagorra said:
What is "blob"?




mutated tissue masses, common with PE strains

do a search on the forum to get familiar with what to look out for


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: ROTIFIER]
    #26814359 - 07/10/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Can flushing help?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26814366 - 07/10/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Looks dry and not very healthy.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: ChemicalSpark]
    #26814367 - 07/10/20 05:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So What should I do?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra] * 1
    #26814519 - 07/10/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It pinned and then aborted that’s what the little balls are.

It does look dry. Heat has been making mine abort lately too so if your spot is over 80f try to cool it.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: A.k.a]
    #26814726 - 07/10/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And the healthy? Before your comment, said “not very healthy”. How’s fix it?
Btw.. many thanks!


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26814757 - 07/10/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

They almost don’t even look like cube blobs. Like maybe you got a culture of spider eggs or something. It looks like either a really strange culture that’s contaminated or some kind of contaminant fungus, maybe even mutants of whatever it may be. I’m just idea-ing but I don’t think you’re going to get any mature cubes from that.

I doubt there’s anything you could do for this particular grow but maybe we could help in the future. What was your process to get to this point?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Roger Clemency] * 1
    #26814837 - 07/10/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I've seen that somewhere before...




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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26814870 - 07/10/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Idk how I got to this point

😭😭😭

Can i wait  or throw it in the trash?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: A.k.a] * 2
    #26814882 - 07/10/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Like AKA said, it looks like they're aborting... Mass aborting ime is from too dry or too hot.
Where are you fruiting and what's your substrate?
I'd probably bottom water it and focus on making more jars.
Provide the conditions and let it do it's thing. That's all you can do.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Trichodingus]
    #26814959 - 07/10/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is a Grow kit by the Zamnesia.
12 hours in my room. 12 hours in the closet.
"focus on making more jars." I don't really understand. How do you mean?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26814977 - 07/10/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ah its a Dutch mycelium growkit. I know these. Basically just colonized brf cakes in a tray cased with verm. Legal over here :smile: With a myco bag for a fruiting chamber. I think it's dry. Just fill the whole thing up with water with the lid on for 4 to 6 hrs, drip off the excess moisture and place in the bag again for a second try but maybe your spot is too hot, sunny and dry? Put it in a shady place. Kit should fruit and if it doesn't, contact zamnesia for a replacement. No kidding

Edit: but since all the kits pretty much suck you're better off learning to grow mushrooms for real. 


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Tweeq]
    #26815034 - 07/10/20 12:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I try to fill it with water. and I'm waiting.
thanks for the much help! I will apply if there is a change or no.
Thank you so much! :smile: <3


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26815387 - 07/10/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Just keep fruiting as usual and see what happens. Nd dont worry, youre not about to hatch a colony of dangerous alien creatures :wink:


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26824172 - 07/14/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

6 days ago after fill water...


Is This better?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26824188 - 07/15/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't look too bad. Only time will tell if it will fruit though


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Tweeq]
    #26824199 - 07/15/20 12:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Is should not be already show pins?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26824324 - 07/15/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I bought Perlit... maybe will work...


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26824337 - 07/15/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

For what?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Tweeq]
    #26824354 - 07/15/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Because humidity without perlit is 88-91 approximately... And i'm afraid is too dry.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26824451 - 07/15/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It looks much better. Sometimes it takes a while. It’s probably strengthening the myc network right now and should pin again soon.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: A.k.a]
    #26826697 - 07/16/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Day 6 after fill the water..


I see a couple brown pins... but they had been there for three days.  they seem to have stopped developing 🤔


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26826963 - 07/16/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It looks like a lot of the surface myc dried out and died, and now it’s regrowing. I had that happen really bad my first grow and it took a little longer but still turned out really well.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: A.k.a]
    #26829983 - 07/18/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Day 7 after fill the water



I see this. Is this good or not? :laugh:


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830076 - 07/18/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Looks like your old pins have turned back to myc, which is good in itself. Don't be looking at it too much. Patience! This is why you wanna start another grow every few weeks; to keep busy during the wait :smile:


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830096 - 07/18/20 02:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Funny part about everyone here, that dense mycelium some people would call bacteria.  I don't see anything wrong.  The only thing I notice is that when it gets that colonized on top that it wants something to pin on.  In my case, coco coir layer on top, very thin, seems to trigger them once they finish colonizing (without ever getting that dense.)

(I should probably go back through your grow history to confirm all your steps.)

EDIT: Yeah it seems like you have a ton of healthy mycelium, perlite wouldn't be terrible to give it a top layer to start pinning but coir always seems superior to me.  They'll still probably pin but it doesn't look like they have a great top layer.

https://i.imgur.com/MD3Li.jpg

This is what I shoot for.. for some reason those fibers on the top layer trigger all those pins for me.


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    #26830102 - 07/18/20 02:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm fucked up...
I thought the humidity was too high.
And I blew it with a hair dryer. Then it was waiting for me ...

 


Many abort.. :/


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830148 - 07/18/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Dear lord why would you ever blast healthy cultures with dry heat?!@


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830149 - 07/18/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that was a really bad idea.. if humidity gets too high, just give it more air, not glowing hot paint stripper air..


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Tweeq]
    #26830153 - 07/18/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And now? Should I wait? I know,I’m an idiot... but this is a first growing... and I really want this.. what should I do now ?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830154 - 07/18/20 04:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Can you get a feel for the humidity level?  Make sure it's soaked and not too soaked, and decent airflow... I mean maybe it can come back from the hot air blast (which please never do again lol.)


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26830158 - 07/18/20 04:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)


Is this enough air or to much?


This is a humidity level... but i think is false number because it always around shows that.


Edited by Gigiagorra (07/18/20 04:25 AM)


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830169 - 07/18/20 04:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I would recommend just keeping humidity around that level, and just letting it try to come back to life, slight airflow/FAE wouldn't hurt but not necessary, especially strong heat/wind would be bad.  The less you do, the more you will get (aside from contams and whatnot.)  Just make sure they have enough water.


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    #26830171 - 07/18/20 04:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

How long do i wait until the next action?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830172 - 07/18/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Zero action, I would just make sure they have water and air.  If they have plenty humidity then you are fine to wait for probably 2-3 days at least I would say.  Just check on them a couple times a day to make sure no contams come in.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26830177 - 07/18/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ok.
And if not shows pin within 2-3 day’s ?


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830181 - 07/18/20 04:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Depends on how it reacts.  It looks fully colonized so it's either going to fruit/pin or just rot and start to smell weird.  Gotta let nature take its course lol.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26830188 - 07/18/20 05:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

For now... that smell is good 😃


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830190 - 07/18/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Omg, you have done something that I have yet to see anyone do. But oh well, what is done is done.

You have to learn patience my man. Like someone else told you here, if you dont have patience then you should just grow more, make more tubs, more plates, more jars so you keep busy and you leave the grow alone when it needs it.


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    #26830195 - 07/18/20 05:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Omg, you have done something that I have yet to see anyone do. But oh well, what is done is done.

You have to learn patience my man. Like someone else told you here, if you dont have patience then you should just grow more, make more tubs, more plates, more jars so you keep busy and you leave the grow alone when it needs it.





100% truth. Let the culture thrive, let it live, let it survive... the strongest ones will do their own thing, there is no need to mess with them most of the time as long as they are clean and have water.


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26830203 - 07/18/20 05:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yea. I know I'm impatient. because more than a month has passed.  and nothing has happened yet.
And  it is a grow kit, not a pf tek or  something els. The zamnesia says “3 weeks show pins”, but nothing. You knew dudes? :/


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26830212 - 07/18/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea. I know I'm impatient. because more than a month has passed.  and nothing has happened yet.
And  it is a grow kit, not a pf tek or  something els. The zamnesia says “3 weeks show pins”, but nothing. You knew dudes? :/




I think they will refund you or send you a new one if you contact them. Take picture of the kit with your order number on a paper and send it to them and explain. For gods sake say you just followed the guide they have. Do not say you grilled it with heat...


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: redhandmat]
    #26830274 - 07/18/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah that’s new myc sprouting from the dead surface myc.

Dude just mist it a tiny bit, put the lid on, and don’t even look in its direction for 10 days. All this messing with it is just prolonging things.

The biggest thing I learned about growing cubes is to just leave them the fuck alone and they’ll thrive.


It adapts to the conditions and then every time you drastically change something it has to start over and adjust to the new conditions.


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    #26835300 - 07/21/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

After 3day.



Nothing😕


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26835401 - 07/21/20 03:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Seems these little ones are making you wait. Ah I remember the impatience from my 1st grow, I tried out starting agar work and making other jars while waiting. I made a few mistakes with that grow too (sprayed it with iso instead of water by accident) but did end up successfull in the end. Myc can heal well.
Like some have mentioned perhaps a top layer could have been beneficial to surface humidity. In previous boxes I have done I added thin layer coir to one, thin layer vermiculite to the other. Both had the effect I needed but the coir top did grow a bit better


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: A.k.a]
    #26849393 - 07/28/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So.. we arrived at 10 days.. this is how we looks


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra] * 1
    #26849980 - 07/28/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I think it’s time to start a new grow my friend. This thing has been looking rough from the start and now it’s either contaminated or just so matted that nothing can grow.


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    #26850081 - 07/28/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

This is bad news for me


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    #26850953 - 07/28/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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This is bad news for me




Was this a growkit?


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    #26851018 - 07/29/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yas


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Re: Not growing GT [Re: Gigiagorra]
    #26851568 - 07/29/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well that explains it..

If it was from NL you may try to get a replacement. They will actually do this usually.

And this is all the more reason to learn agar, build a simple sab, buy a pc and get growing for real :smile:

Search for the user Bodhisatta or Bod and in his sig you'll find all the TEKs you need.

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