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OfflineDrshroomy88
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Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either??
    #26814096 - 07/10/20 12:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So I purchased some wine cap (Stropharia rugosoannulata} sawdust spawn off of Northspore, as well as some inoculated grains of Porchini (Boletus edulis) said to be almost impossible to cultivate..but I tried anyways. I've never had this type of mushroom grow in my lawn in 20 years, I assumed it was the wine cap, but the wine cap has gills yes? This mushroom does not have gills.. After reasearch I'm leaning towards neither exactly but more towards Boletus bicolor or Boletus pulverulentus which are really neither of what I purchased..I doubt its porcini as the stem is quite thin not bulbous at all...what's your take on this? I already emailed northspore with the same photos to ask them as I am confused. I inoculated a hardwood chip blend bed under my big old oak tree. Oddly enough even though most of the woodchip bed seems to be teeming with mycelium all around, most of them grew right outside the bed away from the shade and more in the full sun of my lawn in the grass.



Habitat:
Inoculated hardwood chips under my big oak tree. Seems to spread and grow more plentiful and larger and better out in my full sun grass lawn though.

Gills:
No gills, yellow sponge that bruises blue instantly when touched or cut

Stem:
semi thin, white to red towards bottom

Cap:
Red to dark red/brown, smooth

Spore print color:
n/a

Bruising:
Blue instantly under cap and on slightly on stem.

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom, n/a

















Wine cap, Porchini, or other?
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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #26814705 - 07/10/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Boletus sensibilis is my guess..


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Icyurmt]
    #26815301 - 07/10/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm ok. Yeah it seems you might be correct, everything seems to be spot on for this species. How do you think I got these guys instead of wine caps? contaminated spawn? or contaminated woodchips? I mean these are not technically wine caps..I have yet to get a response from NorthSpore. Definitely edible though yes? As in wont kill me or my family haha?


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #26815338 - 07/10/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If it is a Boletus sensibilis then it is poisonous and definitely not edible.  It could’ve already been there before you put out the spawn,  you would never know until they fruit..  Boletus sensibilis form mycorrhizal relationships and quiet often with oak trees.


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Icyurmt]
    #26816437 - 07/11/20 03:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Icyurmt said:
If it is a Boletus sensibilis then it is poisonous and definitely not edible.  It could’ve already been there before you put out the spawn,  you would never know until they fruit..  Boletus sensibilis form mycorrhizal relationships and quiet often with oak trees.




I've read its only poisonous to some people causing mild to severe upset stomach?


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #26817028 - 07/11/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Icyurmt said:
If it is a Boletus sensibilis then it is poisonous and definitely not edible.  It could’ve already been there before you put out the spawn,  you would never know until they fruit..  Boletus sensibilis form mycorrhizal relationships and quiet often with oak trees.




I've read its only poisonous to some people causing mild to severe upset stomach?





I’ve read that as well, though I’ve also heard it reported that there was at least one family who got muscarine poisoning from eating B.sensibilis (apparently documented by Michael Beug).  Between the reported lack of taste and the risk of a hospital visit, to me its never seemed worth it to try them myself.


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Icyurmt]
    #26817084 - 07/11/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well damn...how sure are you it's not another species? I just feel it's a waste..worked to hard to get something to grow. My mycelium woodchip bbed smells up the whole backyard, the things fully colonized I was almost 100% sure they're coming from there. Just never seen anything like this in my yard ever


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: Drshroomy88]
    #26817150 - 07/11/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It's not coming from your woodchips, it's coming from tree roots from a nearby tree. Theres an oak tree close by isnt there, boletes are mycorrhizal especially oaks.
I think a closer match for this is Boletus innixus.


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Re: Wine Caps or Porcini?? I inoculated both under oaks, but not sure which if either?? [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26817176 - 07/11/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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MentalPariah said:
It's not coming from your woodchips, it's coming from tree roots from a nearby tree. Theres an oak tree close by isnt there, boletes are mycorrhizal especially oaks.
I think a closer match for this is Boletus innixus.





Does B.innixus bruise blue?


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