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OfflineBrian Jones
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26824466 - 07/15/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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The population is gigantic, the sanctity of life is not respected, their government leaders are above reproach and their people don't have the means to defend themselves.




Their gigantic population is a major part of the calculation that they will soon become the world's largest economy. India is also projected to pass us and they have the 2nd highest population. High population is an ecological problem, but it's an economic asset if the other ingredients for economic development are in place. China and India have a huge number of peasants and low level workers, but they also have a huge number of very educated people.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26824472 - 07/15/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Vigilantevendetta you're right, the  covid numbers are inflated. The definition of a covid death is anyone who dies with a positive diagnosis for corona, be it an auto accident or gunshot wound! Hospitals are filled with greedy healthcare workers with an high standard of living, incentivised by government funding to inflate the numbers and I'm sure they're worried that if their customer supply dries up, they'll have to start doing honest labor. From head to toe, the whole system is sick!




You just made that up.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26825554 - 07/15/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26825566 - 07/15/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Vigilantevendetta you're right, the  covid numbers are inflated. The definition of a covid death is anyone who dies with a positive diagnosis for corona, be it an auto accident or gunshot wound! Hospitals are filled with greedy healthcare workers with an high standard of living, incentivised by government funding to inflate the numbers and I'm sure they're worried that if their customer supply dries up, they'll have to start doing honest labor. From head to toe, the whole system is sick!




You just made that up.






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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
    #26825571 - 07/15/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

(This took me 10 seconds to find with a Google search. There are plenty of stories like this.)

"News 8 can verify that hospitals do get paid more for COVID-19 related cases.

A provision in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security or CARES Act pays an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates during the public health emergency.

How much are hospitals getting?

The numbers vary.

During a television interview, a Minnesota state senator said it was $13,000 for someone admitted with COVID-19, and $39,000 if they were placed on a ventilator.

Those estimates, however, have not been verified."


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
    #26825579 - 07/15/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Do you like the free market idea that hospitals can charge what they want?


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
    #26825584 - 07/15/20 04:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Every disease has a flat Medicare fee


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26825588 - 07/15/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: koods]
    #26825605 - 07/15/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So 13 out of every 1000 people will die with covid, some of car accidents,
some of suicide, and that means everyone must be muzzled in public?


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26825606 - 07/15/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What do you mean some of car accidents?🤔


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: koods]
    #26825657 - 07/15/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

he thinks that covid deaths are over counted because of people who have it but die from unrelated causes like car accidents.
no mention of under counting by conducting limited testing and thus limiting positive diagnoses though.  weird.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26825734 - 07/15/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone who really dies of it, will probably go to the hospital and represent their statistic. But car accidents and suicides and everything else is still counted as a covid death is the person is positively confirmed to have the virus when they perish. This means the numbers are greatly inflated.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26825737 - 07/15/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That's simply not true.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
    #26825980 - 07/15/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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That's simply not true.




Check my two posts.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26826021 - 07/15/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Everyone who really dies of it, will probably go to the hospital and represent their statistic. But car accidents and suicides and everything else is still counted as a covid death is the person is positively confirmed to have the virus when they perish. This means the numbers are greatly inflated.



If you have covid and you get hit by a car your cause of death will be listed as trauma of some sort. Covid deaths are where covid has contributed to the person’s demise.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
    #26826026 - 07/15/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Your posts seem unrelated.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
    #26826029 - 07/15/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Enlil, please look at the official definition of a covid death


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Hartford]
    #26826036 - 07/15/20 09:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What do you allege to be the official definition?


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
    #26826038 - 07/15/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

People who HAVE covid but don't die from it, say they are in hospice for example, they're counted as a covid death. It's in the video I posted.

Hospitals get paid like anywhere from 10K-30K more per death if the cause of death is covid, because of provisions in the "Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security or CARES Act "

This is causing everyone to lie about it. I believe positive tests wind up getting hospitals more money, too, which is why Florida was just caught in a scandal where they had like 90% of all testing the other day wind up be positive.


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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
    #26826049 - 07/15/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You presume people are lying about it. That woman very clearly said that they exclude deaths caused by auto accidents:

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/dr-ngozi-ezike-refutes-notion-that-illinois-is-over-counting-covid-19-deaths/2270810/?amp


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