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Enlil
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
#26837818 - 07/22/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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His opinion, like the opinions of all dead folk, couldn't be less relevant.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
#26837824 - 07/22/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh wow, you just jumped from Carlin to all dead people have nothing worth saying?
Not sure if that hill is worth dying on. I may check you on this down the road.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
#26837826 - 07/22/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dead people don't say shit, but you are creating a strawman. Opinions, as a rule, are pretty worthless. Opinions of dead people are infinitely so. I didn't say that anything said by a person who is now dead is worthless. Just opinions.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
#26837859 - 07/22/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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To be honest, this entire board is pretty worthless. Some people's opinions more than others infinitely so.
So I mean, to each their own.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
#26837862 - 07/22/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Everything on the planet is worthless. It'll all be swallowed up by the fire of the sun soon enough. All we're doing is killing time.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil] 1
#26837870 - 07/22/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dead people have nothing useful to say and everything on the planet is worthless. Got it. This mental list I'm making of your values, or lack thereof, is really starting to help paint of a picture of why you stand where you stand.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
#26837888 - 07/22/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My values are irrelevant. Where I stand, while unknowable to you, is equally irrelevant.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
#26837892 - 07/22/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I find it very relevant to painting a picture of personality templates. The more information I have, the better the picture.
Just because you claim it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean you can claim it doesn't matter to me.
And I don't share your nihilistic values.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
#26837901 - 07/22/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your values, like mine, are irrelevant to this discussion. In the past week, you have said some of the most ignorant, false, and banal shit I have read in a long time. The ideas you present, as well as the form in which you express them are garbage. YOUR values, YOUR intelligence, and YOUR capacity for rational thought are all irrelevant. You might be a genius, but you post stupid shit. The posts are all that's relevant.
Similarly, my values, my intelligence, and my capacity for rational thought are irrelevant.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil] 2
#26837909 - 07/22/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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now he has to google "banal"
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
#26837972 - 07/22/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Your values, like mine, are irrelevant to this discussion. In the past week, you have said some of the most ignorant, false, and banal shit I have read in a long time. The ideas you present, as well as the form in which you express them are garbage. YOUR values, YOUR intelligence, and YOUR capacity for rational thought are all irrelevant. You might be a genius, but you post stupid shit. The posts are all that's relevant.
Similarly, my values, my intelligence, and my capacity for rational thought are irrelevant.
What I'm hearing is you don't value the discovery of these things.
Well, I do. I like to see how often values match political positions. So far there's quite the correlation!
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil] 1
#26837979 - 07/22/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: The ideas you present, as well as the form in which you express them are garbage. YOUR values, YOUR intelligence, and YOUR capacity for rational thought are all irrelevant. You might be a genius, but you post stupid shit. The posts are all that's relevant.
You should provide some examples. What I've seen is that he'll post something, you'll take it uber-literally, and he'll clarify what the rest of us knew he meant in the first place.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Enlil said: The ideas you present, as well as the form in which you express them are garbage. YOUR values, YOUR intelligence, and YOUR capacity for rational thought are all irrelevant. You might be a genius, but you post stupid shit. The posts are all that's relevant.
You should provide some examples. What I've seen is that he'll post something, you'll take it uber-literally, and he'll clarify what the rest of us knew he meant in the first place.
Will do:
Speaking of Chaz: "Not only did they manage to push the per capita murder rate ten times higher than the worst cities. . ."
On the minimum wage: "If you're still making minimum as an adult, you haven't developed any actual life skills, so go stop playing video games and learn a talent"
On race: "African Americans are about 12% of the population yet commit more than 50% of the crime."
"I would argue in 2020 there is as much black privilege as there is the kind white privilege you speak of. Maybe more. "
"Expect more and more black people to be able to say whatever horrible things they want to about whites, cuz they're now privileged to do so. Racial slurs against white people are the new norm. Whites are getting bombarded in 2020 at 50 times the rate black people are with racial slurs and the media sucks the dick of the people who do it."
On masks: "One does not know if one needs a mask or not until one finds out if an event is on the political left or right."
Admitting to trolling: "If you have more than two brain cells, you can debunk my position . . ."
On foreign invasions: "If a second civil war broke out, we'll likely wind up in Chinese territory without even having to move anywhere within a few years."
All of that is from the first few days of him posting here. I randomly clicked his posts, so there are likely many stupid things I missed. I admit, however, that a few of his posts weren't as stupid as these.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil] 2
#26838127 - 07/22/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Those are good examples, thank you. 
I asked because the arguments seemed to drift towards semantic arguments.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Enlil said: The ideas you present, as well as the form in which you express them are garbage. YOUR values, YOUR intelligence, and YOUR capacity for rational thought are all irrelevant. You might be a genius, but you post stupid shit. The posts are all that's relevant.
You should provide some examples. What I've seen is that he'll post something, you'll take it uber-literally, and he'll clarify what the rest of us knew he meant in the first place.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Vahn421]
#26838162 - 07/22/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Speaking of Chaz: "Not only did they manage to push the per capita murder rate ten times higher than the worst cities. . ."
Actual per capita statistics and my military insider friend both confirmed this.
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On the minimum wage: "If you're still making minimum as an adult, you haven't developed any actual life skills, so go stop playing video games and learn a talent"
A little hyperbole mixed with a lot of truth. If an immigrant without shoes that can't even speak English can preform your job as well as you, you really are a loser as an American and have squandered your gifts.
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On race: "African Americans are about 12% of the population yet commit more than 50% of the crime."
And I QUICKLY CLARIFIED that I meant MURDER and not just CRIME. And it IS true. (God, I'll bet you make a LOT of money as a lawyer with your deception.)
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"I would argue in 2020 there is as much black privilege as there is the kind white privilege you speak of. Maybe more. "
This wasn't even a definitive statement but my opinion.
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"Expect more and more black people to be able to say whatever horrible things they want to about whites, cuz they're now privileged to do so. Racial slurs against white people are the new norm. Whites are getting bombarded in 2020 at 50 times the rate black people are with racial slurs and the media sucks the dick of the people who do it."
100% fucking true. It's already happening.
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On masks: "One does not know if one needs a mask or not until one finds out if an event is on the political left or right."
This was a JOKE based on actual media hypocrisy!
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Admitting to trolling: "If you have more than two brain cells, you can debunk my position . . ."
Obvious hyperbole in response to people's hyperbolic statements against me.
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On foreign invasions: "If a second civil war broke out, we'll likely wind up in Chinese territory without even having to move anywhere within a few years."
Speculative conjecture. I even used the word, "likely" WHICH WAS CONTINGENT ON A HUUUUGE, "IF!" It was not a definitive statement, despite seeing how much influence China already has over our media and politics.
Try again, man.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Enlil said: The ideas you present, as well as the form in which you express them are garbage. YOUR values, YOUR intelligence, and YOUR capacity for rational thought are all irrelevant. You might be a genius, but you post stupid shit. The posts are all that's relevant.
You should provide some examples. What I've seen is that he'll post something, you'll take it uber-literally, and he'll clarify what the rest of us knew he meant in the first place.
Dude you're the raining champ of arguing semantics because the correct words werent used.
You once derailed a topic for 2 pages because I used murder and homicide interchangeably (even though murder is homicide)
Everyone knew what I meant but you were so adamant about it.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: natedawgnow] 2
#26838398 - 07/22/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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*reigning
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: Enlil]
#26838405 - 07/22/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes thank you sir.
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Re: Politics and mask wearing [Re: natedawgnow]
#26838430 - 07/22/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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murder is homicide
They aren't quite the same thing...
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