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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26812855 - 07/09/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If i put a weenier in my mouth does that make me gay??
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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26812883 - 07/09/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
That's the thing about hate speech. It's subjective.

Satire and parody too.




its not hard to investigate someones intent

it just depends on the district and how much money the defense has for court

the people who are targeted by hate speech understand this because they have dealt with the same variety of hate for centuries.


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26813046 - 07/09/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Right but... on a platform like youtube where they have to investigate thousands if not millions of accusations daily... it's easier just to take the content down rather than do a thorough investigation.


It's why people had alot of issues over copyright filters and such on YT.



All it takes is one person viewing it as hate speech or someone who realizes that algorithm is a tool they can use against those they hate.


Minorities are not a monolith.

Alot of comedy has aged poorly. Notable black comedians come to mind. Profane language and laughing at the stereotypes and such of your own race was funny to most people 20 years ago. More and more people thought it bad taste.

There are still some people that find it funny. But the career of those folk is pretty much gone because it was... not hate speech exactly but progressing the views of those who perpetrate hate speech.

And to some people's mind that's the same thing.


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26813050 - 07/09/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

which is fucced up cause we have so many examples of hate speech to determine if it is or isnt


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: Texas Honey Badger] * 1
    #26813058 - 07/09/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Spicemaster said:
If i put a weenier in my mouth does that make me gay??
:rollingsohard:



Depends on what you do with it once it’s in there..:derfase:


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26813097 - 07/09/20 02:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
which is fucced up cause we have so many examples of hate speech to determine if it is or isnt




Wouldn't argue with that, I'm just saying it's a thing that happens because it's a little subjective.


:ohwell:


I didn't see alot of people getting upset about the overuse of "nigga" until some people started telling other people that they should be upset by it. And there's some valid thoughts behind that. But it kinda highlights the different POVs that can effect how words are received.


Again "nigga" isn't hate speech and no one would seriously argue it but people do argue that it comes from a hateful origin and often is used in conjunction with harmful stereotypes and hateful ideas.



I mean how many times has the shroomery argued that white people should be able to say the N word if black people say it?


That intent and the okayness of it was a hard thing to absorb.

So interpretations of "harmful" speech have probably progressively become more black and white. ...pun not intended.



Personally I'm happy the LGBT community reclaimed the word "queer" and I'd be pissed if someone said I couldn't use it because it has a shady history.


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26813146 - 07/09/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



sorry for poasting these all day but...


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26813189 - 07/09/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The platform should regulate the degree of hate speech that is allowed and the consumer can decide. If they let nazis congregate there then they are a nazi site. Though I believe that should be illegal.

Its one thing to have free speech, but I think there are topics that should be illegal to promote by an organization that is for profit, especially on social media.

I think hate speech should be defined as 'speech that can lead to violence or death'. Which has historical precedence. Its not hard to regulate. You can call people names all day and I think everyone being agreeable leads to hitler.

calling a black person the n word should be contextualized as hate speech, at least in america, because of slavery, lynchings, and the countless mechanisms of degradation associated with the word.


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26813203 - 07/09/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
The platform should regulate the degree of hate speech that is allowed and the consumer can decide. If they let nazis congregate there then they are a nazi site. Though I believe that should be illegal.

Its one thing to have free speech, but I think there are topics that should be illegal to promote by an organization that is for profit, especially on social media.

I think hate speech should be defined as 'speech that can lead to violence or death'. Which has historical precedence. Its not hard to regulate. You can call people names all day and I think everyone being agreeable leads to hitler.

calling a black person the n word should be contextualized as hate speech, at least in america, because of slavery, lynchings, and the countless mechanisms of degradation associated with the word.




And you’re the one calling me a fascist.


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26813204 - 07/09/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

[CookieCrumbs]
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I didn't see alot of people getting upset about the overuse of "nigga" until some people started telling other people that they should be upset by it. And there's some valid thoughts behind that. But it kinda highlights the different POVs that can effect how words are received.




As a white guy I grew up in what apparently was a very special melting pot near a military base, where everyone was your nigga.  You called all your brothers dirty spics, filthy niggas, commie chinks, and cracker/inbred honkies on the daily, with much love.  When I moved away from there to Alabama, I learned that not everyone is on that page, the page where you forget your differences and bond over similarities and love your fellow humans.

Also here in Alabama, a surprising number of folks take offense towards the words "faggot" and "bastard," which I find comical by means of how I found out. Bastard just sounds like an excellent word, I have never seen or heard anyone insulted because they got called a bastard because they were born out of wedlock.  Faggot is a word I consider MINE, because I am bi and I get shit from both the straight and gay (and the bi female) community for it, and I like to suck dick so much I am probably better than you at that pleasure.  Faggot is just awesome, when it's not used to disparage gay men it is generally meant to be funny, like specifically as a joke, partly because of how the word sounds and partly because fruits get a giggle out of me in the best way :wink:

Some places have history, I get that. But I bet most motherfuckers with a problem got over history really quick in school, and made a bad grade. I have never personally met a smart racist person, but they must be out there :shrug:


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: MorphinTime]
    #26813275 - 07/09/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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And you’re the one calling me a fascist.








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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: cannabinated]
    #26813507 - 07/09/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Oh, no.  He’s a communist, not a fascist(sic).


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: lowbrow] * 2
    #26813566 - 07/09/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

pretty sure youtube was having serious problems with its auto flag moderation system. If you had certain words in the title, etc.. It would automatically be taken down. A bunch of youtubers had massive drops in traffic cause of it. Many positive lgbtq youtubers were affected by it and they never did anything "controversial" but were impacted by it nonetheless. Idk if its been fixed by now or what.


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #26815269 - 07/10/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



Edited by cannabinated (07/10/20 10:31 PM)


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: Asante]
    #26815418 - 07/10/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I've contested it nonetheless, lets see what comes of it!


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: Asante]
    #26815439 - 07/10/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I had a DMT smoker vid yanked due to that overhaul.:shrug:


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Re: 12 years ago I posted a Gay themed funnies video on youtube. [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26815633 - 07/10/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So, I just designed an intro for a podcast on YouTube and put it up maybe a month ago.  It has absolutely nothing in it bad and got the same exact flag.  It came with a disclaimer that everything is automatic now due to COVID and they're flagging lots of stuff that shouldn't be.  I even disputed it and they said that it had something wrong with it and that was the end of it.  I wasn't able to get it up.  It had original music and was an animation of some flamingos.


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