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Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder * 12
    #26812260 - 07/09/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi there,

this is a quick pictorial on how to extract mescaline, along with the other cactus alkaloids, for proper dosing and almost nausea free ingestion.

The procedure is the following:

- Chop up and boil your cactus for several hours.
- Repeat boiling a few times, like three times for two hours each minimum, with fresh water each time.
- Collect the liquids from each boil and reduce to a smaller ammount. Add some vinegar or citric acid, to make the solution acidic.
- Defat with xylole two times, till the solvent remains clear (optional).
- Base with lye till it's highly basic & stirr well. Let sit for a few hours to freebase all the alkaloids.
- Extract with xylole three times.
- Wash the xylole with basic water till the water remains clear (optional).
- Salt out the alkaloids with water and a few drops of diluted HCl.
- Repeat salting with fresh water and HCl two times.
- Let the water with the HCl evaporate completly, a brown residue should appear.
- Wash this with acetone a few times, till the acetone remains clear.
- Re-x by dissolving again in a splash of plain water and leave to dry slowly. This is optional, just to get an impression of the crystals and purity.
- Scape it up and enjoy.



Here are a few pictures.

Boiling the cactus.
I used like 7 feet of different cacti, in two big pots.




Defatting with xylole till the solvent remains clear.

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Extracting with xylole.

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Washing with basic water will the water remains clear.

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Salting the solvent with acidic water (HCl).

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Leave to dry to get a brown residue.




Wash with acetone several times, till the acetone remains clear.

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Dry and store in a glass vial. Optionally dissolve again in water, then let dry again slowly to get some nice crystals.
7 thin feet of cactus led to 1.2g of alkaloids as HCl salt.

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Edited by Pandemoon (07/09/20 07:25 AM)


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #26812280 - 07/09/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nicely written and great pics!


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26812300 - 07/09/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice. Is xylole expensive, cant find it anywhere in my hardware store. Can you use cleaning petrol?


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: polaritymind]
    #26812343 - 07/09/20 08:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Cleaning petrol.. I don't know what it's made up with. If it's mainly naphtha or petroleum-ether it won't work well, as mecaline is hardly soluble in naphtha, if at all.

Xylole is often the main ingredient of paint thinner (like nitro diluent). Check some brands out, see the ingredients, if it's mainly xylole then it should work.

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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Pandemoon] * 1
    #26812485 - 07/09/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Incredible write up, Pandemoon! :aweyeah::goodwork:


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Psicomb] * 1
    #26814042 - 07/10/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks great!
Thanks for posting.


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Staplerhead] * 1
    #26814061 - 07/10/20 12:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Gotta love the way mescaline crystals form, so beautiful! Nice writeup.


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Staplerhead] * 1
    #26814063 - 07/10/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:takingnotes:


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: The Thing]
    #26849525 - 07/28/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Bumping this cuz its important information goddammit!!!!

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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Psicomb] * 2
    #26849548 - 07/28/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Xylole = Xylene.


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Asante]
    #26851470 - 07/29/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well??? Did you try it?


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: igorcarajo]
    #26852727 - 07/29/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Indeed a trip report with a measured dose is required :super::super:


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Blazer420]
    #26854020 - 07/30/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Also 1.2 g out of 7 feet of cactus, that seems like a low yield, no? Or is that typical?


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: igorcarajo]
    #26854237 - 07/30/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It can vary quite a bit depending on thickness of the cactus and potency of the specific cuttings used.


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: igorcarajo] * 1
    #26854272 - 07/30/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

igorcarajo said:
Also 1.2 g out of 7 feet of cactus, that seems like a low yield, no? Or is that typical?



Quote:

Pandemoon said
7 thin feet of cactus led to 1.2g of alkaloids as HCl salt.




Bolding added by me


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26854367 - 07/30/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quality post OP :thumbup:

Ty!


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26854851 - 07/31/20 03:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, they were thin cuttings. It's roughly 200mg per cutting, and that's pretty much an average ammount. I cleaned it up with acetone also.
And remember it is the HCl salt, which is the most potent. With suphuric or citric acid the yield would be like 50% bigger, but also less potent.

350mg of that gave me a nice medium trip, with obvious visuals comparable to ~125mics of acid. So it's not 100% pure.
350mg of pure mescaline HCl should be a bit more powerfull I guess. :shrug:

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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Pandemoon]
    #28116304 - 12/29/22 12:39 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Cool tek, Pandemoon!

I want to try this with 100 grams of cactus powder. 

Can you please provide the quantities of water, citric acid, xylene, lye and HCL needed for extraction? 

I've heard that toluene is less smelly and less likely for form emulsion than xylene. If I use toluene, do I use the same amount of it as I would xylene?

Thanks for your (or anyone's) input.


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: Pandemoon]
    #28118363 - 12/31/22 04:04 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

There is an OLD writeup on the hive that used a garbage disposal as a juicer and no heat was applied as I recall. It has pics and all, I will try and find it for you. good job tho!


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Re: Mescaline extraction, from cactus to tan HCl powder [Re: tomcards]
    #28118375 - 12/31/22 05:05 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Hi,

I never used toluene, don't know if it extracts any cactus alkaloids. Not all solvents do, naphtha for example does not.

Ratios:
Enough water to boil the cactus.
Enough xylene to form a good layer of an inch or two ontop of the water. Doesn't matter much.
Lye, roughly 80 g per liter of water.
Citric acid is optional. Not too much, half a teaspoon per crockpot is more than enough. You don't really need it at all.
HCl, just a few drops!

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