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Syrian Rue extract usage
    #26807465 - 07/06/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi shroomers!
Im looking for advice on the best way to ingest syrian rue extract, as well as any other general tips people have on the subject.

This is my understanding so far.

Dose: equivalent of 3g raw seeds (ie 0.3g if using 10x extract)

Diet: low tyramine for 4 days prior

Timing: consume 45 mins prior to whatever you are potentiating ( ie cubes)

Ingestion method: ???

Do people make tea in a similar way to using raw syrian rue seeds? Ie simmer for 30 mins with some white vinegar or lemon juice. Are multiple washes then reductions nessisary? Do you strain through a coffee filter prior to consuming?


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Re: Syrian Rue extract usage [Re: rupi]
    #26809182 - 07/07/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly the best way is pill capsules. I use pure harmala though it still tastes horible though. I never tried 10x extract but I used to swallow the seeds and 3 tablespoons was a good dose. I swallow the raw seeds with a mild acid get yourself some lemonade or orange juice it will make it come on in 20 minutes. The stuff I use is so pure ive mixed it in a needle with 4-HO-DET. It still works if you shoot it at the same time. I aslo had only 70mg left one time and mixed a pill of 15mg 4-ACO-DMT and 20mg 4-HO-DET with the harmala HCL and it still works. Ayahuasca is done at the same time but I still prefer 10-20 minutes after harmala.


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    #26810684 - 07/08/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Syrian Rue extract usage [Re: TheEschatologist]
    #26810982 - 07/08/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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TheEschatologist said:Diet: 8 hours of no/low tyramine intake on either side should be more than enough. People exaggerate the dangers of RIMAs plus foods, although you can have a bad time if you eat/drink certain things at the exact same time as the rue.




To that i'd merely add that even 8 hours of avoidance is unnecessary, however it's a better timeframe than i've seen from others so that's a plus. I've found that gut MAO-A inhibition by Harmalas don't last for more than 2 hours after consuming the Harmalas, this is evidenced by the fact the if you take Harmalas, and then 2 or more hours later take DMT, the DMT will no longer be orally active, but within the first 2 hours of the Harmalas, gut MAO-A is inhibited and allows for DMT to be orally active. So what i would probably say is, if one would want to be on the "safe side" when it comes to Tyramine, even though there doesn't seem to really be much in the way of any Tyramine reactions, at least for most people, and i don't even think Tyramine is an issue at all with Harmalas, is to just avoid eating for like 4 to 6 hours beforehand, as to give your gut time to digest the food so that any Tyramine would be broken down as usual, and then take the Harmalas, and after the first 2 hours, it's fine to eat.

Personally, i've eaten a wide variety of things before, right after consuming (within the first two hours), and 4 to 6 to 8 to 10 hours after taking Harmalas, and never noticed any dietary issue at all, even when eating at the same time as the Harmalas. Although, because Harmalas are purgatives and can cause gut discomfort/stomach upset, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, it's probably not a good idea to eat right before or right after taking the Harmalas anyways, unless one's body is already used to the Harmalas at which point the purgative properties go away and one can eat just fine right before or right after the Harmalas. Still though, it's advisable to have an empty stomach when consuming Harmalas and DMT or mushrooms, as to make sure everything is properly digested and absorbed.


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    #26812102 - 07/09/20 05:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Syrian Rue extract usage [Re: TheEschatologist] * 1
    #26812123 - 07/09/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I woudn't buy any "10x extract". That's sketchy. You don't know how potent this extract really is.
Anecdotical evidence here in the boards shows that these extract are often bunk, or very weak.

Get either plain rue seeds, or pure isolated harmalas as freebase or HCl. It's all legal and available right via clearnet. Just google and order.

Or extract the harmalas yourself. It takes some time, but is very easy to do. All you need is cooking vinegar and washing soda. Just check out the link in my signature for more infos.

A kilo of rue is no more than 50 bucks, and you get roughly an ounce of pure harmalas out. That's like 200 full doses.

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