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Enkidu
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Dmt extraction 1
#26810918 - 07/08/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have 88g of powder MHRB in a glass jar
Going to add 600ml water
Then add 60g lye
Then add 100ml naptha or so before letting sit for a day and separating the naptha tomorrow
Should i add some vinegar and salt with the water or is it pointless? Was wondering if it might help break down the bark.
This look good to anyone experienced ?
Shout out to Northerner for all the help with dmt and to Pandemoon for clarification on how easy and simple this process can be
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26810978 - 07/08/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You can add salt, as it helps to push the alkaloids into the non-polar solvent. But it's not needed.
Vinegar is not needed at all. It would be counter-productive, as it fights and reacts with the lye. Both the acid from the vinegar and the base from the lye would neutralize each other.
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Enkidu
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Awesome, thanks man
I have 176g so im going to split it into 2 extractions
Ill try this one no salt and add salt for the next batch and see if i notice a difference,
Then ill be working with shredded bark next and not powder
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26811007 - 07/08/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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The only difference I noticed with using salt is that with salt it needs less pulls in total to get all the dmt out.
The yield should be identical. But you might need only two or three pulls, instead of four or five.
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Enkidu
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Gotcha, so really not a big deal
Ill try it out
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26812357 - 07/09/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should do another experiment - two jars; one where you first extract the DMT with three sessions of near-boiling vinegar water, reduced into one jar; then separate the steamed bark into another jar and proceed to add lye and pull from each. This could demonstrate how efficient an A/B is, or isn't, depending on how much DMT you're able to extract out of the spent, steamed bark.
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Icon]
#26813284 - 07/09/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe ill try with this bark i need to shred up.
Do you normally remove the bark for a/b? You want to see how efficient it is at removing the dmt before the extraction?
Was also wondering if it made a difference to have the dish in the freezer before i put my first pull into it or not
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26813319 - 07/09/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nevermind, read the answer to that question.
I guess ita better to leave the dish warm if doing multiple pulls to prevent the crystals from crashing out prematurely
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26813848 - 07/09/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Just did a pull but looks like nothing was even in it.
Looks super clear and not cloudy at all, i remember before as soon as it hit the glass it clouded up
Trying to precip off some naptha now
Might just put this first pull in the freezer and see if it produces anything and if not, recycle the naptha and try for some warm pulls
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26814414 - 07/10/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well i got some nice white crystals that formed but doesnt look like much is in there
Wondering if i should add some more lye to my solution and do a warm pull
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26814640 - 07/10/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Warm naphtha will pull more at once, but it will also pull more of the unwanted fats, oils, tannins. So the crystals will be more yellow. No bad thing, though, might be worth a try.
With my extractions, the second pull's yield is always bigger than the first.
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Hmm, maybe ill wait for this to finish in the freezer and re-use the naptha for another cold pull
See what i get and go from there
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26816574 - 07/11/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Every extraction I've ever done I've agitated the solution multiple times by stirring or turning over about half hour or so before pulling.
I'm not aware of any no stir/one stir tek that works effectively. Am I missing something here?
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Yeah i spent a good deal of time agitating it
Probably about 5 times over the course of a day
Maybe i didnt spend enough time, i do a figure 8 sort of motion
Once the naptha catches them, are they staying? Could you potentially swirl it around all day then let it sit a whole day and the dmt wont be released from the naptha back into the soup right?
Its been about 32 hours in the freezer, theres some crystals its just a real small yield, im guessing less than 100mg
im thinking about either removing it tonight or tomorrow morning then doing my second pull
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26816584 - 07/11/20 06:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I usually agitate it for about 5 minutes, let it sit 5 minutes, repeat.... Do that about 4 times then pull it.
Not sure why you're not getting a result man. Did you evap the solvent down a bit? Might help. That's a lot of solvent for such a small amount of bark.
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I need to get a more precise pipette
I set it out under a fan but not long
Figured 100 ml in my dish it would be pretty well spread out
I mixed it like 4 or 5 times over the course of a whole day. Ill try mixing it back to back then pulling
You do it warm or cold ?
You think i should try adding some salt?
Maybe this next pull will yield more
Ill just keep trying till i get it out
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
#26817638 - 07/11/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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I add salt, just to add a bit with the ionization. Dunno if it really helps. Chemistry says it should.
Heat can be a double edged sword and you need to use just the right amount if you are going to use it.
As you stirred properly a bunch of times that's probably not the issue.
I dunno hey. Maybe bunk bark. I should just come over and help you out mate.
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Everyone extracts dmt differently. You should read some teks, watch some videos then go for it. You'll end up doing things your own way like everyone else.
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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Shenmue]
#26817667 - 07/11/20 03:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here's a recent post with some videos and information. Who knows maybe it'll be helpful. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26790194/fpart/1/vc/1
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Quote:
Northerner said: I dunno hey. Maybe bunk bark. I should just come over and help you out mate.
Bahaha, hey anytime.
I might add some salt if this next pull doesnt produce
Could be the bark
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