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Socrateshroom
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Tea Questions
#26809132 - 07/07/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I had a pretty underwhelming 3g experience this weekend.
I now think it was because I used the steep method instead on boiling my mushrooms on the stove and I didn't extract the full amount of actives.
I have some mutants that I want to make tea from but I'm not always in a position to use my stove to boil em. Can I do the steep method and just consume the entire thing (i.e not throw out the mushrooms)? If there were to be, say bacteria on them (which I doubt because I dried them well), would the tea kill the bacteria allowing me to consume the plant material without problem?
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If youre going that route you might as well just eat them and drink the tea on the side
I wouldnt want to chow down some mushy shroom liquid concoction myself
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Re: Tea Questions [Re: Enkidu]
#26809163 - 07/07/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: If youre going that route you might as well just eat them and drink the tea on the side
I wouldnt want to chow down some mushy shroom liquid concoction myself
I've had mushy shroom tea with chucks before and I don't mind it. I'm asking specifically because I grew a batch that had a lot of mutants and was bacterial, so I wanted to be on the safe side.
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Why dont you just powder them and soak in everclear? One shot should be enough just stir it up with a toothpick for like 30 minutes and it will sterilize the hole thing. 99% of the 4-HO-DMT will be in the liquor but you can filter it or shoot the hole thing. I cant stand the taste of everclear though I enjoy it in soda. I used mountain dew all the flavors taste good original is my least favorite I prefer code red or voltage. Fanta is pretty good to my favorite is Fanta berry. Also faygo is amazing with alcohol. The first time I got sent to the ER for alcohol poisoning I was drinking everclear and soda I drank so much I passed out on the sidewalk. I only remember waking up in jail I was aslo on 400UG of 1P-LSD though. I thought I was invincible cause I had been drinking about a month.
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Hey Socrateshroom,
Decisions, brother, huh? If you can’t boil the tea, I personally wouldn’t bother. And I would agree with you that this was partly to blame for your underwhelming experience. Psilocin is safe up to about 270 Celsius, so boil the heck out of them. I’ll tell you my tea method (has worked perfectly for 35 years) and then I’ll give yo an alternative. I’m talking dry, but applies to fresh equally.
1. Cut up with scissors, or break dried mushrooms between fingers, into a pan. 1a. If yo want to get the biggest bang for your buck, and the most psychoactives bioavailable, then soak first in lemon juice, enough to soak. But be warned  2. Pour over boiling water. Turn on heat and bring back to the boil. 3. Turn down heat if you want; I boil rapidly for ONE MINUTE, stirring constantly (or mashing if fresh). 4. Turn down heat to minimum and steep for up to 10 minutes. 5. Trun off heat, allow to cool sufficiently to strain. You will want it cool enough to be able to give the cheese cloth, or other cloth, a really good squeeze. If you squeeze enough, the pulp will be dry and peel easily off the cloth, into the bin  6. Drink, sit back, and enjoy.
If you cannot boil the mushrooms, and you are considering drinking and eating the steeped tea; then why not instead do the lemon tek: soak the mushrooms in lemon juice for about 20 minutes, then drink nd eat the mushrooms. Much more intense than simply eating dried mushrooms. (For me personally, this is a bit too much like oysters and would make me retch).
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OGshroomHead said: Why dont you just powder them and soak in everclear? One shot should be enough just stir it up with a toothpick for like 30 minutes and it will sterilize the hole thing. 99% of the 4-HO-DMT will be in the liquor but you can filter it or shoot the hole thing. I cant stand the taste of everclear though I enjoy it in soda. I used mountain dew all the flavors taste good original is my least favorite I prefer code red or voltage. Fanta is pretty good to my favorite is Fanta berry. Also faygo is amazing with alcohol. The first time I got sent to the ER for alcohol poisoning I was drinking everclear and soda I drank so much I passed out on the sidewalk. I only remember waking up in jail I was aslo on 400UG of 1P-LSD though. I thought I was invincible cause I had been drinking about a month.
I don't consume alcohol and thus, this method will not work for me.
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Re: Tea Questions [Re: DJ Ed]
#26809265 - 07/07/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: Hey Socrateshroom,
Decisions, brother, huh? If you can’t boil the tea, I personally wouldn’t bother. And I would agree with you that this was partly to blame for your underwhelming experience. Psilocin is safe up to about 270 Celsius, so boil the heck out of them. I’ll tell you my tea method (has worked perfectly for 35 years) and then I’ll give yo an alternative. I’m talking dry, but applies to fresh equally.
1. Cut up with scissors, or break dried mushrooms between fingers, into a pan. 1a. If yo want to get the biggest bang for your buck, and the most psychoactives bioavailable, then soak first in lemon juice, enough to soak. But be warned  2. Pour over boiling water. Turn on heat and bring back to the boil. 3. Turn down heat if you want; I boil rapidly for ONE MINUTE, stirring constantly (or mashing if fresh). 4. Turn down heat to minimum and steep for up to 10 minutes. 5. Trun off heat, allow to cool sufficiently to strain. You will want it cool enough to be able to give the cheese cloth, or other cloth, a really good squeeze. If you squeeze enough, the pulp will be dry and peel easily off the cloth, into the bin  6. Drink, sit back, and enjoy.
If you cannot boil the mushrooms, and you are considering drinking and eating the steeped tea; then why not instead do the lemon tek: soak the mushrooms in lemon juice for about 20 minutes, then drink nd eat the mushrooms. Much more intense than simply eating dried mushrooms. (For me personally, this is a bit too much like oysters and would make me retch).
❤️ DJ Ed
Thanks! That method is nice and simple in its layout and I'll definitely use it next time I have the chance.
I have lemon-tekked in the past (and still do) but I have a batch that was full of mutants and the surface was bacterial so I'm looking to consume them in a way that can kill any possible bacteria on them.
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Boil
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Re: Tea Questions [Re: DJ Ed]
#26809309 - 07/07/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: Boil 
Yea, I'll keep that batch for when I can boil some tea and my other batches I'll consume as usual.
Thanks for the tea TEK
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To be fair, Socrateshroom, I can’t steal PrimalSoup’s thunder: the tea tek .
Take care DJ Ed
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Re: Tea Questions [Re: DJ Ed]
#26810034 - 07/07/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I definitely recommend primalsoups Tek above or Mushboy Making Shroom Tea
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