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Jinxmate
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Dub tub question
#26808161 - 07/07/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey people, Ive got 1 6L Shoebox and a 50L Tub, could I fill the shoebox with 3L of spawn and sub and do a hole in the lid with micro pore tape. When that colonizes fully could I just put sufficent holes in a 50L tub with tape and flip it over the 6L without lid or does the tub have to be the same size? Cheers any advice appreciated.
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Jinxmate]
#26808217 - 07/07/20 02:29 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why would you put holes in the 50 box and put it over the shoebox? And why would you want to do holes in the shoebox lid too? What's the purpose of this is what Im asking.
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Jinxmate
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Sorry im fried, Ive got 5 pf jars going
  Looking into fruiting for the next fortnight or whenever and Im planning on Pasteurizing 2-3L or coco coir and doing a shoebox tek. Hole in lid would be for colonization of the coir and when thats done id put the bigger box over for fruiting. Wondering if the fruiting box usually for a dubtub has to be same size or can I just chuck a bigger one on with holes to get the same result. I cant get another shoebox the same right now as store only had 1. Ill check in a week or so.
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Jinxmate]
#26808235 - 07/07/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There`s really no need to do this.
Shoeboxes have wobbly lids, just put them on, and place into growing conditions.
There are airgaps that allow enough GE, airflow is guaranteed.
With that much spawn you could do 3 shoeboxes, normally people do 1qt spawn a box. I also do 2qt sometimes.
You`ll go for about 2" sub in height, so when your cubes reach the lid, just unlatch, they`ll move it up. My lids are unlatched from the start. So neither dubbing needed, nor a tub in a tub.
Unless you have a big tub, where you can fit several boxes in.
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Goatrider]
#26808273 - 07/07/20 04:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow cheers bro if im understanding correctly this answers alot. Your saying I can just do the box about 5cm Deep in total substrate wait to colonize and just put in the bigger tub and flip that lid when ready for fruiting? I've just measured my shoebox 2inch depth at 2.55L so should I use all my jars adding up to about 1L and mix with 1.55L of coir or could I get away with making 2 at like 1:4 Ratio?
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Jinxmate]
#26808317 - 07/07/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It`s proven here to go directly into growing conditions. You set up, and change nothing til the flush.
Shoeboxes are easy, just set them up properly, and leave them alone. Only look for moisture as myc peeps through.
You have 3 litres spawn or 3 quart jars? This different measuring shit confuses all the time  I`m German, so i have to watch out when it comes to this 
But you should have a look here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24038695
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Goatrider]
#26808326 - 07/07/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just start out, these teks work for everyone.
You just may tweak a bit due to your environment, like humidity and temperature.
Won`t be perfect the first time, but you`re only learning by doing my friend
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Goatrider]
#26808349 - 07/07/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes this is why I wanted to understand you correctly before telling you that its all unnecessary
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Ok thanks alot guys ive got a good idea what todo now. I have 1L of spawn. (5x Half-Pint Jars that look good)
Half Pints I think about 1qt all up of spawn, I do different numbers but it all should translate to the equal measurement I am in Australia i think its metric we use L,ml,cm, m
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Re: Dub tub question [Re: Jinxmate]
#26808496 - 07/07/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dont overthink it . IF you have good clean spawn you can take it to 2x, 3x or more (I have done 4x with good spawn) the coir amount of that spawn. So for 2x, you have 1L spawn (myc) to 2L Coir (becomes 1+2=3 L together). If you are less sure about the myc you have then you can decrease coir to 1x the amount. So play somewhere between that 1x to 3x.
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Lol, shit hope I didnt make it more confusing. Just mix a decent amount thats all.
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Nah yea that makes sense its my first grow so im going with Spawn 1:1.5 , im unsure of quality of spawn but it looks good imo, Pic a few days old but best pic but they are getting a fair bit of that ropey rhizo growth

I recon after I put them into the tub ill colonize for a week before fruiting I know I could just flip but I want to but a hole with tape on it just for peace of mind, what would be better, bunch of little holes or a few big ones?
Edited by Jinxmate (07/07/20 08:37 AM)
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