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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: ChRnZN] * 1
    #26845499 - 07/26/20 06:30 AM (13 days, 16 hours ago)

Pics 1,2,4,5 in the last group of pics you posted are showing male flowers starting...especially pic 4(at the edge of your middle finger). You are going to want to remove those before they start throwing pollen, or your buds will be full of seeds.

The problem with growing seeds from a bag of weed is that it is almost always caused by hermaphrodite pollen. People don't usually keep males around who aren't breeding. Seeds produced from hermaphrodite pollen are much more likely to do the same, especially when stressed.


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: hummingbird] * 1
    #26845908 - 07/26/20 12:55 PM (13 days, 9 hours ago)

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Pics 1,2,4,5 in the last group of pics you posted are showing male flowers starting...especially pic 4(at the edge of your middle finger). You are going to want to remove those before they start throwing pollen, or your buds will be full of seeds.

The problem with growing seeds from a bag of weed is that it is almost always caused by hermaphrodite pollen. People don't usually keep males around who aren't breeding. Seeds produced from hermaphrodite pollen are much more likely to do the same, especially when stressed.




I see what you're talking about, they were there before he started flowering and why i thought it was a male.
I Don't have experience seeing herms from the veg stage. Also i thought herm plants is where they get the feminized seeds from?


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: hummingbird]
    #26846288 - 07/26/20 05:05 PM (13 days, 5 hours ago)

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Pics 1,2,4,5 in the last group of pics you posted are showing male flowers starting...especially pic 4(at the edge of your middle finger). You are going to want to remove those before they start throwing pollen, or your buds will be full of seeds.

The problem with growing seeds from a bag of weed is that it is almost always caused by hermaphrodite pollen. People don't usually keep males around who aren't breeding. Seeds produced from hermaphrodite pollen are much more likely to do the same, especially when stressed.




I was worried this may be the case, I’ve taken more images of some places.
I have some feminised seeds here I’ve bought I plan to grow And some cbd seeds also, I have a tent on order etc so better luck next time around I guess haha! Was a nice practice run.




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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: Spellbound] * 1
    #26846682 - 07/26/20 09:37 PM (13 days, 59 minutes ago)

Definitely male flowers in pic three(and 2,5,7). I would pull all of those off. You can get seedless buds from hermie plants if you stay on top of removing the male flowers before they open into the banana bunch looking pollen sacs that throw pollen everywhere.

@c12- Yeah. They usually chemically induce male flowers to form on a female branch to get fem seeds. I think colloidal silver is the most popular method for doing that.


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: hummingbird] * 1
    #26846753 - 07/26/20 10:13 PM (13 days, 23 minutes ago)

You should definitely look into training methods for next time! The SCROG method is my personal favorite,  it's a bit labor intensive if you have alot of plants but if it's only a couple it's really fun (SCROG stands for Screen Of Green)

Basically you put a firm screen about 12 inches above the plants (start training from a young age obviously) and once they reach the screen you carefully bend the plant over everywhere it pokes above the screen and you either fold or gently tie it to the screen so that every node gets the same light exposure and you get nothing but top buds (trim off all growth under the screen) it works extremely well when combined with topping and super cropping (super cropping is where you top one node and when 2 new nodes pop up you top both those to then get 4 new nodes to pop up and top those to get 8 new nodes and so on and so on)

I'm sure I didn't explain the SCROG very detailed but you can find better descriptions with pics online :thumbup:

If you stay on top of pinching off the Male flowers before they drop pollen you can avoid getting seedy weed but make sure to look very often and in depth so you dont miss any

For feminized seeds you spray a flowering branch with colloidal silver (make sure to not get it on ANY parts of the plant you intend to consume) and it produces the pollen sacs (dont know the scientific reasoning behind why it works) and since the pollen sacs are generated on a female you get female pollen thus female pollen plus females flower equals female seed basically, you do have to be careful because if I remember right the feminized pollen can still spread pretty easily and you could accidentally end up with seedy weed still (may be wrong on how easily the female pollen spreads, been a bit since I've feminised seeds)

A simple and reliable test to see if your lights are to hot is to hold your hand above your plants for a couple minutes and if your hand gets uncomfortably hot then your light may be to close, obviously a thermometer is ideal but the hand method works pretty damn well

Be careful with salt based nutrients used in soil less grows and hydro set ups because they can harm the microbes in soil

Consider looking into beneficial predatory  mites to like N. Californicus, andersonii, swirskii, etc the beneficial mites will eat the bad mites (spider mites, 2 spotted mites, russets, etc) and then you dont have to spray pesticides if you use beneficial bugs often enough, green lacewings are good for eating aphids and mites as well

Consider a PH probe for testing the PH of your water and the run off if you want to get super accurate and dialed in with your grows to make sure you dont get what's called "nutrient lock out" this happens when the growing mediums PH is to high or to low and it causes the plant to not be able to absorb the nutrients (like the nutrients are locked out of the plant)

- just wanted to share some tid bits I've learned, no harm meant, besides the hermies those plants are looking good especially for your first time!  :pipesmoke2:


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: Spellbound]
    #26847052 - 07/27/20 03:30 AM (12 days, 19 hours ago)

is she being blacked out for 12 hours consistently? make sure shes in total darkness


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: MadMuncher] * 1
    #26847420 - 07/27/20 10:56 AM (12 days, 11 hours ago)

Thanks for all replies!

Because it wasn’t planned I didn’t have a tent so light might be factor yes, but had those bits all the way so I’m not sure. Either way, my tent and extraction kit were shipped today, so the seeds I’m planting now will be in proper conditions, decided I enjoyed it so will do a proper grow, and the seeds I bought are feminised! :lol:

I have pulled as many male ‘bits’ off as I can spot, I’ll not kill it, first plant I grew after all so I will see what it does, Should be inside the tent within the week so long as no hold ups with shipping.

It’s good to know can still get some weed so I’ll check daily and try to remove any male bits I see, with some luck it’ll give me something!

Once the tent is here it’s two meters tall so I’ll be able to do better lighting also, however 600W burned it so I’ve left on 400W for now. Nice tip with the hand test for heat though makes sense!

Hadn’t thought about monitoring ph but I guess that’s something I can look into as I start this ‘proper’ grow soon thank you! So many other bits of kit we can buy for it all, maybe in time I’ll add more to it as I get better and learn! :awethumb:

It does seem to be very healthy, bar those leaves I burned because the light was too close, so that’s one boo boo I learned from during this dummy run :facepalm:

I must carry on after buying lights tents and fans though. I’d like to see a return on my investment hahahaha :smile:


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: Spellbound]
    #26849585 - 07/28/20 11:44 AM (11 days, 10 hours ago)

Right, tents up, fan tomorrow I’m goosed hahaha!




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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: Spellbound]
    #26850161 - 07/28/20 05:44 PM (11 days, 4 hours ago)

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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: LifeUnderAwno]
    #26852734 - 07/30/20 12:26 AM (9 days, 22 hours ago)

@dndrnd

Basically you put a firm screen about 12 inches above the plants (start training from a young age obviously) and once they reach the screen you carefully bend the plant over everywhere it pokes above the screen and you either fold or gently tie it to the screen so that every node gets the same light exposure and you get nothing but top buds (trim off all growth under the screen) it works extremely well when combined with topping and super cropping (super cropping is where you top one node and when 2 new nodes pop up you top both those to then get 4 new nodes to pop up and top those to get 8 new nodes and so on and so on)

Super cropping  is were you pinch the stem just enough to break the cambium then let it heal to make a knuckle , preferably multiple times up the branches as it grows , increases the xylem and phloem  space resulting in bigger buds and in certain phenos more even canopies,  What you described is just excessive topping or manifolding as some call it:cheers:


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: Marmie]
    #26853541 - 07/30/20 03:07 PM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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super cropping is where you top one node and when 2 new nodes pop up you top both those to then get 4 new nodes to pop up and top those to get 8 new nodes and so on and so on)

Super cropping  is were you pinch the stem just enough to break the cambium then let it heal to make a knuckle





"Super-cropping" refers to both of those different methods?


Seems like two totally different things to me :shrug: . One is causing damage to the stem and the idea is that it'll create a more robust xylem/phloem after it has healed. The other method is simply topping a plant which creates more "tops"/budsites. I've never heard of both of those techniques referred to as "super-cropping"....?...

Or is "super-cropping" just a generic blanket-term that covers many different types of techniques that increase the yield?





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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: openmind]
    #26853575 - 07/30/20 03:24 PM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

Sry was quoting dndrnd for the first paragraph,  super cropping is jst pinching the cambium , was jst correcting him


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Re: My first cannabis plant do you think it’s female? [Re: Marmie]
    #26856093 - 07/31/20 09:38 PM (8 days, 58 minutes ago)

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Marmie said:
Sry was quoting dndrnd for the first paragraph,  super cropping is jst pinching the cambium , was jst correcting him




Oh shit good catch!! My bad haha

Manifolding is where you create multiple budsites

Super cropping is when you bend the stem over to create bigger buds and a more robust/sturdy base


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