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OfflineIce9
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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26883134 - 08/16/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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HamHead said:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-excess-deaths-tally-in-the-us-is-204691-in-7-months-so-covid-19-deaths-might-be-undercounted-2020-08-13

"The data tell the story
It doesn’t take a sophisticated statistical model to see that the coronavirus pandemic is causing substantially more deaths than would have otherwise occurred.

The number of deaths the CDC officially attributed to COVID-19 in the United States exceeded 148,754 by Aug. 1. Some people who are skeptical about aspects of the coronavirus suggest these are deaths that would have occurred anyway, perhaps because COVID-19 is particularly deadly for the elderly. Others believe that, because the pandemic has changed life so drastically, the increase in COVID-19-related deaths is probably offset by decreases from other causes. But neither of these possibilities is true.

In fact, the number of excess deaths currently exceeds the number attributable to COVID-19 by more than 16,000 people in the U.S. What’s behind that discrepancy is not yet clear. COVID-19 deaths could be being undercounted, or the pandemic could also be causing increases in other types of death. It’s probably some of both."

Deaths of despair.

Suicide and overdoses are being largely ignored.

Yes, it has been mentioned, but people are so afraid of Covid, it doesn't register.




In early days of lockdown, highway fatalites were up in many states due to drivers using open roads to go significantly faster than normal. Pretty sure it doesn't equate to 17k extra though


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Re: @koods [Re: Ice9]
    #26883136 - 08/16/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There are covid deaths that aren’t counted. People who get sick and never see a doctor then die at home. People with covid decompensate pretty fast, so someone who doesn’t feel like they need to see a doctor can transition into a life threatening condition very quickly.


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead] * 2
    #26883795 - 08/16/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

As I have been saying months ago from the beginning, the reaction to Covid 19 will be more deadly than Covid 19


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26883833 - 08/16/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Well you were wrong then and you’re still wrong


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26883930 - 08/16/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

budmanman said:
As I have been saying months ago from the beginning, the reaction to Covid 19 will be more deadly than Covid 19



Quote:

koods said:
Well you were wrong then and you’re still wrong





https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/suicides-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-amid-school-lockdown-cdc-chief-warns

Oh, look, CDC chief. Will it be taken seriously?

"Suicide deaths higher than COVID-19 deaths amid lockdown, CDC chief warns
'We're seeing far greater suicides' and 'deaths from drug overdose' than deaths from COVID, and prolonged school closures may be more dangerous than coronavirus.

July 28, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Deaths from suicides and drug overdoses currently exceed deaths due to the COVID-19 virus, Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) director Dr. Robert Redfield warned during a medical presentation earlier this month.

“I think that the cost to our nation in continuing to keep these schools closed is substantial, and I’m hopeful that resources that are necessary can be made available,” Redfield said during a July 14 webinar hosted by the Buck Institute. “But there has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools.”

“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID,” he lamented. “We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID.”

Redfield went on to stress that this is why health must be viewed in light of the “overall social being of individuals,” which in this instance, he argued required working to “get these schools open in a way that people are comfortable and they’re safe.”

While the CDC chief did not explicitly link those deaths to state lockdowns and school closures, many have argued that the mental and emotional health risks of prolonged isolation would be as dangerous or more dangerous than the coronavirus itself in many cases, particularly among the young, for whom COVID-19 is less dangerous than for the elderly or immunocompromised.

In May, a group of more than 500 doctors wrote President Donald Trump to raise awareness of the “short, medium, and long-term harm to people’s health with a continued shutdown … The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse.”

The Trump administration has forcefully advocated that public schools reopen this fall. Yet despite the above concerns, and despite evidence that children and teachers would be at little-to-no risk, recent polls indicate that majorities remain wary of reopening.

The president’s supporters are also divided on the question, albeit for different reasons. While most conservatives and Republicans support reopening the economy and lifting lockdowns, many are also content to leave public schools dormant out of a desire not to send children back to classrooms where they will be fed radical sex-education lessons and biased, Black Lives Matter-fueled lessons on race and American history.

:shrug:

How about that?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26883948 - 08/16/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Why are ppl always arguing with koods?


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Re: @koods [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26883950 - 08/16/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

yeah why would u create a thread to argue with koods?


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26883956 - 08/16/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Bra, ur lyk triple woke bra.  Will U Marry m3?


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Re: @koods [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26883976 - 08/16/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Covid 19, be it from a lab or natural got weaponized by the Chinese, look at their data, you think that is real data? Fuck no lol they alerted the world to make people react to dominate industries, we are butt fucked by china now they will get a giant leap.


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Everything I have ever said is total bogus bs I am full of crud therefore everything I say should never be taken literal.

And I am mentally unstable.


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Re: @koods [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26883978 - 08/16/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
Why are ppl always arguing with koods?




Because no matter how much evidence I post, to koods, I'm wrong.

I'm simply defending my self and my opinions.

Right or wrong, is that not still my right? To defend my beliefs?

I think our planet is round and revolves around a sun. There was a time when this was thought to be wrong.

Debates have got to happen for truths to be.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26884132 - 08/17/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

HamHead said:
Quote:

budmanman said:
As I have been saying months ago from the beginning, the reaction to Covid 19 will be more deadly than Covid 19



Quote:

koods said:
Well you were wrong then and you’re still wrong





https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/suicides-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-amid-school-lockdown-cdc-chief-warns

Oh, look, CDC chief. Will it be taken seriously?

"Suicide deaths higher than COVID-19 deaths amid lockdown, CDC chief warns
'We're seeing far greater suicides' and 'deaths from drug overdose' than deaths from COVID, and prolonged school closures may be more dangerous than coronavirus.

July 28, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Deaths from suicides and drug overdoses currently exceed deaths due to the COVID-19 virus, Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) director Dr. Robert Redfield warned during a medical presentation earlier this month.

“I think that the cost to our nation in continuing to keep these schools closed is substantial, and I’m hopeful that resources that are necessary can be made available,” Redfield said during a July 14 webinar hosted by the Buck Institute. “But there has been another cost that we’ve seen, particularly in high schools.”

“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID,” he lamented. “We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose that are above excess that we had as background than we are seeing the deaths from COVID.”

Redfield went on to stress that this is why health must be viewed in light of the “overall social being of individuals,” which in this instance, he argued required working to “get these schools open in a way that people are comfortable and they’re safe.”

While the CDC chief did not explicitly link those deaths to state lockdowns and school closures, many have argued that the mental and emotional health risks of prolonged isolation would be as dangerous or more dangerous than the coronavirus itself in many cases, particularly among the young, for whom COVID-19 is less dangerous than for the elderly or immunocompromised.

In May, a group of more than 500 doctors wrote President Donald Trump to raise awareness of the “short, medium, and long-term harm to people’s health with a continued shutdown … The millions of casualties of a continued shutdown will be hiding in plain sight, but they will be called alcoholism, homelessness, suicide, heart attack, stroke, or kidney failure. In youths it will be called financial instability, unemployment, despair, drug addiction, unplanned pregnancies, poverty, and abuse.”

The Trump administration has forcefully advocated that public schools reopen this fall. Yet despite the above concerns, and despite evidence that children and teachers would be at little-to-no risk, recent polls indicate that majorities remain wary of reopening.

The president’s supporters are also divided on the question, albeit for different reasons. While most conservatives and Republicans support reopening the economy and lifting lockdowns, many are also content to leave public schools dormant out of a desire not to send children back to classrooms where they will be fed radical sex-education lessons and biased, Black Lives Matter-fueled lessons on race and American history.

:shrug:

How about that?




How about what? Redfield was talking about there being more suicides and drug overdoses among students.

Do you actually believe there have been 170,000 suicides and drug overdoses so far this year 🤦‍♂️


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26884195 - 08/17/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

i would


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Re: @koods [Re: cannabinated]
    #26884197 - 08/17/20 01:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

It may have changed, but suicide rates were sharply down in the first couple months


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26884221 - 08/17/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Oh look, we have a suicide pandemic now according to our government.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177120/


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And I am mentally unstable.


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26884228 - 08/17/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You are making assumptions about suicide rates during the pandemic that may not be accurate. I haven’t actually seen any national data about suicides, but I do know there are plenty of places where suicides are down this year.

https://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/MKE-Health1/COVID-19/MHDSuicidesIssueBrief8.11.20.pdf

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article242738356.html

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/23/colorado-suicides-dropped-coronavirus-pandemic-calls-to-crisis-line-spiked/amp/


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26884285 - 08/17/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
You are making assumptions about suicide rates during the pandemic that may not be accurate. I haven’t actually seen any national data about suicides, but I do know there are plenty of places where suicides are down this year.

https://city.milwaukee.gov/ImageLibrary/MKE-Health1/COVID-19/MHDSuicidesIssueBrief8.11.20.pdf

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article242738356.html

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/05/23/colorado-suicides-dropped-coronavirus-pandemic-calls-to-crisis-line-spiked/amp/




These are a little old, anything more up to date koods?


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26884465 - 08/17/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

One of them is from last week 🤦‍♂️


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26884471 - 08/17/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

budmanman said:
Oh look, we have a suicide pandemic now according to our government.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7177120/




That’s an opinion piece written by Indian researchers


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”


Edited by koods (08/17/20 09:05 AM)


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26884502 - 08/17/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I'm hella disappointed......nobody tried making fun of koods spelling error...


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Re: @koods [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #26884570 - 08/17/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

convincing the public that the pandemic is bad for mental health, i get for a lot of people it very uncertain and stressful... but its also worth a trillion dollars to some, to convince the corporate government to reopen.

i think its made some people better and some people worse

but people who were suffering from anxiety or depression before this probably enjoy the effects the coronavirus had

like urs truly


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