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How to get on the police's good side
    #26804766 - 07/05/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I found a way to make friends with the police, so that they leave you alone. It really works!

First you make a sign like this:



Hold the sign up outside a church.

When the church calls the cops on you, be polite and comply and leave the property. If they ask you what you're trying to accomplish, say you're trying to lead people to Jesus.

Don't ask me why this works, I think it has something to do with the social dynamics of existence in relation to perception of what is right. At any rate, it causes the police to respect you in ways unsurpassed by anything I have every seen. Try it! :wink:


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26804774 - 07/05/20 07:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Lol, nice work.

Im not trying to get on the good side of the police.

However if Paul was a self-appointed apostle and added unauthoritatively to what Jesus said is definitely a serious question i have pondered. This was so by the prompting of Muslims.

I came to the conclusion that Paul definitely did teach things which i think Jesus would have approved of and did say some things which were questionable. It is merely my speculation though.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: OOISI]
    #26804978 - 07/05/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Muslims do realize this. It's a good way to get on their good side too. There has been a realization of this fact among the messianic Jewish population that are honest with how they interpret scripture. There are very few that fully realize the implications of this, for the functioning of the family unit.

But yes, I saw a debate between a Muslim man and a Christian and the Muslim was proving that Paul was a deceiver and he won the debate. That's one redeeming qualities of muslims.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807388 - 07/06/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Muslims do realize this. It's a good way to get on their good side too. There has been a realization of this fact among the messianic Jewish population that are honest with how they interpret scripture. There are very few that fully realize the implications of this, for the functioning of the family unit.

But yes, I saw a debate between a Muslim man and a Christian and the Muslim was proving that Paul was a deceiver and he won the debate. That's one redeeming qualities of muslims.




EF Dawah?


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807418 - 07/06/20 04:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Only because doing that would make you look completely crazy and/or mentally disabled. They'd just be taking pity on you for being so crazy/mentally disabled.

Also that sign is some crazy bullshit. Who thinks this shit up? You'd have to be a total loon to do something like that. It's a good way to get known as the local schizophrenic by your whole community.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: nooneman]
    #26807512 - 07/06/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26807553 - 07/06/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Do you know what Jesus taught?


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807564 - 07/06/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I didn’t know the guy personally. But I know what books say about it.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26807584 - 07/06/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Whenever churches excercise authority over others or shun someone or judge someone, or extort money, or justify themselves in their greed and hate and hypocrisy they're not using those teachings, they're using the teachings of Paul. The teachings of Jesus aren't useful for those things.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807602 - 07/06/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Which book do you personally use to learn of the teachings ascribed to Jesus?


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26807617 - 07/06/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The Book of Matthew, King James version. Mark and John also, but to a lesser extent.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807628 - 07/06/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Dem Synoptics tho


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26807651 - 07/06/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What Jesus taught was so good that society demanded an alternative which was furnished to them by the apostle Paul, who gave them a more palatable way for the purposes of raising a family.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side (moved) [Re: Hartford]
    #26807663 - 07/06/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This thread was moved from Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.

Reason:
This is not a philosophical, but rather a religious-themed thread. Belongs here.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807669 - 07/06/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Not unheard of for a religion to start one way and later become more or less divided into esoteric & exoteric teachings.  Monasteries & temples more so keeping with the former, the rest (public/lay) the latter.

Happens.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26807706 - 07/06/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It could have been a thread about psychology, if people inquired about the social dynamics that lead a person to be treated badly for doing what's right and why that provokes sympathy by police officers. Maybe it will turn into that and I'll need to be moved again 😉


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26807858 - 07/06/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don’t understand this thread so I’ll just respond in a way as if I was driving by and saw what I see in the picture..

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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26807913 - 07/06/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:orly:


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26808059 - 07/06/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Dem Synoptics tho




John's gospel is not a synoptic, only Mark, Matthew, and Luke are. Synoptic means same view. The Johannine gospel was written way later, maybe 90-120 CE and it is the most popular but least Jewish. In the synoptics Iesous is considered to be 'a man anointed by God' but the Hellenistic John's gospel utilizes Hellenistic mythology by making Iesous a divine incarnation of God (the Logos), just as the Greeks made of their demigods like Heracles, Dionysos, or Perseus.

The Prologue of John, that "in the beginning was the Logos and the Logos was with God and the Logos was God" is misleading in English because the Greek word Logos has at least a dozen meanings and it was translated as "Word" which for many concrete-minded people is taken to mean the literal word. The Prologue means Pro-Logos, for the Logos. But I think this is where fundamentalist bibliolatry originates with the written word, the Bible, being considered the inerrant "word of God." In Islam it is not Muhammed who is considered to be the living 'word of God' but the actual physical book of The Qur'an.

Many Christians color the synoptic gospels with the Johannine gospel which is very Hellenistic. The synoptics retain their Jewishness. 1st century Jews comprised most of the Christians because the Johannine gospel rife with Greek mythic notions of a divine incarnation had not yet been written. In Judaism God does not impregnate mortal women to create God-men, this is Greek myth. When the Johannine gospel began to dominate the Gentile Christians, they lost most of the Jewish Christian support. Ebionite Jews and other Jewish Christian sects broke away from the "fully God, fully man" theology that followed the idea of Iesous being a divine Incarnation. The Jewish Messiah was never a Greek-type demigod but a man anointed by God like a king and hence 'a' son of God, NOT some haploid, parthenogenic Son of God.


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Re: How to get on the police's good side [Re: Hartford]
    #26808092 - 07/06/20 11:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Whenever churches excercise authority over others or shun someone or judge someone, or extort money, or justify themselves in their greed and hate and hypocrisy they're not using those teachings, they're using the teachings of Paul. The teachings of Jesus aren't useful for those things.




Not entirely true. The Book of Revelations is Johannine and it has Iesous as a  mythic white-haired being with a two-edge sword protruding from his mouth judging humanity. Judgement over mercy does come from Pauline misunderstanding of the 'End Times' which he thought was immanent and discouraged marriage for example because soon the world as they knew it would end. Every letter attributed to Paul was not actually penned by the same man or else he had multiple personalities! One cannot have the Paul of Galatians speaking of a transcendentally-based egalitarianism, “There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus,” and a Paul in Ephesians 5:22-24 saying, "Wives, obey your husbands as you obey the Lord. The husband is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church people. The church is his body and he saved it. Wives should obey their husbands in everything, just as the church people obey Christ." I call bullshit on the latter attitude of just more patriarchal oppression of women.

Ephesians is one of several book that are called Deutero-Pauline because their authorship by Paul AKA Saul of Tarsus is philosophically and stylistically opposite the accepted letters of Paul. It was common in earlier centuries to write under the appropriated name of someone famous to bolster credibility. In Acts 17:34 we meet a convert named Dionysius who belonged to the court of Athens, the Areopagus and is referred to as Dionysius the Areopagite. This was the 1st century but in the 5th-6th century a Christian mystic appropriated the name Dionysius the Arepoagite and wrote a few Christian Neo-Platonic treatises in that name. They are interesting books (e.g., The Mystical Theology, The Celestial Hierarchy and Divine Names). Later in history this author becomes known as Pseudo-Dionysius or even St. Denis.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/deutero-pauline-literature


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