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DJ Ed
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My first micro dose
#26804902 - 07/05/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took my first micro dose just over 2 hours ago.
I haven’t been able to trip well during lockdown, and haven’t had a trip at all in over 6 weeks. So I thought what the heck, try microdosing for a few weeks.
So here’s the rub. I’ve never eaten a psychedlic mushroom before in my life. This was the first time. Just dried it last night,msnapped off a 0.2g stalk, and chewed that. It got stuck in my teeth, got stuck in my teeth, more bits in my teeth,mthen the taste hit me, and yes people I get it now, mushrooms taste absolutely vile.
And within minutes, it felt like I’d been punched in the solar plexus. Now I have an underlying deep felt nausea that is horrible. Also I’m getting hearts-burn, so have just taken two Rennies.
But then, I thought you weren’t supposed to feel a micro dose? I can definitely feel it. I don’t know if it’s because I’m so experienced with mushrooms - 35 years - or what, but I can feel physical differences. And From now I feel, I reckon this strain will give a high body load and a racy feeling in the chest. I feel almost stoned, nd something really subtle is going on with my vision. The strin is Red Boy cubensis, and the mushrooms looked very healthy, very big, and very firm. And 90% water so a good grow. So maybe I have a strong flush too. But come on, 0.2g! My scales are accurate to 0.1g so I do suppose that 0.2g could be anything from 0.15g to 0.24g, but all the same.
Not sure if I’ll have another micro dose tomorrow. What this has done is to rekindle my desire for a full blown trip 
Take care all DJ Ed
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26804952 - 07/05/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't have expected any such results from 0.2 grams either. Perhaps next doses will not be so anymore... or you really do have some really mean mushies lol
I wish there was some easy way to determine levels of the active ingredients...
Perhaps the best way is to actually do an extract and dose on that ? It should be way more consistent that way.
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I did think about ordering one of those capsule machines yesterday. I started looking into capsule sizes and trying to work out what I’d need to get -.2g capsules. Most people seem to talk about “00” capsules, which you could cram 0.4g - 0.5g into! And then I’d need a coffee grinder to make the powder. And because I have loads of dried stocks I thought what the heck, take a bag out of the fridge and snp off a 0.2g chunk each day.
Could do without the stomach feelings though. I can’t imagine eating a macro-dose of dried or even fresh mushrooms. I think I would be one of those who particulalrly suffers! Fortunately I’ve always taken tea, or lemon tek tea,so never any stomach problems 
I’m almost at three hours now and I definitely feel stoned. I have Hallucinogen _Twisted playing in low volume in the background, and it sounds pretty damned chilled. So back to my original comment, this microdose is making me want a macro dose 
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26805800 - 07/05/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That’s so interesting that you have had 35 years experience with mushrooms but never actually eaten one. I know exactly the feeling you’re talking about because I tried my first microdose of .3 yesterday and it was great, very little stomach discomfort, great body euphoria. Definitely will be microdosing more often
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: CrashTest]
#26806079 - 07/06/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I’m already having second thoughts. I felt sick but mainly nauseous all day! And I felt pretty stoned too. Music sounded really chilled, and I did end up a bit giggly too. Must have been a potent 0.2g stalk!
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806118 - 07/06/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Gonna try another 0.2grams, or perhaps less ? Or jump straight into a proper dose ? :P
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806169 - 07/06/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Where did you get them from? It's possible they're contaminated with something, bacteria etc. 0.2 grams shouldn't have you feeling that much nausea. That's maybe enough to feel something, but not like what you described. Wait, are these cubensis we're talking about, or a different species?
Also, you've been here 4 years and have never tried mushrooms?! Dude, you HAVE to try 3.5 dry grams (of cubensis). Maybe from a different batch or something, but still. Mushrooms are as good as LSD, but in a completely different direction. Aside from LSD, they're by far the best psychedelic I've ever tried. They're so far above other psychedelics that it's crazy. You have to try them for real.
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: nooneman]
#26806269 - 07/06/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No buddy, I’ve been on here 4 years, but taking mushrooms for 35. I have never eaten a mushroom until yesterday! Always tea.
I grew them myself, so definitely no contam. Every flush has produced really big fruits; 20g caps! So they must be potent if large fruit are that strong. They’re cubensis Red Boy. Apparently red becaus they drop red spores. Looks more orange brown to me, but hence the name. ]i think my next move is a proper dose, of red boy, in a tea. Don’t want to feel space out when I’m trying to work; it’s bad enough sat at ho,e in my bedroom alone, never mind stoned too lol.
Take care DJ Ed
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806291 - 07/06/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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All this thing with "You shouldn't feel a microdose" is very misleading. I, personally, feel it distinctly. Including stages as come up, peak. Though in the beginning indeed it was hard to notice if it's doing something or not. But then you become sensitized and voila. At least this is my experience.
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I've only md'd once. I too, have had an similar experience (stronger than I thought it was going to be). I did a .2 dose before work with orange juice before I even ate breakfast. Now, this was where I was kind of dumb with it. I did it before work (we all do silly things once and hopefully learn from it). But.. when I got to work I felt out of it.
I walked in and looked as at my boss and coworkers and I felt like a sense of guilt. Like I should not be at work. Which then gave me this weird feeling of anxiety which made the mushrooms feel a bit more off-putting.
I couldn't believe the effects I was getting off .2 - I'm used to taking 3g+ and I thought a .2 would have been close to remotely nothing. But it definitely was there with me for a few hours. It wasn't bad per say, but being at work during that was not ideal.
If I were.to MD again, I'd make it on a weekend. But.. i just had myself a (smaller) end dose of about 1.6g/2G of cubes and had a DELIGHTFUL experience. I may start taking smaller end doses mlre frequently.
Try mding again with the same amount and see what happens. You'll have to calculate and tune yourself in with stuff like that. It does take a few weeks to dial in something of such. I bought one of those capsule machines as well just haven't used it yet!
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Glad you tried it DJ Ed. I still like to micro dose every now and then but no longer on a regimen.
What you had sounds a little more potent than usual but I agree with the above that there is a misconception that you don't feel a microdose. Perhaps if you take 0.1g or even less, you may not feel much. But in all of my experiments with microdosing I've never had a dose I didn't feel.
Even at 0.1g I can feel the change. It's slight but I feel my ego is quieter and my body feels more tuned with my surroundings.
At 0.2g I start getting butterflies in my stomach, reminiscent of the come up of the full trip. Feels more intense than 0.1g and, if the batch is stronger, I can start to feel slightly "stoned" but nothing that impairs me in any way (it actually enhances my abilities).
At 0.3g-0.4g it feels more intense than 0.2g and the feeling can start to become sedating instead of awakening.
At 0.5g and above, unless it's a particularly weak batch, I start to feel like I'm on a mini trip. It's not good for going to work. I had 0.5g of APEs at work once (during the pandemic so we were closed and I was alone at work) and I had my mind blown. Obviously APEs are much stronger but it was still unexpected. Anyway, the point being, anything above 0.4g, even for regular cubes, is too much for me and I usually want to crawl into bed and be with my thoughts or in the middle of the woods, not at work or needing to be alert.
But it's exactly as you've said, a micro-dose revitalizes your want for a full dose. That's mainly why I micro-dose here and there. Because I want to have an experience but may not have the opportunity to have a full on experience and I want to be reminded about how much I love mushrooms.
Also, in my experience, nausea at such a low dose in uncommon. If you try again, try without food if you had food or with food if you did it on an empty stomach. I find that food doesn't impede on a micro-dose the same way it does on a regular dose.
Also, I'd suggest not doing it on consecutive days. Take a day or two off before dosing again.
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Vibe! how's it been! Hope you've been holding up well during this pandemic.
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: If I were.to MD again, I'd make it on a weekend. But.. i just had myself a (smaller) end dose of about 1.6g/2G of cubes and had a DELIGHTFUL experience. I may start taking smaller end doses more frequently.
Glad to hear! Low doses are fun and a great way to connect with friends/nature. I'm in the opposite boat. I've played around with 1.5-3g doses too much and really want to get back to the psychedelic meat of things. My 3g dose two days ago was, unfortunately, much weaker than I had anticipated. I'm planning on taking big doses more frequently. Looks like we're changing positions I need to start taking your patented 4-4.5g doses
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Yeah, sounds pretty typical for a .2. I react similar to this dose, I can clearly tell that something is going on, I have a mild bodyload and enhanced emotions. Even very mild visuals appear if I stare at one point for longer than a second. It lifts my mood and makes the day more pleasant.
Just don't take this dose before you go to bed. Because for me it is enough to keep me awake for like 5 hours. Made this mistake several times. 
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Socrateshroom said: Vibe! how's it been! Hope you've been holding up well during this pandemic.
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: If I were.to MD again, I'd make it on a weekend. But.. i just had myself a (smaller) end dose of about 1.6g/2G of cubes and had a DELIGHTFUL experience. I may start taking smaller end doses more frequently.
Glad to hear! Low doses are fun and a great way to connect with friends/nature. I'm in the opposite boat. I've played around with 1.5-3g doses too much and really want to get back to the psychedelic meat of things. My 3g dose two days ago was, unfortunately, much weaker than I had anticipated. I'm planning on taking big doses more frequently. Looks like we're changing positions I need to start taking your patented 4-4.5g doses
Things have been going well brother! Have been busy actually. Things are still weird here but I'm getting by. Hope you've been doing well also!
It's nice to hear you're setting yourself up to take a bigger leap. I do like how we have switched roles on that haha. I guess it depends on what I'm doing. I took that lower end dose camping and my buddy and I went on a hike and it was quite amazing.
The mushrooms still found a way to make things a little dark. I remember hiking and I was on like autopilot where I was so in my head that when I realized I was daydreaming for those 3 mins or whatever that I tuned back into the fact I was actually hiking. I just had a deep thought about money. I pictured an old dying man (I think it was me).. and hundreds and of thousands of dollars sitting at the end of their feet on their hospital bed.. And it burned this image into my head. It was very odd. But there was so much behind it.
Mushrooms just have ways of sneaking in and throwing curve balls at you, when you least expect it. Haha. Its been awhile since I've taken a bigger end dose. Couple months actually. My last experience was very difficult, just do to a lot of things going on in my head lately. The mushrooms really dropped my guard and gave it to me. I needed it, but it wasn't pleasant and steered me away from taking them for awhile.
It took a lot for me to eat that 1.5g end dose camping (first time taking them again in several months).. and it showed me how beautiful they can be once again. They're so unpredictable, which makes them so utterly scary beautiful.
I hope you have yourself an AMAZING experience on one of your higher end dlses brother. Which I'm sure you will - and I look forward to reading a report!
Edited by Vibe_Enthusiast (07/06/20 10:04 AM)
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It’s nice to hear from you all. I think another MD would be a weekend affair, I need my faculties at work. And 10 to 11 hours a day in my “home office” (crappy desk in a dark hot bedroom, view of my street, and grey clouds) has become so tedious with nobody to talk to, that I wouldn’t need any encouragement to “drift off”
And Socrateshroom, sorry to hear your trip was hampered by weak mushrooms; they’re the worst!
❤️ DJ Ed
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806732 - 07/06/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: It’s nice to hear from you all. I think another MD would be a weekend affair, I need my faculties at work. And 10 to 11 hours a day in my “home office” (crappy desk in a dark hot bedroom, view of my street, and grey clouds) has become so tedious with nobody to talk to, that I wouldn’t need any encouragement to “drift off”
And Socrateshroom, sorry to hear your trip was hampered by weak mushrooms; they’re the worst!
❤️ DJ Ed
No need to apologize, I think the mushrooms gave me a "weak" trip on purpose. They want to get me out of my comfort zone and to take a larger dose next time. I always talk about how I want a stronger trip, something with real depth and even difficult but I always stick to 3g doses as my "top" end. I have 3.5g capsules of a strong batch set aside that I had been avoiding. I'm going to take that or 2+g of my APEs.
I actually ended up smoking a boatload of weed that night and had a strange experience nonetheless. So I'm happy with it, even though I didn't speak to aliens
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You might be building this up more than it needs; these days I’ve been having really intense and not very enjoyable trips from sometimes less than 3g dry. Only a few years back, my go to dose was a minimum 5g dry. And they were no more scary, but they were certainly much “madder” and very intense. Faster come up, really strong waves, faster and faster “organic tunnels” pulling you in. I found it easier to handle because you were straight into the madness rather than building up for hours.
I hope you’re pleasantly surprised  DJ Ed
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806923 - 07/06/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh man. Here's my analogy.
Low dose of mushrooms is like going to the airport but never leaving the parking lot. Medium dose is like going through security checks and waiting for a plane that never arrives. There is plenty to learn and see here.
High dose, you go through security check and have a short overlay with the come up. You get called onboard and strap in for a trip. Mini vacation.
The most I have done is 8g but that had me pacing in another realm infront of a portal somewhere in the cosmos. Bizarre.
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Re: My first micro dose [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806932 - 07/06/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: You might be building this up more than it needs; these days I’ve been having really intense and not very enjoyable trips from sometimes less than 3g dry. Only a few years back, my go to dose was a minimum 5g dry. And they were no more scary, but they were certainly much “madder” and very intense. Faster come up, really strong waves, faster and faster “organic tunnels” pulling you in. I found it easier to handle because you were straight into the madness rather than building up for hours.
I hope you’re pleasantly surprised  DJ Ed
I might be. I know one of the things I had to come to terms with when I started tripping was my expectations. And maybe I need to temper those now as well. I guess I'm just yearning for some of that madness.
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I thought this was a different thread...
Dj you really never had eaten a mushroom? Wtf?? Mind blown...yeah the taste. Just eat your medicine.
I've been harvesting the past 2 weeks and I accidentally knocked a tiny mushroom down. It was no bigger than the tip knuckle on my pinky finger. It wasn't thick. I didn't weight it as it was soo tiny. Well I ate it and 30min. later I felt anxious and weird. I never would have thought that tiny thing would make me feel anything but there I was with a toe in the water. Strange happenings.
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