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Build out plan for basement production
    #26804529 - 07/05/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi folks.

I have a basement with three rooms.

Planned lab space is ~8'x10'
Incubation space is ~12'x12'
Fruiting space is ~12'x10'

Questions I currently have are:

General:
Is one pressure cooker (21-23 qt) enough to make this work?  Two?

Incubation:
-Mason jars vs spawn bags?
-Will humidity in the room be quite high (I have laminate flooring down)?
-Will it need heating or will the mycelium be enough?
-Should I be using totes for making larger mycelium mats (see fruiting ideas)?
-Plan on using a 4" exhaust fan on negative pressure to manage CO2 levels for safety.

Fruiting:
-If the entire space is wrapped in poly and i use a larger built out humidifier, do I need totes at all, or can i just lay mycelium lats down on some black poly (related to incubation question)?
-Required lumens per square foot?  If I have racks with three levels, would led light strips be best on each level?
-Size of humidifier?  Does a 12 disk ultrasonic humidifier be sufficient if an exhaust fan (8"?) is running for 1-2 total exchanges every 5 min?
-Does this sound like room much space if I'm just using one or two pressure cookers and then pasteurizing in a tote connected to a pressure cooker (Willy Myco Tek)?

Thanks for any input. 
Most of the comments and design plans I'vefound are for smaller closet style builds.  I'd like to produce more than that and I'm trying to find a practical and relatively cost effective approach.

Mush Love.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26804569 - 07/05/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

ha one pressure cooker. Maybe you should start a little smaller and get a system down before going all in on something that you obviously have not researched all that well.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Spirit-Crusher]
    #26804600 - 07/05/20 04:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

All I can say is. Yes 21-23qt PC can fill all that space with tonnage of mushrooms.

Before you start diving headfirst, the only thing I wanna advise you of is MASTER YOUR AGAR skills.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Spirit-Crusher]
    #26804605 - 07/05/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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ha one pressure cooker. Maybe you should start a little smaller and get a system down before going all in on something that you obviously have not researched all that well.





:whathesaid: Seriously, what you're talking about building and to the extent that you're talking about is easily a several thousand dollar project...take 6-9 months first and run through a bunch of tubs and learn your craft


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
    #26804610 - 07/05/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Whats your experience level on shrooms anyways?


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: redhandmat]
    #26804690 - 07/05/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Don't even bother building a space until you do really good at growing mushrooms out of your kitchen and living room


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Spirit-Crusher]
    #26805174 - 07/05/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm totally open to ramping the space up.  I'm here looking for guidance more than mockery though.  I'll take that as a no then.
Thanks for the response.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
    #26805192 - 07/05/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm aware of this.  I can ramp up production slowly.  The planned fruiting rom is currently being utilized for cannabis cutting production.  I'e got a budget of ~20k if needed but would like to manage costs reasonably. 

If you guys are suggesting phased approach, then perhaps dividing the planned incubation room in half?

I'm a scientist with a strong biological background. I haven't produced mushrooms before, but tend to pick up on things fairly quickly.  I understand that there will be growing pains and fails along the way.  I've got extensive experience in indoor cannabis production on a fairly high tech scale.  I understand climatic control etc. 

Based on what you're saying, I should use tubs.  I was watching a Willie Myco video and when he was talking about a tenth build, he suggested that you could take the whole mycelial mat and lay it out on the rack. 

To me, it's appealing as buying 100 totes seems crazy and I thought there must be a better way. However, contamination on a mat (pardon my terminology) in an open area seems like it could trash the whole fruit room.

Thanks for your concern man.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: pablokabute]
    #26805200 - 07/05/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks.  Yes, the agar skills are a key component of this.  I'm pricing out a laminar flow hood tomorrow and then determining whether to buy or build.  I figure I can build out the lab first and then sort that out before moving to the incubation space.

So you're saying that one 21-23 qt pressure cooker will so enough spawn grain to support that space on a consistent cycle?  It'd be nice to be not running a PC all day every day.  I intended on using if for pasteurization  as well.

Cheers.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin] * 1
    #26805209 - 07/05/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Don't pay attention to anything Willie myc has to say about cultivation. Bod wasn't mocking you he was giving good advice. Run some tubs before you get carried away, you don't even need a special space to grow many pounds of cubes, all you need is a bedroom.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805219 - 07/05/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms, I pick outside and have consumed a lot.

As mentioned earlier, I'm a scientist not a myclologist), with extensive experience cultivating indoor cannabis.

Yes its a big move, yes there will be fails. 

Looking for information and support everywhere. 
This build isn't going into full swing tomorrow, but I'm interested in doing something more than a tote in my closet.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26805230 - 07/05/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the feedback. 

This doesn't all need to happen at once, so any advice on phasing in production would be awesome. I have a good friend that has been producing ~5lb a week for the last 20 years.  He's just so busy that I can't get in to see him and have a look. 

As i suggested earlier, I can pause in production and divide my incubation room in half and do everything in there.  I just sense a challenge in managing temps in the same room and keeping the ~10 degree spread.  I thought a separate space would be more efficient and have two separate exhausts running to manage CO2 and heat.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805235 - 07/05/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks.

Any advice is welcome.  I'm coming into this humbly but nonetheless ambitiously.
So a buildout on the lab space first and divide the incubation room up?  Maybe insulate a closet and incubate in there and then fruit in the rest of the space?  That way my partner can keep the clone space going.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805239 - 07/05/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Do whatever you want but if you're asking the kind of questions posted here you likely won't be able to even pull off a single tub. Mock the tub system all you like but there are cultivators on this site who grow 100s of pounds in tubs in no special space other than a room that will house them and maintain temperature.

Plant cultivation skills have zero correlation to mush cultivation, you might as well say that you're an experienced shoe shiner and you just know that as a result you'll be pulling of an industrial grow in no time:shrug:

You started this thread for advice and received the same advice from multiple people including a moderator who is also a trusted cultivator. Sounds like you don't like the advice so go ahead and do it your own way like every noob that ever noobed and you'll find out for yourself, it's the best way to learn anyways.

Edit* You may be an intelligent guy, you may have a knack for sterile technique and have some lab experience that will have overlap, that being said you have to develop an entirely unique set of skills that require experience and failure to hone. You may have the most expensive facilities and the nicest gear but they won't tell you when to increase or decrease FAE,nor will you know when your plates or grains are ready for expansion while being certain that there aren't any hidden contamination. There are so many different skills that need to be developed that it's just not reasonable to pursue such a large project without having developed that sense that comes from exposure to these experiences.

Now if you had of said "hey, I grow gourmet's and would love to get into large scale production of actives" well that would be entirely different for obvious reasons. Coming in here claiming to be something as painfully vague as a "scientist" while asking to be spoon fed the wealth of knowledge required to be an effective cultivator... for an average noob it's typical however for a "scientist"....well it's lame.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805280 - 07/05/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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So you're saying that one 21-23 qt pressure cooker will so enough spawn grain to support that space on a consistent cycle?  It'd be nice to be not running a PC all day every day.  I intended on using if for pasteurization  as well.

Cheers.




You'll want a lot more sterilizer space and some way to control them automatically. I've seen builds for Raspberry Pi DIY controllers on the gourmet boards for both Prestos (via hotplate) and 55 gal low pressure drum sterilizers as well as prebuilt drum sterilizers for sale online. Roger Rabbit has blueprints as well on his website. Many people here use All American 75x's plugged into a digital timer which in my opinion is the simplest solution albeit lower capacity than a drum.
I'd recommend hitting up Youtube and checking out some of the small scale commercial gourmet  growers that have channels on there. You can see the different ways people do things as well as what's pretty standard.

As for the skepticism from initial posters... The mush cult board is full of newbies trying to run before they walk so folks are wary. It might be better to ask build questions on the gourmet board because of that. That being said Bod has a great point in that it's best to start with just a few tubs at first.
You seem a lot more serious than a regular newbie so I'm sure you'll meet your goals after not too long.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #26805291 - 07/05/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Lol, all of that and he hasn't even surpassed the "hey is this blue spot on my cake contamination?" Phase yet. Much lelz.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805303 - 07/05/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm yes no one is mocking you mate, and no one wants you to fail just for the hell of it. We have nothing to win by you losing or the other way around. I think that it is a sound strategy to have a few growth under your belt before going all in, and Im a total noob. Actually, when I was writing my original comment (before you gave any info on your cannabis experience) I started describing how I had some experience with cannabis grows but then I didn't want to say much before hearing on your experience level first. What I wanted to say was that I too had some thoughts that it would be like weed. But its not. Its truly not.

One, and maybe more, of the guys replying to you in this threads have hundreds if not more grows and are giving you some really good advice. You can still grow a lot of mushrooms without taking to the scale you are thinking about. You can grow from prints to spawning to shoeboxes or monos within 2 months. As an example this is a nice thread on how to run 9-10 set and forget shoeboxes that dont take much space and weekly harvests (SFF Factory Tek). Seems to my noob self to be a good way to get a feeling on running an operation like thins and get some needed experience under your belt.

But dude, to be frank I think you should take the humble road and listen to people that know so you may learn. Would suck for you to post here and be like: all my tubs are dead, what to do?


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805316 - 07/05/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Plant cultivation skills have zero correlation to mush cultivation



So true.  Plant kingdom - fungi kingdom... split down two paths of nominclature from the first tier of classification.  Like raising a dog and raising a python.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805322 - 07/05/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Man,

I'm not upset or mocking anything.  I have basic lab skills and understand that science behind mushroom cultivation.  I do not claim to be a know it all.  I'm happy to start with a few tubs and go from there.  I'm well aware that mushroom cultivation and cannabis cultivation are completely different. 

The advice I'm getting is of course valuable, and helpful for me.  I'm in early planning stages of this project, and have time to work on it.  I'm and environmental scientist that has working in biological field for 13 years.  I"m not telling you this because I think I'm a know it all, I"m doing this to provide you with some background of my skill set.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805325 - 07/05/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Lol, all of that and he hasn't even surpassed the "hey is this blue spot on my cake contamination?" Phase yet. Much lelz.




A lot of the Youtube channels I mentioned went from no farming experience to making a living growing gourmet in less than a year. Just because there's 100 overambitious noobs on here a day doesn't mean there aren't serious beginners either. It's better to steer people towards knowledge and give sound advice rather than mock them. Just makes the Shroomery look bad, in my foolish opinion.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #26805337 - 07/05/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you veryy much for this thoughtful response. 
I've watched a lot of the gourmet production vids on youtube as well and have seen the 55 gallon sterilizer.  I do like the information on the All American plug in PC and will look into starting with that and ramping up after I smooth out the hiccups. 

I'm dine walking first and know that Bod is well respected here.  I'm not ignoring the responses, however some seem a bit on the snarky side.  All good, I'm a big boy and can take  bit of abuse. 

Based on what I"m hearing, I'll leave the proposed fruit room alone and split my incubation space into two.  Any thoughts on managing the temp and humidity based on the different requirements?  I'd like to get around having to fan my totes three times a day.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805338 - 07/05/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Either bruising or contam.  Swab to see if spores stick.  I"m not claiming to be anything here... just looking for knowledge.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805340 - 07/05/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Roger. Well this is the place to be for learning cultivation, I didn't intend to take over this thread so my apologies. Just read through the teks by trusted cultivators on this site, read through the comments and get some tubs or shoeboxes going. When you can consistantly pull a quarter pound dry first flush from a tub then you will have learned enough to start fucking with autoclaves, PID controllers and large humidified grow spaces for fruiting. You'll probably decide that stacking a bunch of tubs in a room will get you what you're looking for though.

My bad, I didn't realize what I've said has brought shame upon the shroomery, lol.

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It's better to steer people towards knowledge and give sound advice




I was pretty sure this is what I was doing:shrug:


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805341 - 07/05/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey Man,

I'm not upset or mocking anything.  I have basic lab skills and understand that science behind mushroom cultivation.  I do not claim to be a know it all.  I'm happy to start with a few tubs and go from there.  I'm well aware that mushroom cultivation and cannabis cultivation are completely different. 

The advice I'm getting is of course valuable, and helpful for me.  I'm in early planning stages of this project, and have time to work on it.  I'm and environmental scientist that has working in biological field for 13 years.  I"m not telling you this because I think I'm a know it all, I"m doing this to provide you with some background of my skill set.



You're in for a long ride.  All of us on this site are smart... we are the nectar of the cannabis community, moved on to mushrooms (some of us at least).  Mushrooms will weed out all the wannabe's and dumbasses of the cannabis field. 

We all wouldn't be here if we haven't fucked up a thousand times.  Blood, sweat, and tears in the beginning.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26805345 - 07/05/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man....

I'm not sure why people think that I'm ignoring their advice. 
Thats why I'm here.  I know that plants and fungi are entirely different kingdoms.  requirements and respiration are different.  However, there are similarities in managing negative pressure, climate control, phases of growth, etc.  Thats what I was trying to get at.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #26805348 - 07/05/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Man....


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #26805349 - 07/05/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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Lol, all of that and he hasn't even surpassed the "hey is this blue spot on my cake contamination?" Phase yet. Much lelz.




A lot of the Youtube channels I mentioned went from no farming experience to making a living growing gourmet in less than a year. Just because there's 100 overambitious noobs on here a day doesn't mean there aren't serious beginners either. It's better to steer people towards knowledge and give sound advice rather than mock them. Just makes the Shroomery look bad, in my foolish opinion.




I guess it also says a lot about a person when they are able to research enough by themselves and do enough realistic math to figure out what they need and what they dont need. Asking basic questions about things that can be solved out with simple math doent bode well. You can often spot people that may be over their head that way.

This is not only limited to materials and equipment but also accurately knowing what skills they have and how well those skills will serve them and what the limit for those skills are. For instance you can have excelent skills in doing lab work and have experience working with agar. But you dont know what contams you have in your environment or how to handle those contams. What many here are saying is that its excellent to have skills, but take into consideration the skills you dont have! Grow something, then ask me on how to make it bigger.

I guess I fail to understand why you keep calling it for "mockery". Why would it be a mockery to tell someone "hmm, why dont you try it out first and then put everything into it".


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805358 - 07/05/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is good advice, thank you. 

Easy enough to start smaller as I can let my partner keep going with her other production space.  Stacking totes is doable... I'm not looking to build out an autoclave at this point. 

These are valuable pieces of information for me, as the size of the space i have is large, however, there is all of the supporting equipment that may become problematic.  In other words, I'm working backwards a bit.  If the space and plans are simply too large, then I can scale back... that's easy.  A QP from first flush per tote is also valuable information.

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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26805359 - 07/05/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ha... Fair enough man..


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: redhandmat]
    #26805363 - 07/05/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I was smoking a doobie last night and thought I'd parachute in some questions that I"d had a hard time finding answers too. 

It blew up a bit, and here we all are. 

However, if you read this thread, there is definitely a bit of mockery in here. 
If this is a forum to provide information, then I'm all for it.  The majority have provided good info.  Some are not, but I"m fine with sorting though that..

Any links are appreciated.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805368 - 07/05/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Go to the first page of this thread, click the link in bods signature "everything you need to know in one spot":thumbup:


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805376 - 07/05/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah man just search for Bod's teks (he answered your thread in the beginning) and they are really nice. Pastywhyte has a lot of teks that are nice. ShaperDreaming has some teks I really like (the sff I linked to before), also there are many other users that have exceptional teks and writeups, Faht, Violet, and more.

I would suggest for you to get a PC if you really want to start doing this, get some petridishes, agar, LME.. the basic stuff. Try out some tubs after you have figured out the teks that best suite your circumstances. Start manageable, get your learning curve started, ask the stupidest questions in the forums (like me) on actual grows to get feedback, perfect your techniques. When you're ready you'll be a lot less cocky than now :laugh::tongue:

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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: redhandmat]
    #26805414 - 07/05/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What they said, Bod's knowledge comes from a lot of experience and professional lab work. He's the dude when it comes to great TEKs.

This thread on spotting hidden contamination on agar has  helped me out a ton, even now I still review it from time to time.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22020260


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: redhandmat]
    #26805587 - 07/05/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tips on Teks to follow. 

I'm not cocky, just ambitious!:wink:

I've been BOD pop up a few times and appreciate the information that you have all provided.

I'm totally ok with starting small.  Any tips on best pressure cookers in Canada are appreciated.  Leaning towards a stovetop (buying and installing an oven downstairs), and pasteurizing in a tote connected to the top of my pressure cooker is appealing. 


The background I was providing was intended to let people know that they can use some technical terminology with me and that I'll understand what they mean.  Same with the grow room experience from cannabis.  I wasn't intended to be some sort of brag.

I'll start with my build out of lab space with a flow hood and get an over and pressure cooker going for my agar work.  I'll likely get a Blue meanie tissue culture from my bro, and will also grab a few spore syringes.  I intend on growing and isolating with agar, and then installing  small bar fridge in the lab to stall out anything that I'm not ready to move into jars or that have less than appealing mycelium characteristics.

Once that's rolling, I'll build out the second room to an incubation space and a fruiting space.

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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #26805589 - 07/05/20 04:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Much appreciated.

My overall challenge has been finding TEKs for larger spaces.

That essentially what I was getting at.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805592 - 07/05/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Start with a 23qt Presto, they're the best bang for the buck around. Later on you can upgrade to something larger that won't require babysitting.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805598 - 07/05/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Just apply the same practices for gourmets production to actives. Look over in the gourmet forum for ideas there. I'd also recommend getting some books on the subject. I just purchased this from Amazon and it goes into detail about a lot of the conditions and processes that can be applied to actives.



You can utilize cannabis grow tents as fruiting rooms, just add shelving, fogger, LED strip lights etc and you have the perfect environment for mushroom production.

When grown in a tent/greenhouse you'd grow out of trays or bags as apposed to totes, you could even use individual myco bags as the actual fruiting chamber in the same way that you'd utilize a tote and forego using the tent. Really once you understand the basic environment and lifecycle of the species you're dealing with you will be able to make the best choice in terms of fruiting strategy and method of spawn production.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26805651 - 07/05/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man... THIS is the kind of information that I'm looking for! 

I totally get the cautionary recommendations from folks here.  When you're talking trays, what kind of trays are you talking about?  Seeding trays?  Can you grow out your bulk mycelium in them?  Are people covering them in Poly to keep them clean while they establish?  Ive seen pictures of trays fruiting before and I'm trying to figure out how they are done.  This can be the longer term plan while I mess around with mono tubs in the beginning.

I'm reading Stamets books, watching commercial gourmet production Youtube videos, build an account on here and on Mycopia.net, reading through all of the TEKs I can find (already went through BOD's but am going through them again).  I did the same thing when I researched an implemented TEKs for Mimosa hostilis extractions.


As I mentioned earlier, I'm just having a harder time finding information that merges from a couple of totes in the closet.  Happy to start there, but I'm interested in progressing and filling the available space that I have.

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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #26805653 - 07/05/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks, that's what I'm also thinking.  They appear to be a PITA to find in Canada and may need to special order.....


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805722 - 07/05/20 06:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

They're not the easiest to find the US, either. The only physical stores that I find them or spare parts  are small franchise hardware stores in areas with a large elderly population (for canning). Maybe country stores would have them too.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rumpleforeskin]
    #26805729 - 07/05/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So when you respond to someone, just to make things easier to understand, click the reply button on the right hand side of the comment window that you're replying to, this way everyone knows what comment you'rereplying to; you can also use the quote button to specifically quote what your responding to with even greater specificity.

As per your question about trays, you can use pretty much any tray you like. You'll learn about substrate depth requirements as you read.

If you can't find a presto you can get the Cadillac brand of countertop cookers here:

https://www.cookstore.ca/shop-by-brand/all-american.html

They're a better long term investment anyways.

Also, fuck Paul Stamets.

Check out RRs let's grow mushrooms series, he goes over grain spawn production, growing in tubs and trays, cloning, agar etc. All of these procedures apply to actives as well as gourmets.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo37sZth_4-ErU87fhasOxFTicHR0KqfI


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26806605 - 07/06/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

p9hu7 said:
So when you respond to someone, just to make things easier to understand, click the reply button on the right hand side of the comment window that you're replying to, this way everyone knows what comment you'rereplying to; you can also use the quote button to specifically quote what your responding to with even greater specificity.

As per your question about trays, you can use pretty much any tray you like. You'll learn about substrate depth requirements as you read.

If you can't find a presto you can get the Cadillac brand of countertop cookers here:

https://www.cookstore.ca/shop-by-brand/all-american.html

They're a better long term investment anyways.

Also, fuck Paul Stamets.

Check out RRs let's grow mushrooms series, he goes over grain spawn production, growing in tubs and trays, cloning, agar etc. All of these procedures apply to actives as well as gourmets.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo37sZth_4-ErU87fhasOxFTicHR0KqfI





Thanks for the tips man.  I've watched RR's videos as well...  I'll see what else he has.
I'll check the links out that you've provided.


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Re: Build out plan for basement production [Re: Rapjack]
    #27009388 - 10/28/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Rapjack said:
Start with a 23qt Presto, they're the best bang for the buck around. Later on you can upgrade to something larger that won't require babysitting.





I ended up getting 2.  :wink:


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