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Help DMT precip
    #26804354 - 07/04/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hey everyone,
Recently did 2 pulls and froze for 3 days, to no results? Used AA RB 50g with Lye, Zippo fluid naphtha, vinegar and pink Himalayan salt using this tek.
Did i f up by using pink salt? I read it has less iodine than table salt
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50g of Acacia Acuminata Narrow Phyllode Root Bark (AANPRB) in a 1L flask.

Add 500ml of H2O and 50ml of 5% acetic acid.

Soak for 24 hours agitating 6 times.

Add 200ml saturated saline solution (70g NaCL, 200ml H2O).

Add 200ml sodium hydroxide solution (60g NaOH, 200ml H2O).

Soak for 24 hours agitating 6 times.

Add 100ml of non polar solvent (naphtha).

Sit for 24 hours agitating 4 times.

Decant solvent into glass dish and freeze precipitate for 24 hours at minus 18°C.

Subsequent solvent washes with 50ml solvent.





I am currently evaping nps solution down and will refreeze, I have done this tek before with a heat bath and yielded small amount but switched to room temp due to reading you should nt heat AA RB.
Any advice really appreciated.


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Jinxmate]
    #26804356 - 07/04/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The nps has been evaping for aprox 2 hours and is now slighly cloudy when blown on should i try to completely evap as freezer isnt working for me right now?
CHeers


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Jinxmate]
    #26804428 - 07/04/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe your volume of solvent is too high? Try concentrating your solution next time before xtlalizing.
I don't know why some salt is pink as opposed to white other than from mineral impurities which would have no effect on your extraction. Sodium chloride is sodium chloride (salt).

Thye effects of iodine on the kind of extraction you are talking about doesn't matter other than the end product may have traces of iodine in it. AFAIK, iodine is a non player in this type of extraction. It would not stop the product from xtlizing.

Nothing will xtalize from a solution unless the solution is super saturated to begin with. There are 3 possibilities. 1- you started with bunk bulk product. 2- your solution is too dilute. 3- you f'd up on your extraction tek.

DO THIS OUTSIDE. Pour your solvent into a glass baking dish -the kind you would bake chicken parts in. Place a typical table fan 3 or more feet away so it blows on your baking dish. You want to see ripples on the surface. Elevate the far side of the dish by maybe a 1/4 inch on the far side so that you make a solvent ocean crashing on the beach kind of thing  go on.

You can evaporate lots of solvent in very little time doing it this way. BUT! DO IT OUTSIDE! Naphtha fumes are very flammable. I'm not calling you an idiot but until you prove me wrong I'm going to treat you like you may be one. I told myself I would never give advice on this topic ever again but you caught me in a good mood.

Hope this helps.


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26804437 - 07/04/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks brother you just confirm what I was thinking but could nt prove to myself, I've spent the last 3 hours evaping it and its now super saturated look about 10-20ml and i blow once and twice and i see streaks of clouding that turn into a pool of white cloudy liquid. I have put the original lid on and taped up the opening air release hole then glad wrapped it for max air tightness as I called a friend and he says never use glad wrap.. 
I did do this before with 50g Bark and precip'd in a jar instead of a tray and ended up losing alot due to bad collecting ended up with about 50mg ish oof. (I did use a heat bath and was shaking alot which i learn now it bad for AA RB)
About 30 mins ago I chucked in back into the freezer and Ill leave for atleast 2 days, Possible update here if i remember.


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Jinxmate]
    #26804478 - 07/05/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Glad to hear things are progressing in a positive way. Hope I didn't come off like a dick in my ^ post, but I have dealt with many an A-hole because they know I have some college chem experience. Do me a favor and dispose of any left-over reagents (lye solution, non-polar solvents etc. ) in a responsible way. Lye can go down the toilet (same stuff as drain cleaner), nappy can just be evapped or burned off. I have seen people do some dumb-ass sh*t.

Note: If your freezer doesn't freeze ice cream rock solid hard (too hard to eat. where you gotta wait a few to let it soften so ya can eat it), you might be better off just evapping it in a pyrex casserole dish like I stated above ^. I don't know why other people haven't caught up on this tek, I'm not  some kind of genious.(sp?) lol. You can easily evapp a pint of napp in less than an hour. There is a way to increaSE the rate of evaporation by a factr of 3 but it's a bit dangerous and I no longer trust people with it so I keep my mouth shut.

Good luck! Be careful! :rockon:


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26804620 - 07/05/20 05:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Haha I understand its okay, I know anyone who could chip is definitely more experienced than me. I will most likely just flush the jar contents after all my pulls, the tray is sealed and in the freezer im going to wait at least 2 days, I did another pull and saving in jar (with airtight lid until tray clean) blowing on that without any evap it is also cloudy. My mate recommends a long freeze and it worked last time so im going to try that, my freezer is at about -25oC maybe a bit higher but  I used the same freezer last time same temp and it worked fine.. If dont work freezing yea Ill just put all pulls in one thing and evap the whole lot. Im now almost sure it was due to a tiny bit of water in nps stopping precip/ too much nap/ both haha. Anyway cheers for the help mate ill have to update with a xtral pic if its good :laugh::thumbup:


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Jinxmate]
    #26804624 - 07/05/20 05:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Also completely forgot to add for anyone reading with the same problem i have a NPS jar that i used to pour the tray into then left for 5 mins and with a clean baster I sucked up all nps and left a tiny bit of a separate layer (probs water) and nps layer i could nt get. After this and a big evap aprox 30% original size and lighty blowing on nps the liquid changes from 100% clear to a milky color


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Jinxmate] * 1
    #26805562 - 07/05/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You can't use a plastic baster with naphtha for the same reason you're never to use glad plastic wrap - the naphtha will dissolve it. Putting tape over the air hole first is not great either because the fumes will dissolve tape, too. Maybe not painter's tape; but any plastic tape like scotch, packing tape, and the glue that makes tape sticky will dissolve. Ask me how I know.


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Icon]
    #26805972 - 07/05/20 09:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Haha I gotchu, im using white electrical tape and a glass baster. Whenever I had got specks of lye in the baster I would clean with water and dry with a paper towel. The tape and glad wrap is more or less for extra protection the airtight lid the tub came with itself has one of those opening and closing air holes that I've shut then taped shut as to stop accidental reopening or something then glad wrap around once. I think shell be right if it was directly over the nps id be changing id now.


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Re: Help DMT precip [Re: Jinxmate]
    #26810267 - 07/08/20 04:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Cheers for the help guys! Not too much but look real good :smile::thumbup:


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