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Psilo ID? * 3
    #26804436 - 07/04/20 11:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Habitat:
Grew in urdan area, clean grassland, isolated in midwest Australia. Close to coastline. See pictures.

Gills:
White/cream, adnate, gilled, heavily dusted in dark purple/black spore.

Stem:
10-50mm, 3-6mm, white, bruising blue (see picture, somewhat firm, thin.

Cap:
5n
5mm-40mm, chestnut centre and edge with lighter mid section, soft to touch, conical but flattening in maturity, concave.

Spore print color:
Doing spore print now, but seems to be dropping dark purple to black.

Bruising:
Bluing through stem, see picture.













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OfflineHAKR ELITE
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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: mullingitover]
    #26804456 - 07/05/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:popcorn: nice find im curious myself 😊

Welcome to the Shroomery :cheers:


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #26804462 - 07/05/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That bluing is definitely reminiscent of a Psilocybe. It doesnt look like any species i know of.

Awesome find!

:popcorn:


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI]
    #26804463 - 07/05/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #26804464 - 07/05/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks friendo! Should be safe to eat at the very least hey? Blueing and dark spores should have me safe?


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI]
    #26804467 - 07/05/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OOISI said:
That bluing is definitely reminiscent of a Psilocybe. It doesnt look like any species i know of.

Awesome find!

:popcorn:




Thank you, thank you! Was weird to find it there after spending a full day picking in the forest


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Nickoloxious] * 1
    #26804468 - 07/05/20 12:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I knew when I seen it that it was something special...Minds blown at the moment!!

Save some of these and wait for a trusted identifier before you do eat them :cheers:


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #26804469 - 07/05/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It looks Psathyrella-ish, does it bruise blue or does it just have blue regions? If you can reproduce the bluing effect then thats a good sign, if not it could be from some chemical in the habitat


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Moria841]
    #26804480 - 07/05/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

^ Yeah, strange find. The cap looks like Psathyrella, but the bruising says Psilocybe.


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Moria841]
    #26804481 - 07/05/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

looking close at the cap it looks to def be a purplish shade of spore deposits


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Moria841] * 1
    #26804482 - 07/05/20 12:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It looks like you have a few specimens. Can you please take some photos of all of them in that dish?

Now would be the best time take many photos as they are still fresh and we still have a couple hours of daylight left.

Quote:

mullingitover said:
Thanks friendo! Should be safe to eat at the very least hey? Blueing and dark spores should have me safe?




As was said before do not eat them! Wait for some Trusted Identifiers.


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI]
    #26804528 - 07/05/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck me. I fear he has gone and eaten them. Attaching to the words 'definitely' and 'psilocybe' in my original post and not reading it as 'the bluing reaction definitely resembles that of a psilocybe'. I have to watch how i word things, remembering that not everyone possesses such fine points of discrimination in the english language.

:facepalm:

i await a banning


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI] * 1
    #26804539 - 07/05/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OOISI said:
Fuck me. I fear he has gone and eaten them. Attaching to the words 'definitely' and 'psilocybe' in my original post and not reading it as 'the bluing reaction definitely resembles that of a psilocybe'. I have to watch how i word things, remembering that not everyone possesses such fine points of discrimination in the english language.

:facepalm:

i await a banning




Yo people, i'm back! I'll check bruising again when i'm home
Just been out and about, no consumption as yet. Drying some out so they might not be helpful, but some are sitting to spore print and i can play with those.

I haven't seen any blueing through cap yet from memory- is that something that might say no?

Will send through more pics tomorrow, bare with me crew


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI] * 1
    #26804555 - 07/05/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OOISI said:
i await a banning



You would've been fine man. It says under the MH&I forum to never eat unidentified mushrooms & that the site isn't responsible for any misidentification. You didn't identify anything & used the word "reminiscent"

@mullingitover
Cool find!

I wouldn't be so quick to dry them. Although intriguing there is still an element of doubt to this one.
If there's no additional bruising on the fresh specimens then that isn't a good sign.


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI]
    #26804584 - 07/05/20 03:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Lol OOISI funny bugger.


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI]
    #26804711 - 07/05/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OOISI said:
It looks like you have a few specimens. Can you please take some photos of all of them in that dish?

Now would be the best time take many photos as they are still fresh and we still have a couple hours of daylight left.

Quote:

mullingitover said:
Thanks friendo! Should be safe to eat at the very least hey? Blueing and dark spores should have me safe?




As was said before do not eat them! Wait for some Trusted Identifiers.




Hey all, i'm back! How do I know who are trusted identifiers?



Here are some more. The non bruising cap makes me suspicious, but the stems are all reasonably blue in areas. Weird, but probably environmental as stated.

Thoughts?


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: mullingitover]
    #26804724 - 07/05/20 07:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

mullingitover said: How do I know who are trusted identifiers?






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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: OOISI]
    #26804765 - 07/05/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

OOISI said:
Quote:

mullingitover said: How do I know who are trusted identifiers?









Many thanks :grin:


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: mullingitover]
    #26808172 - 07/07/20 01:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is a pretty interesting find.    Are you able to post any photos of the spore print? 

How fragile are the caps and stems?


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26808223 - 07/07/20 02:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Biscuits]
    #26808420 - 07/07/20 07:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting...


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: Tripliping]
    #26808987 - 07/07/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, very interesting, that cap texture is reminiscent of mushrooms that have been frozen by frost, was there a frost recently?

Make spore prints and take photographs of them and also, can you take images of them in the habitat?


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: inski]
    #26809228 - 07/07/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And definitely roam the grass again after next rain for fresh specimens and take your time with photos...

Tip- Zoom in in your shot and bring the camera further away and let it focus

1. Shot of them in the grass one close up one a bit further away

2. Shot of a few caps up close the zoom effect works great here

3. Shot of a few of the undersides

4. Collect in something they will have space in and handle each with care

5. Shots of your prints preferably on foil
for possible studies one drop of water on each cap to print better

6. Take the stems and tear em in strings and put them to the side and take pics of the staining preferably on something white

7. Stay tuned I think you are on to something here



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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: HAKR ELITE]
    #26809253 - 07/07/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)



That is what says psilocybe 99% to me that is some greenish blue staining all day long


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Re: Psilo ID? [Re: mullingitover]
    #26809640 - 07/07/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What did the base of them stems look like when you picked them?

Those caps remind me of a Xerula sp

The bluing and gills say otherwise


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