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Sprout P. Cubensis in Cow Manure
    #26804283 - 07/04/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi I'm new to growing and it would be quite difficult for me to get spores right now. I'm looking for a way to grow them naturally using manure.

I'm on a dairy farm and I have access to a lot of manure. I want to cultivate manure in a way that will/might produce P. cubensis and Paneolus cyanescens. I've searched the cow pastures a couple times and I think I might have found the Paneolus. (Don't worry, I'm not going to eat anything irresponsibly.)

I think I might be having trouble finding Cubensis because of bad luck, bad timing, and a hilly terrain with torrential rain that washes away a lot of soil (and cow patties). So I think it is more likely than not that there are spores already present in my manure.

The conditions in the area are adequate for both mushrooms and if you want the details here they are:
    Temp: 65-95 F all year (tropical)
    Alt: 600 m (My location has been recorded for finding certain species at
    exceptionally low altitudes)
    Humidity: 90-100%, raining almost every day. Plenty of water.

I am thinking of setting aside some manure where it won't get washed away or even bringing it indoors and watering it myself then seeing what happens.

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Especially about the amount of water the manure should receive. Thank you!


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Re: Sprout P. Cubensis in Cow Manure [Re: bananabred]
    #26804326 - 07/04/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

First you're gonna want to get a positive ID on the specimens you found. There are pan species in particular that grow on cow manure that are not active.

Second, cow manure needs to be aged and prep can be a struggle for beginners. I would advice looking into something easier like coir with cubes starting out.


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Re: Sprout P. Cubensis in Cow Manure [Re: bananabred]
    #26804329 - 07/04/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The last guy I heard of that brought manure inside his house (he put it in the bathtub), was greeted by a swarm of blackflies the following day. The idea you present is doomed to failure on several different levels. I can't blame you for trying to find an EZ way, but in reality, the easiest way is to save a few bucks, buy what you need and then follow one of the proven teks on THIS site.

If there was an easier way to do it, people would have done it! Peace yo...

Also, Tomato^ makes good points.


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Re: Sprout P. Cubensis in Cow Manure [Re: scarabaeus]
    #26804639 - 07/05/20 05:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah you should do some research. On a farm with access to land and cows it would be worth your time to find the species(if psychoactive) and bring it inside for spore print and clone sample. Then you'll have something to work with. Then once you have it isolated, you can inoculate grain and spread it all over the place. Good luck


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Re: Sprout P. Cubensis in Cow Manure [Re: CagedApe]
    #26804811 - 07/05/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1464482/fpart/all/vc/1

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1578152/fpart/all/vc/1

Not sure if possible for you but I've seen a few posts mention putting spores into the food/water of the cows. They pass through the digestive system and given the right conditions grow in the poo.


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Re: Sprout P. Cubensis in Cow Manure [Re: Ambrose]
    #26805467 - 07/05/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1464482/fpart/all/vc/1

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1578152/fpart/all/vc/1

Not sure if possible for you but I've seen a few posts mention putting spores into the food/water of the cows. They pass through the digestive system and given the right conditions grow in the poo.



That's a crap shoot....no pun intended


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