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Does this Cybe's DMT look right?
#26803348 - 07/04/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I followed Cybe's extraction to the T. However, at the time these pictures were taken they were only in the freezer for about 14 hours.
Does this look right to you guys? Like none of the crystals are sticking to the bottom...
Thanks!


Edited by NightPuma1 (07/04/20 11:08 AM)
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26803387 - 07/04/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doesn't look right at all
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26803418 - 07/04/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wait why? I did everything by the book.
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26803422 - 07/04/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Buying a cookbook doesn't make you Gordon Ramsay. You messed something up
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26803425 - 07/04/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I may have made my water bath quite hot and not warm - will that ruin my final product? Being too hot at each "warming" step?
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26803438 - 07/04/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I do STB.
 It looks like you got an emulsion or you grabbed some of the polar layer when you were pulling off the naptha and contaminated it.
If you do it right you'll get white to yellowish white crystal right off the bat.
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26803444 - 07/04/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Is there anything I can do?
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: bodhisatta]
#26803470 - 07/04/20 12:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean at this point is there anything I can do?
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26803485 - 07/04/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
NightPuma1 said: I mean at this point is there anything I can do?
Re-X after they're dry and scraped up
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: DnDRnD]
#26803493 - 07/04/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So fan dry it completely, then add more Naphtha, then suck off this Naphtha layer leaving the impurities behind? And then put this new Naphtha layer in another pyrex dish and freeze it?
Is that right?
Thank you sir!
Edited by NightPuma1 (07/04/20 12:19 PM)
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26803499 - 07/04/20 12:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pretty much! 
Usually you'll warm up the naptha slightly to help dissolve stuff
Heptane is even better for recrystallization because it's a more selective solvent (dmt is soluble at higher temps but crashes out around room temp in heptane if I remember right)
Another option is to salt your extract then re freebase and extract again
For thatd you would dissolve in say vinegar and water or citric acid and water, really any acid and water works
Then you filter it, add in your lye and then re pull with naptha making sure to not get any of the polar layer this time
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: DnDRnD]
#26803505 - 07/04/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is a bunch of salt in here.
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: DnDRnD]
#26803509 - 07/04/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So basically is it fair to say that I probably did everything right except when I sucked off the Naphtha layer I sucked up too many impurities?
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26803510 - 07/04/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
NightPuma1 said: There is a bunch of salt in here.
Not regular salt lol
It's called salting because you form an acid salt, so by dissolving the freebase in say vinegar and water you form the DMT acetate salt, for citric acid it's the citrate salt
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: DnDRnD]
#26803567 - 07/04/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry - what do you mean not actual salt?
In Cyb's tek he says to add "30g of regular, NOT-IODIZED" salt. Which is exactly what I did.
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1] 1
#26803604 - 07/04/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I mean the clean up process I'm referring to
It's called "back salting" I think is the term
In chemistry you have what's called "acid salts" which are formed when different alkaloids are mixed with different acids and bases
This is not regular salt (NACL)
So with DMT you have freebase dmt and then you have dmt salts, for example dmt acetate, dmt fumarate, dmt hydrochloric, dmt citrate, etc
The process I'm referring to is where you take the freebase dmt which is what you get as the end product from the tek you followed and you add that freebase dmt to water with an acid mixed in like vinegar, hydrochloric acid, citric acid, and so on
When the dmt freebase is dissolved in this acid/water solution the freebase dmt forms into the corresponding acid salt based on which acid it is you used in the acid/water mixture
By changing the freebase to a salt form you change what chemicals its soluble in and since not all plant materials inside of the root bark can form acid salts then this means some of the non alkaloid contamination will be left behind and filtered out
You then add in your base (usually sodium hydroxide, aka lye) to the water/acid/dmt mixture to re freebase your dmt and extract it into a new layer of naptha to help increase purity
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: DnDRnD]
#26803613 - 07/04/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I see.
So it looks like I formed an emulsion and then sucked up some of the basic layer as well.
Out of curiosity, why can't you just take a turkey baster and suck off the entire top layer including a little bit of the basic layer.
Then transfer all of this over to a tall narrow graduated cylinder. It seems like it would be a lot easier to suck off the Naphtha layer from a tall cylinder than it would be from this big mason jar.
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: DnDRnD]
#26803621 - 07/04/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually wait a second - if I sucked up some impurities from the basic layer along with my Naphtha, wouldn't I just put it all in a very tall and narrow cylinder, heat it up so that the Naphtha layer separates and then suck it off?
I don't actually need to evaporate or add more Naphtha right?
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Re: Does this Cybe's DMT look right? [Re: NightPuma1]
#26804306 - 07/04/20 09:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've actually never had to deal with an emulsion layer 
Nah because once the Crystal's have already started to form they've begun trapping contaminates inside so you have to dissolve them again so if they're still floating in the naptha then you could heat it up carefully or simply allow it to come to room temp then stir until it's basically all dissolved
Then you could add it to a tall cylinder and mabye add some extra water to make the basic layer easier to see and separate from
Since they look like they're not going to be very pure Crystal's a Re-X is recommended anyways to clean them up so it wouldn't hurt at all to filter out the Crystal's and redissolve in fresh solve or back salt the Crystal's before re-x
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