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Trouble Getting in the mood
#26803012 - 07/04/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love psychedelics and i am relatively experienced with them
however recently ive noticed a major issue where i never feel like im ready to take them for the day
like ill plan the day out before, ill start the fast, but then when the time comes, I dont feel like I'm ready.
im not saying something scary is gonna happen, I mean I feel like im in the wrong mindstate to have a comfortable trip
what do you guys do to get "in the mood"
Edited by slutoni (07/04/20 08:16 AM)
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Re: Trouble Getting [Re: slutoni] 2
#26803018 - 07/04/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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slutoni said: I love psychedelics and i am relatively experienced with them
however recently ive noticed a major issue where i never feel like im ready to take them for the day
like ill plan the day out before, ill start the fast, but then when the time comes, I dont feel like I'm ready.
im not saying something scary is gonna happen, I mean I feel like im in the wrong mindstate to have a comfortable trip
what do you guys do to get "in the mood"
I feel the same way. My ego likes to fight me on it because it’s scared to participate in something that might change it fundamentally.
I’ll be taking a dose in a few hours, have been planning to since last week since I have the opportunity today.
I’ll say this, my rituals, techniques etc mean nothing when it comes time to take it. My technique is, since I planned it, at the hour I plan on taking it, I knock the dose back, no questions asked. I don’t want to give my ego time to run down a list of reasons why it doesn’t want to be disciplined.
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni]
#26803029 - 07/04/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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For whatever reasons, I’m in the same place brother. And my honest answer to you is, I really don’t know what the answer is. I do have a good excuse which is lockdown with a 14 year old daughter. But it is an excuse, I could work something out.
Listen to Socrateshroom, I have so much respect for him, and wishing him a deep meaningful journey later today.
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni] 1
#26803068 - 07/04/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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slutoni said: I love psychedelics and i am relatively experienced with them
however recently ive noticed a major issue where i never feel like im ready to take them for the day
like ill plan the day out before, ill start the fast, but then when the time comes, I dont feel like I'm ready.
im not saying something scary is gonna happen, I mean I feel like im in the wrong mindstate to have a comfortable trip
what do you guys do to get "in the mood"
I feel your pain (though I never fast, just wait a few hours after eating).
This has happened to me more times than I can count (but not as many times as I've actually tripped, fortunately). I was gonna last Wednesday but I came up with excuses as to why I should put it off. I shouldn't have put it off. 
For me though getting in the mood is a whole lot easier if I've been tripping recently and been reminded of how great it really is. 
IME the desire to trip just builds up over time until it overcomes the BS. I can sense it happening now, 'cause I'm shooting for Monday instead.
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: DJ Ed]
#26803711 - 07/04/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey bro I've been working through things this trip and you know what i noticed is a requirement for a good trip?
excellent physical health
a run pre trip really saved me and the whole trip I've been doing leg calisthenics stuff.
maybe the most important thing for a good trip is stretching and joint health. i know it sounds really weird but fixing my posture just seemed to save everything.
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni]
#26804548 - 07/05/20 02:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would absolutely agree with that, slutoni,
I have type 1 diabetes, so being “stable” is an essential requirement, I also aim to be well hydrated, and partially fasted (generally a minimum 4 hours, but as I said stable blood sugar is essential).
I also find it equally important to be healthy the next day; when your mind and body are tired from a multiverse journey The night before, it’s important to come down in a stable manner too.
Take care DJ Ed
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni] 1
#26804585 - 07/05/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes running a couple hours before tripping is a great way to meditate and get a good relaxed feeling. As to getting in the mood, I also have that problem, but there are downsides to tripping that you must consider, like you can't do the same things you enjoy sober. So why trip? This Friday I took a nice low dose trip after initially setting down 2x the amount around 40g fresh in tea. I decided I want to be able to function outside and so the dose was perfect for taking a bike ride to the beach and then preparing for a train ride to meet my brother. So I guess getting in the mood would be to think about what you want to do the next 3-4 hours. Lower doses, like 1.5-2g are nice because you get the good effects of the mushrooms without too much intensity and you can do stuff like you were sober
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni]
#26804615 - 07/05/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would try a low dose trip (maybe half of what you'd usually have). It will be really different. If you've never tried, now that you feel unprepared for a normal trip it may be the best time to try this.
Of course, with a low dose it won't be very interesting unless you go outside, and I would recommend the nature. It needn't be something amazing, even a park can be quite fascinating; but of course a forest or mountain/hill would be even better.
What I wouldn't do is go for a normal trip if you are not feeling ready. I think after one (or two) low dose trips, maybe you'd feel ready to have a normal trip again.
There's something else: maybe you could try taking it in the morning, and I mean, for breakfast: almost the first thing that you do after waking up (perhaps a short run before!). If it's a sunny day and you have slept well I'd say you'd have better vibes than later in the day. It works for me. Of course, at high doses it probably doesn't matter.
Edited by Lazaro (07/05/20 05:07 AM)
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806341 - 07/06/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: For whatever reasons, I’m in the same place brother. And my honest answer to you is, I really don’t know what the answer is. I do have a good excuse which is lockdown with a 14 year old daughter. But it is an excuse, I could work something out.
Listen to Socrateshroom, I have so much respect for him, and wishing him a deep meaningful journey later today.
❤️ DJ Ed

Much respect back at you!
Trip was oddly weaker than I expected but I learned a very valuable lesson. Now I know why Terrence always suggested 5g, there is little chance you won't have an intense experience on that dose. In 2 weeks time I'm planning on going to 4g or 2g APEs.
And OP, I always question wether I'm ready. That is the ego's tactic of putting off what you want to/need to do. I've realized that if I'm always not ready, then maybe my requirements for being "ready" are unrealistic. So lower the standards for being ready in your mind. Work on yourself daily to be better than you were yesterday but not so that you can say you're ready to "trip" but because it is a noble goal to constantly work to better oneself.
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Man, let me tell you, that you are NOT ALONE when it comes to exactly this. I can have a million reasons to eat mushrooms and one reason not to.. and that will outweigh my ego of not taking them.
Psychedelics make you extremely vulnerable and I believe its our defense mechanism kicking in before anything has even started. When I eat them, I eat them quick and fast.. before my mind changes again. Then, After I eat them I get EXTREMELY paranoid and anxiety ridden like "oh man oh man what did I just do"
Then I'll do some breathing, drink some water and try and calm my brain. Then, ironically when the trip starts and I get over that weird comeup anxiety hill.. I 90% of the time always wish I had taken more lol.
It's weird how it works. But I feel like it's smart to tread lightly and it shows that you understand the power behind these things that can change everything you know about yourself, upside down.
It's always nice reading a thread/posts that hit so close to home and shows how like minded others are. Makes you feel a little better the next time you want to take some.
Cheers buddy
Edited by Vibe_Enthusiast (07/06/20 07:52 AM)
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I have literally had the glass of lemon tek tea to my lips. And poured it away without drinking a drop! On more than one occasion
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: DJ Ed]
#26806703 - 07/06/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not sure we can ever really be ready for the big Trips, but we can be prepared
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: DJ Ed]
#26813242 - 07/09/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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AHHH! I COULD NEVER EVER EVER DO THAT
also to the guy that said i reminded you of our connectedness remember i love you brother or sister or xe
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni]
#26813820 - 07/09/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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When I hit periods of putting off my psychedelic use despite knowing deep down I could use a trip I tell myself that this is for my best interest and any anxiety I feel is unfounded, as mushrooms have always given me something special to take back from their lessons.
I remind myself that when I come up with excuses to skip tripping it is usually because I'm worried about having my current mental defaults potentially changed or challenged if that makes sense
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: Psicomb]
#26813826 - 07/09/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been trying to post a thread on this very issue. The page freezes.
But I totally understand and feel the same.
I'm gonna read the thread to get some ideas flowing.
Edited by LosTresOjos (07/09/20 09:34 PM)
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Quote:
Socrateshroom said:
I feel the same way. My ego likes to fight me on it because it’s scared to participate in something that might change it fundamentally.
I’ll be taking a dose in a few hours, have been planning to since last week since I have the opportunity today.
I’ll say this, my rituals, techniques etc mean nothing when it comes time to take it. My technique is, since I planned it, at the hour I plan on taking it, I knock the dose back, no questions asked. I don’t want to give my ego time to run down a list of reasons why it doesn’t want to be disciplined.
Wow...I love it. I'm going to remember this as my last time I remember having some thoughts about whether I was truly ready for this or not or if I should wait longer. Thank you for this.
Good luck later today. I'm also thinking of dosing a 1.5-2g lemon tek later tonight
Edited by reeelax (07/10/20 10:09 AM)
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: slutoni]
#26815466 - 07/10/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dealt with this for like the last year and eventually got a moment where i was relaxed but not tired, and watched a TV show that im chill with during the come up and stepped outside (night time tripping) anytime i felt a bit of anxiety to get some open space and fresh air. the trip was good and i think you sort of get a bit worried when its been a while.
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: domakus] 1
#26815879 - 07/10/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You gotta just commit and do it
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Re: Trouble Getting in the mood [Re: Enkidu]
#26815957 - 07/10/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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We've probably all experienced this. Just keep pulling the arm on the slot machine and when the cherries finally line up, be ready to go.
Tripping when it doesn't feel right is just going to make for a bad time. There's no "getting in the mood" IMO; things either fall into place or they don't. Are you anxious about anything? Troubled by something? Work that out beforehand. A trip will amplify whatever you're dealing with. Maybe it will help you work it out, but it might be unpleasant at the same time.
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Well idk if thats entirely accurate
Plenty of times i knew a trip was what i needed and be good for me but i would push ot off or make excuses then when i finally dosed i thought, fuck, this was so beneficial, i need to force myself to do this more
But you get busy living the life of an ant you know
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