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MightyWhite

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Absentee voting 1
#26800660 - 07/03/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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How many of you guys do mail in voting?
I just started doing it last fall, I randomly got a form in the mail that said I was eligible for absentee voting. I checked the boxes on the form to absentee vote for local and federal elections from here on out.
I love it, it's pretty convenient for me. I work a lot and don't have the free time to get to the polls. I would have to take time off work to vote, my boss has no problem with that, he encourages us to vote. We just have to let him know in advance so he can schedule for it. Now I don't have to lose any hours by getting out early or coming in late for work. No more standing in line waiting.
I just got this in my mail yesterday, it's the primary elections for my state. This weekend I will sit at my kitchen table drinking a beer and vote. It's the American way.

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Sulfurshelfsean
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Shame on you for participating in voter.fraud
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Falcon91Wolvrn03
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I've been voting by mail since I moved back to California in 2004.
This year, California joins Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Hawaii, and Utah in giving ALL registered voters the opportunity to vote by mail.
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MightyWhite

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I've been voting by mail since I moved back to California in 2004.
This year, California joins Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Hawaii, and Utah in giving ALL registered voters the opportunity to vote by mail.
It's a pretty kick ass option, makes things real easy. I'm not sure when Michigan started doing this, but I'm glad as fuck for it. Every registered voter should be able to vote by mail.
Mail in voting could be a way to minimize voter suppression, IMO
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MightyWhite

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Sulfurshelfsean said: Shame on you for participating in voter.fraud 
"There's very fine fraud on both sides"
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Kryptos
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It's a step in the right direction.
I'd prefer online voting, personally. Less effort, no need for mail. Plus, online voting, when combined with some basic infrastructure (Free internet for all?) could very well set up the ability to make voting mandatory and still fairly equitable, which I think would be a helpful system overall.
Of course, internet voting, free internet, mandatory voting? That's all just a crazy liberal Nazi-Stalinist hellhole fantasy utopia.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Kryptos]
#26802091 - 07/03/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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mandatory voting sounds pretty fucking awful, dude.
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Kryptos
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Enlil]
#26802237 - 07/03/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Howzat?
You've got mandatory driver's licenses, you've got mandatory taxes, you've got mandatory vehicle/home registration, mandatory voting would be the easiest of the bunch.
You could even make it easy: if you don't vote, you can't get government benefits. No tax deductions, no registration, no driver's license, etc. That way, not voting is still a choice, just an expensive one.
Feel free to argue against it, as long as you're willing to put your money where your mouth is and argue against the fundamental underpinnings of democratic society.
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Enlil
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Kryptos] 1
#26802255 - 07/03/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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None of those are mandatory, dude. Forcing people to vote is antithetical to the fundamentals of our society
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ballsalsa
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Enlil] 1
#26802414 - 07/03/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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we should pay a crisp $50 for each ballot cast
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Enlil
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That, I'd get behind
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Pixistix
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Mail in voting can be so easily manipulated. Read about the fraud triangle. If you didn't think our vote mattered before it sure won't at all if we went to mail in ballots.
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Enlil
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Pixistix]
#26802450 - 07/03/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Votes do matter now.
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Brian Jones
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Absentee voting isn't exactly the same as voting by mail, although absentee voting is usually done by mail. The distinction varies by state. I googled the difference several times and I still can't figure it out. I'm sure we'll all know more about it in the next couple months.
Trump and other prominent Republicans are against voting by mail, because it "leads to fraud", which there is very little evidence to support. What it leads to is a lot more people voting which always benefits Democrats. The funny thing is Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos have done all their voting by mail for a long time.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Pixistix] 1
#26802629 - 07/04/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pixistix said: Mail in voting can be so easily manipulated. Read about the fraud triangle. If you didn't think our vote mattered before it sure won't at all if we went to mail in ballots.
One post. LOL.
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MightyWhite

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Brian Jones said: Absentee voting isn't exactly the same as voting by mail, although absentee voting is usually done by mail. The distinction varies by state. I googled the difference several times and I still can't figure it out. I'm sure we'll all know more about it in the next couple months.
Trump and other prominent Republicans are against voting by mail, because it "leads to fraud", which there is very little evidence to support. What it leads to is a lot more people voting which always benefits Democrats. The funny thing is Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos have done all their voting by mail for a long time.
Well whatever the hell you want to call it, I'm mailing in my absentee ballot vote, and that's the way I'll always do it from now on.
I'm not arguing that Trump and other Republicans said it leads to fraud, because I don't know, I've never heard that. How could anyone say it leads to fraud? You have to sign the ballot and I'm pretty sure the signature is verified, at least I hope it is. The ballot has a number on it that's specific to the person it was mailed to. The post office delivers the ballots to wherever they get counted and the post office is a neutral party, at least I hope they are, they have no idea what vote is inside the envelope once it's sealed. Maybe I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem like a lot of room for fraud along the way..
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MightyWhite

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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Pixistix]
#26802727 - 07/04/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pixistix said: Mail in voting can be so easily manipulated. Read about the fraud triangle. If you didn't think our vote mattered before it sure won't at all if we went to mail in ballots.
No one is manipulating me what boxes I check on my ballot
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MightyWhite

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ballsalsa said: we should pay a crisp $50 for each ballot cast
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Brian Jones
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Quote:
MightyWhite said:
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Brian Jones said: Absentee voting isn't exactly the same as voting by mail, although absentee voting is usually done by mail. The distinction varies by state. I googled the difference several times and I still can't figure it out. I'm sure we'll all know more about it in the next couple months.
Trump and other prominent Republicans are against voting by mail, because it "leads to fraud", which there is very little evidence to support. What it leads to is a lot more people voting which always benefits Democrats. The funny thing is Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos have done all their voting by mail for a long time.
Well whatever the hell you want to call it, I'm mailing in my absentee ballot vote, and that's the way I'll always do it from now on.
I'm not arguing that Trump and other Republicans said it leads to fraud, because I don't know, I've never heard that. How could anyone say it leads to fraud? You have to sign the ballot and I'm pretty sure the signature is verified, at least I hope it is. The ballot has a number on it that's specific to the person it was mailed to. The post office delivers the ballots to wherever they get counted and the post office is a neutral party, at least I hope they are, they have no idea what vote is inside the envelope once it's sealed. Maybe I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem like a lot of room for fraud along the way..
I know. It is a whatever the hell you want to call it situation. But technically, you aren't an absentee voter; you're not overseas in the military, or too sick or disabled to be capable of voting. You live in a state that allows mail in voting. I agree that it's a great idea, and isn't likely to lead to fraud.
But Republicans are definitely against expanding it, because they know how much it will hurt them.
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We should have politicans pay the voters, as well(?). When staying in my wife's country, the local officals running for office make their rounds that way. Seems like a bribe but differnt vibe out there.
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