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Invisiblemush1123
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Black ring under cap contam?
    #26801557 - 07/03/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is a first transfer dish that won’t be going to bulk, but it started pinning and I see there are black rings under the caps of many of the pins, but not anywhere on the larger fruit. Is this contamination? Thanks for any help!



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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: mush1123]
    #26801642 - 07/03/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Bruising or spores.

They make good clones too.


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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26801785 - 07/03/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Oh great thanks so much. Do you think that big one’s a good size to clone now? I read Frank’s cloning TEK.


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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: mush1123]
    #26801854 - 07/03/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

likely bruising.
any thing that looks like a pin is cloneable.
big one is multiple clones.


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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: panne cyanne]
    #26802509 - 07/04/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Is there a difference between cloning from a plate vs taking a wedge of myc from a true monoculture and transferring?


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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #26802970 - 07/04/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Clones from MS are rarely a single strain, and almost always chimeras of many genetics.


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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: ItsaMeShroomio]
    #26803341 - 07/04/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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ItsaMeShroomio said:
Clones from MS are rarely a single strain, and almost always chimeras of many genetics.




A clone isn’t an isolation of genetics? I thought that was the whole idea behind cloning.
Isolate genetics from a mushroom with good characteristics so that you can grow a batch from those good genetics.

I was under the impression that even with MS mycelium, each fruit can be considered to come from a genetically isolated chunk of mycelium.


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Re: Black ring under cap contam? [Re: TheDoobsker]
    #26803763 - 07/04/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Genetically narrowed, but even clones have a lot of strains in them.

It takes a stupid amount of effort to actually isolate down to one strain from what I’ve seen.


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