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Cybes DMT extraction question
    #26801446 - 07/03/20 01:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Without sounding arrogant, I'm extremely busy and often times I find that I have to break extractions up into maybe several days.

Regarding Cybes Tek, can someone please answer me the following:

1. After I do the step where I mix up the MHRB with the water and vinegar and boil it for an hour, can I then wait until the next day to add the salt and lye?

2. After I add the salt and the lye, can I wait a day to boil it again?

3. After I add the Naphtha, can I wait a day to boil it and keep re-separating the layers?

In any case, if it is okay to wait until the next day, should I just jar everything up and leave it at room temperature in the house?

This would help me a lot thank you guys!

*When I say "boil" everywhere I mean the hot bath


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26801631 - 07/03/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Honestly I find the best and fastest method is STB (straight to basic). I used the acid to base and although I got slightly cleaner crystals I felt it took to much time and was not worth it. The method I use is add powder (I use ACRBP cause its cheaper) add water stir add sodium hydroxide shake let sit an hour add naptha then roll it around be carefull not to shake cause you will get an emulsion. Then take 3 pulls seal it and put in freezer for 3 days. You should get at least 95% DMT pureity probably more if you use MHRBP but you can leave it as long as you want. One time I got high on weed and thought the cops were going to raid me so I put jars in the atic stuffing and left freebased liquid for a week. This was in the summer and it easily got over 100 degrees it still worked fine though feel free to take as much time as you need it wont hurt anything.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: OGshroomHead]
    #26802738 - 07/04/20 03:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah it's fine to leave parts sit for days, or even months between steps. I have a bottle of based bark that has been sat there since last year some time. Been thinking about that recently.

Just don't leave your solvent sat there though, it will absorb uber amounts of crap and wreck your pull. Do that final stage at once.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Northerner]
    #26803334 - 07/04/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You mean the Naphtha stage right?

Perfect. Thank you so much sir!

One slight other question I'm actually posting right now - does this look right to you? I followed the tek to the T. Thanks!







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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26803797 - 07/04/20 03:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like you've pulled a lot of crap with the spice, really dirty... Too dirty to re-x.

I would warm the whole lot up in a sink of warm water and then pour it in a half jar of vinegar. Shake the living fuck out of it for 10 minutes, let it settle, pull the vinegar out from under it and put it in a new jar. All the spice will then be in your vinegar. Base it, it will turn white. Add some fresh clean solvent and shake the fuck out of it again and pull X 3. Then freeze those pulls for clean white spice.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Northerner]
    #26803828 - 07/04/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Or you can just leave it freeze a day or so and tip off the old solvent, dump those dirty chunks in a shot glass with fresh solvent, heat gently in a hot water bath, when all dissolved tip off the solvent leaving as much of the gunk as possible. Then evap the solvent. I suspect that you've picked up so many tannins that this won't work for you though.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Northerner]
    #26803868 - 07/04/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Wait can't I just heat it up so that the basic layer and the Naphtha layer separate and then just suck off the Naphtha layer?


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26804198 - 07/04/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I thought that was just your solvent?


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Northerner]
    #26804221 - 07/04/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

This is my final frozen product. I am told I have done it wrong because I pulled a lot of the basic layer from underneath. Is that not why it looks bad?


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26804538 - 07/05/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ah okay...

Warm it up so the DMT remelts and pull the solvent off without the base, then refreeze it.

Basic layer is poison. You want none of it.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Northerner]
    #26804635 - 07/05/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Forgive me I guess I'm a little lost:

Someone on another forum is saying that it's likely too late to separate them at this point Because I pulled too much of an emulsion.

What exactly can I do to save this?

And what did I do to cause this? Instead of "figure eighting" the Naphtha I shook it up pretty good but I can't just get the feeling that in either case you would get emulsion.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26804658 - 07/05/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Don't shake your jar at all. Shaking is what causes emulsions. I only stirr my solution a bit with a big spoon, shaking (or repeatedly turning the jar upside down :rolleyes:) is not needed at all.

Just pour everything into a big jar, add some more water and more lye, heat it up in a hot waterbath, stirr slightly, let stand for an hour or three, or a day.
The emulsion should fade leaving two separate layers. Then suck off the naphtha layer without getting any drop of the basic solution into your pipette /syringe.

Better leave in a naphtha layer of half an inch or so, just to be sure you don't get any of the black solution. You are going to repeat pulling with fresh naphtha several times more anyway, so the half inch layer is not lost but will get out with the next pull.

Ps: Cybes tek is outdated.
With mhrb all you need to do is to mix water, lye, bark and naphtha in a big jar, let stand overnight, suck off naphta layer, evape or freeze, done.
No salt, heat, vinegar or filtering is needed at all. Just mix, and suck off the next day. 5min of work in total.  :shrug:

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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26804735 - 07/05/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Is it seriously that easy?

I might find the time for an extraction then...


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26804749 - 07/05/20 07:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Pretty much, yeah. That's what I do all the time, with good results.

Depending on the vendor, a kilo of mhrb is 100 to 150 bucks. You'll get 10 to 15 grams of dmt within two days or so. That's less than 10 bucks per gram. Totally worth it, imo.

This is roughly an ounce of dmt, made from 2 kilos mhrb.



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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26804962 - 07/05/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Okay well would you say that minus the vinegar and salt part that all of the other proportions in Cybe's Tek are correct?

Also, you said just throw everything in a jar overnight. What about the hot bath part?

Maybe rather than posting here back and forth I could message you and have a few moments of your time? I would really appreciate it.


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26804987 - 07/05/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You can just ask your questions here. In future anyone else can read it, too. That's the purpose (and advantage) of a forum, you know? :tongue2: But hey, feel free to PM me, sure. I get tons of PMs each week.

No need for heat.
Heating up the solution will speed up the process a bit, but also releases more oils and fats that are then also pulled with the naphtha, leading to a more yellow endproduct. Roomtemp is totally fine.

Salt is not necessary, but it helps pushing the freebased alkaloids into the naphtha.
So there's nothing wrong with adding some salt. But you will get the same yields and the same endpruoduct without any salt. You might need a pull more or two, but that's it.

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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26805006 - 07/05/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Okay I added in some water and some lye and it is heating up as we speak:



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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26805021 - 07/05/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

For the future, would you say that I should do:

50g MHRB
50g Lye
700ml water
50ml Naphtha

Put it all into a jar and stir but don't shake it. Let it sit for a day. Extract the Naphtha layer and put it into the freezer. Add another 50 ml of Naphtha. Stir it. Let it separate. Extract it and put it into the freezer. Repeat 4x.

Anything else worth mentioning?


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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: NightPuma1]
    #26805025 - 07/05/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Better pour it into another container, like a mason jar or so. The smaller the diameter of the jar, the bigger /thicker the NP layer will be, then it's easier to suck out without touching the water layer.

Your solution is very yellow. That's not bad, but it seems you used a lot of heat. Without heat, the naphtha usually stays completly translucent and white, with only a very slight hint of yellow.
The more yellow the naphtha, the more yellow the crystals.


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Yes, that's how I do it. I use more naphtha, though. Given this ratio I'd use at least 100ml, maybe 150ml.
Naphtha can only pull a limited ammount of dmt, especially at roomtemp. So the more naphtha you use, the more dmt it can pull in one go.

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Re: Cybes DMT extraction question [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26805039 - 07/05/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

And before you put it into the freezer, its best to let some naphtha evaporate. Evape so much that the solvent becomes cloudy when you blow on it.
Cloudy means it is saturated. Crystals will form easier and faster then.

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