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MightyWhite

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Absentee voting 1
#26800660 - 07/03/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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How many of you guys do mail in voting?
I just started doing it last fall, I randomly got a form in the mail that said I was eligible for absentee voting. I checked the boxes on the form to absentee vote for local and federal elections from here on out.
I love it, it's pretty convenient for me. I work a lot and don't have the free time to get to the polls. I would have to take time off work to vote, my boss has no problem with that, he encourages us to vote. We just have to let him know in advance so he can schedule for it. Now I don't have to lose any hours by getting out early or coming in late for work. No more standing in line waiting.
I just got this in my mail yesterday, it's the primary elections for my state. This weekend I will sit at my kitchen table drinking a beer and vote. It's the American way.

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Shame on you for participating in voter.fraud
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I've been voting by mail since I moved back to California in 2004.
This year, California joins Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Hawaii, and Utah in giving ALL registered voters the opportunity to vote by mail.
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MightyWhite

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I've been voting by mail since I moved back to California in 2004.
This year, California joins Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Hawaii, and Utah in giving ALL registered voters the opportunity to vote by mail.
It's a pretty kick ass option, makes things real easy. I'm not sure when Michigan started doing this, but I'm glad as fuck for it. Every registered voter should be able to vote by mail.
Mail in voting could be a way to minimize voter suppression, IMO
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MightyWhite

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Sulfurshelfsean said: Shame on you for participating in voter.fraud 
"There's very fine fraud on both sides"
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Kryptos
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It's a step in the right direction.
I'd prefer online voting, personally. Less effort, no need for mail. Plus, online voting, when combined with some basic infrastructure (Free internet for all?) could very well set up the ability to make voting mandatory and still fairly equitable, which I think would be a helpful system overall.
Of course, internet voting, free internet, mandatory voting? That's all just a crazy liberal Nazi-Stalinist hellhole fantasy utopia.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Kryptos]
#26802091 - 07/03/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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mandatory voting sounds pretty fucking awful, dude.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Enlil]
#26802237 - 07/03/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Howzat?
You've got mandatory driver's licenses, you've got mandatory taxes, you've got mandatory vehicle/home registration, mandatory voting would be the easiest of the bunch.
You could even make it easy: if you don't vote, you can't get government benefits. No tax deductions, no registration, no driver's license, etc. That way, not voting is still a choice, just an expensive one.
Feel free to argue against it, as long as you're willing to put your money where your mouth is and argue against the fundamental underpinnings of democratic society.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Kryptos] 1
#26802255 - 07/03/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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None of those are mandatory, dude. Forcing people to vote is antithetical to the fundamentals of our society
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Enlil] 1
#26802414 - 07/03/20 10:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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we should pay a crisp $50 for each ballot cast
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That, I'd get behind
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Mail in voting can be so easily manipulated. Read about the fraud triangle. If you didn't think our vote mattered before it sure won't at all if we went to mail in ballots.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Pixistix]
#26802450 - 07/03/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Votes do matter now.
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Absentee voting isn't exactly the same as voting by mail, although absentee voting is usually done by mail. The distinction varies by state. I googled the difference several times and I still can't figure it out. I'm sure we'll all know more about it in the next couple months.
Trump and other prominent Republicans are against voting by mail, because it "leads to fraud", which there is very little evidence to support. What it leads to is a lot more people voting which always benefits Democrats. The funny thing is Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos have done all their voting by mail for a long time.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Pixistix] 1
#26802629 - 07/04/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pixistix said: Mail in voting can be so easily manipulated. Read about the fraud triangle. If you didn't think our vote mattered before it sure won't at all if we went to mail in ballots.
One post. LOL.
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MightyWhite

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Brian Jones said: Absentee voting isn't exactly the same as voting by mail, although absentee voting is usually done by mail. The distinction varies by state. I googled the difference several times and I still can't figure it out. I'm sure we'll all know more about it in the next couple months.
Trump and other prominent Republicans are against voting by mail, because it "leads to fraud", which there is very little evidence to support. What it leads to is a lot more people voting which always benefits Democrats. The funny thing is Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos have done all their voting by mail for a long time.
Well whatever the hell you want to call it, I'm mailing in my absentee ballot vote, and that's the way I'll always do it from now on.
I'm not arguing that Trump and other Republicans said it leads to fraud, because I don't know, I've never heard that. How could anyone say it leads to fraud? You have to sign the ballot and I'm pretty sure the signature is verified, at least I hope it is. The ballot has a number on it that's specific to the person it was mailed to. The post office delivers the ballots to wherever they get counted and the post office is a neutral party, at least I hope they are, they have no idea what vote is inside the envelope once it's sealed. Maybe I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem like a lot of room for fraud along the way..
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Pixistix]
#26802727 - 07/04/20 02:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pixistix said: Mail in voting can be so easily manipulated. Read about the fraud triangle. If you didn't think our vote mattered before it sure won't at all if we went to mail in ballots.
No one is manipulating me what boxes I check on my ballot
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MightyWhite

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ballsalsa said: we should pay a crisp $50 for each ballot cast
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Brian Jones
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Quote:
MightyWhite said:
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Brian Jones said: Absentee voting isn't exactly the same as voting by mail, although absentee voting is usually done by mail. The distinction varies by state. I googled the difference several times and I still can't figure it out. I'm sure we'll all know more about it in the next couple months.
Trump and other prominent Republicans are against voting by mail, because it "leads to fraud", which there is very little evidence to support. What it leads to is a lot more people voting which always benefits Democrats. The funny thing is Mike Pence and Betsy DeVos have done all their voting by mail for a long time.
Well whatever the hell you want to call it, I'm mailing in my absentee ballot vote, and that's the way I'll always do it from now on.
I'm not arguing that Trump and other Republicans said it leads to fraud, because I don't know, I've never heard that. How could anyone say it leads to fraud? You have to sign the ballot and I'm pretty sure the signature is verified, at least I hope it is. The ballot has a number on it that's specific to the person it was mailed to. The post office delivers the ballots to wherever they get counted and the post office is a neutral party, at least I hope they are, they have no idea what vote is inside the envelope once it's sealed. Maybe I'm missing something, but there doesn't seem like a lot of room for fraud along the way..
I know. It is a whatever the hell you want to call it situation. But technically, you aren't an absentee voter; you're not overseas in the military, or too sick or disabled to be capable of voting. You live in a state that allows mail in voting. I agree that it's a great idea, and isn't likely to lead to fraud.
But Republicans are definitely against expanding it, because they know how much it will hurt them.
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We should have politicans pay the voters, as well(?). When staying in my wife's country, the local officals running for office make their rounds that way. Seems like a bribe but differnt vibe out there.
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I'll consider taking bribes. You can still vote how you want. One of my friends just retired from the Illinois Department of Transportation. He had to change political parties four times.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: Kryptos]
#26805568 - 07/05/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: None of those are mandatory, dude. Forcing people to vote is antithetical to the fundamentals of our society
I'll also quote myself, at least the relevant bits:
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Kryptos said: You've got mandatory driver's licenses, you've got mandatory taxes, you've got mandatory vehicle/home registration, mandatory voting would be the easiest of the bunch.
You could even make it easy: if you don't vote, you can't get government benefits. No tax deductions, no registration, no driver's license, etc. That way, not voting is still a choice, just an expensive one.
How is choosing not to have a driver's license (good luck getting to work, or anywhere), not paying taxes (Okay, so you are no longer able to earn or spend money not only in the continental US, but also as a US citizen worldwide), and you can't own a house or a vehicle, an example of "none of those things are mandatory"?
Further, How is my followup of "Well, no voting means no benefits", different from "If you vote I'll give ya 50$"? And yes, there is the obvious taking vs. giving, but if you combine all of the statements together, someone that doesn't pay mandatory taxes (by, once again, literally not ever creating value, which is taxable, and not spending their income, which is taxable) functionally does not exist. How do we work with that?
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I've voted by mail all my adult life, just as an option it makes sense now more then ever
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Ban it. Show up to vote or nothing.
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Says a lot about you, Brianson, qns they arent positive.
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So you can't spell at all, on a regular basis. Even on a phone you should be able to do better. You say you are a computer engineer, but somehow you don't have access to a computer.
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meltdowner said: Ban it. Show up to vote or nothing.
I fucking work 70+ hours a week and I'll be driving regional runs again this fall and will only be home on the weekends. I don't have time to go stand in line
Standing in line is for bitches anyways
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Shouldnt be allowed. There's no way to verify your vote made it.
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I do vote by mail, or absentee or whatever. Not sure what the difference is. My parents did it for many years before I finally gave it a go. Frankly, I actually don't think it's a very good idea. I think you should actually have to go down and present ID to prove who you are and stuff like that.
I've just always felt that you should have to do that and it seems strange that we don't have to. The very first time I voted when I was 18, I tried showing them my ID and they were like "lol we don't need to see that" and I was super confused. It just seems like a basic security precaution we should probably take, even in the absence of any voting fraud.
Having said that, I don't think mailing vs. going in person is really going to result in any difference considering that most states have been doing mail in or absentee for many years now. I just think we should convert to requiring ID in person and stuff. But it's nothing I'd get worked up about like the way some people are about it, again it's been going on for many years now. And even if it happens in person, it isn't any better if we don't check ID.
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Re: Absentee voting [Re: nooneman]
#26826280 - 07/16/20 03:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So what about people that work a lot and may not even be in their own state at the time to vote, fuck em, they don't get a voice?
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MightyWhite

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Well, fortunately for me and tens of thousands of other people, it is allowed
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Yeah, I registered to vote by mail and my wife didn't this last time around. So I decided to just go with her. It's two blocks from my home, but the lines were out the door and around the corner in 90 degree heat. It sucked. I'll be voting by mail next time.
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They just sent me an application to vote by mail. In Illinois the county clerks, even when they're republicans, are cool and very motivated to get out the vote. The secretary of state tries to register everyone who has a driver's license.
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Not if I had my way. No ones job is more important than the security ofnour elections.
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You don't get your way, so shut the fuck up and sit down before you hurt yourself
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Excuse me you didnt refer to me by my proper pronoun of Supreme Gay White Karater Master. Inform yourself son.
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meltdowner said: Not if I had my way. No ones job is more important than the security ofnour elections.
I can see it now: the day before voting day, every US soldier worldwide is loaded up, their gear abandoned, and shipped home to vote. Of course, as a result, every one of our enemies willingly declares a truce. Two days later, they're back and blasting brown people.
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