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Some crystals 1
#26795162 - 06/30/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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2nd time doing an extraction I am pretty happy with this one. Took board's advice and bought a coffee bean grinder for the bark, that definitely improved yield. Also bought a decent gram scale and as my mg scale only goes to 20 grams. And this time i bought a large measuring cup instead of eyeing stuff. Followed the tech to the letter.
I didn't try and mess with the freezer this time, I think it will always be evaporation for me. Last time the freezer stuff needed to be dried on paper, this time I just left it on my balcony with a fan blowing on it and it was ready in a few hours. I should have weighed the container I put the spice in first because now I don't know what the yield was, there is a tiny bit of naptha still in the jar. I will try adding a bit more and doing another pull. Just the smell of DMT gets me all

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Noce. You didnt freeze precip? So you go straight from the pull to evaporation..? Didnt know that worked
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Re: Some crystals [Re: Enkidu] 1
#26795251 - 06/30/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: Noce. You didnt freeze precip? So you go straight from the pull to evaporation..? Didnt know that worked
Yeah it works, I don't know if hurts yield, but I don't have space in my freezer
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Doesn't hurt yield (how could it?) but it's a smelly, non-stealthy, monumental waste of solvent.
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Nice one!
Ive done no-freeze before. It definitely works. This last time Ive been playing with the freezer, works pretty good, the trick is to have a high enough concentration in the Naptha that u grow crystals. But all-evap works well too Some clear crystalz u got there.
What tek did ya use?
And that DMT smell, like fresh flowers
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Nature Boy said: Doesn't hurt yield (how could it?) but it's a smelly, non-stealthy, monumental waste of solvent.
I would argue that it outside on my balcony is more stealthy than stinking out my kitchen. Naptha pretty cheap too.
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LogicaL Chaos said: Nice one!
Ive done no-freeze before. It definitely works. This last time Ive been playing with the freezer, works pretty good, the trick is to have a high enough concentration in the Naptha that u grow crystals. But all-evap works well too Some clear crystalz u got there.
What tek did ya use?
And that DMT smell, like fresh flowers 
I use this one: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77907
the comments there reminded me why I never joined dmt nexus, one guy complained everything is only easy to get in the USA, another didn't like mason jars, one guy got mad the crystals might be touched by a plastic turkey baster, one said the tek was too bluelighy lol. The most nexusy I got was trying to send positive vibes to the jar lol
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I always /mostly evape my solvent.
Yes it's a waste of solvent, but this way you get all alkaloids out. With freezing, there's probably some alkaloids left in the solvent.
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Pandemoon said: I always /mostly evape my solvent.
Yes it's a waste of solvent, but this way you get all alkaloids out. With freezing, there's probably some alkaloids left in the solvent.
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Nah man, try a test sometime evaporating the naphtha after a freeze precip.
OP, to keep the crystals from 'melting' after a freeze precip, put the dish back into the freezer upside down for a few minutes after pouring off the naphtha to let it drip away from the crystals and get a head start on evaporating.
Guys, don't fool yourselves into thinking dry crystals means no naphtha. Tiny molecules of naphtha do get trapped between and on crystals. They should always be washed at least once. I've noticed crystals from evaporation smell worse of naphtha, I think because the bottom of the dish can get very gooey once everything starts precipitating. Freeze precip crystals smell cleaner in my experience, my theory by being dispersed around the entire dish so they dry more evenly.
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viraldrome said: I would argue that it outside on my balcony is more stealthy than stinking out my kitchen. Naptha pretty cheap too.
Totally misses the point. Do yourself a favor and learn to freeze precipitate your product. Don't be so closed-mined and dogmatic. The advantages of freeze-precipitation exceed that of evaporation by a large measure.
Setting aside the fact that you're unnecessarily putting an organic solvent into the environment, freeze precipitation works just as well, if not better, and is probably significantly faster (to first yield) than evaporating any significant volume of naphtha. Furthermore, every last bit of contamination ends up in your final product when you evaporate, and there are plenty of naphtha containing solutions that can be purchased that have HORRIBLE additives that you do not want in your final product.
Just TRY IT. You have absolutely nothing to lose! Your product won't disappear from the naphtha, so you could always evaporate as a fall-back technique.
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Lovely DMT crystals.
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viraldrome said: I would argue that it outside on my balcony is more stealthy than stinking out my kitchen. Naptha pretty cheap too.
Totally misses the point. Do yourself a favor and learn to freeze precipitate your product. Don't be so closed-mined and dogmatic. The advantages of freeze-precipitation exceed that of evaporation by a large measure.
Setting aside the fact that you're unnecessarily putting an organic solvent into the environment, freeze precipitation works just as well, if not better, and is probably significantly faster (to first yield) than evaporating any significant volume of naphtha. Furthermore, every last bit of contamination ends up in your final product when you evaporate, and there are plenty of naphtha containing solutions that can be purchased that have HORRIBLE additives that you do not want in your final product.
Just TRY IT. You have absolutely nothing to lose! Your product won't disappear from the naphtha, so you could always evaporate as a fall-back technique.
I am using pure naptha and nothing you said there makes me want to stink out my freezer
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Mason jars are great vessels for freezing and won't allow any odor to escape. Good looking haul all the same. Enjoy!
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viraldrome said: I am using pure naptha and nothing you said there makes me want to stink out my freezer
-flaming- You CLEARLY don't understand the concept or the procedure of freeze precipitation. Freeze precipitation is done in a vapor-sealed jar. -edit: Flaming- You'll come around eventually. You can't go on evaporating naphtha forever. Once, twice maybe...but after the 20th or 30th time, you'll learn what is involved in freeze precipitation (it is truly stupid-easy) and you'll switch. Hint: All you need is a jar with a tight lid.
Done trying to help you.
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Dang i can feel that burn from here. Considering this is your 2nd extract your doing good dude! For sure consider freeze precip because if you get fatty or low quality pay dirt youll want to clean it up and freeze precip is the best way to do so from what ive seen. Plus the obvious savings/preservation of materials. Again enjoy the fruits of your labor bud!!!!!
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As Nature Boy Unshroomerly put it, u use a air-tight jar to freeze your naptha. I use half pint glass jars, they work well.
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