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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26796393 - 07/01/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Casing the jars to see what happens sounds like a fine plan. If they were bacterial and you spawned them the spawn usually just doesn't recover and ever grow so that would be bad. At least this way it's still consolidated and COULD fruit.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26796398 - 07/01/20 07:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just stopping by to admire the constructive discourse in this thread. Good show boys.
Good luck to you OP, I'll be observing and learning.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Zakkery]
#26796483 - 07/01/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can case and top fruit bacterial spawn. It’s not the best yield but it can still give you something if you have nothing. Here is an example of bacterial spawn that I just cases and top fruited directly. By not breaking up and exposing the colony to open air you limit how much damage mold is able to do.

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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26796814 - 07/01/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Awesome! Thank you all again. How thick of a casing layer do I want to use? 1/2”? All I have is coir. Leave open or some kind of lid? Darkness or light?
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26798726 - 07/02/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bumping just to get so guidance on how to case and fruit directly from my quart jars
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26798731 - 07/02/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Easiest way for most people is to remove lid, put a half inch of coir/verm on the top of the grains, then put a ziploc baggy over the jar mouth. Poke a hole or two in the bag for extra air flow if needed and mist if it gets dry. Should see a few fruits come up.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26798931 - 07/02/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Looks like a friendly shroom trying to grow to me
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26799588 - 07/02/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Easiest way for most people is to remove lid, put a half inch of coir/verm on the top of the grains, then put a ziploc baggy over the jar mouth. Poke a hole or two in the bag for extra air flow if needed and mist if it gets dry. Should see a few fruits come up.
Cool thanks
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26808579 - 07/07/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So here is my next few jars, they don’t seem to have that matted cinnamon roll icing look. Do they seem to be right or do you folks still think I have a problem?
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26808582 - 07/07/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So here is my next few jars, they don’t seem to have that matted cinnamon roll icing look. Do they seem to be right or do you folks still think I have a problem?
The other jars were bacterial, these look like straight mold to me.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26808682 - 07/07/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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So here is my next few jars, they don’t seem to have that matted cinnamon roll icing look. Do they seem to be right or do you folks still think I have a problem?
The other jars were bacterial, these look like straight mold to me.
Haha well that sucks!
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26808712 - 07/07/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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What are you using to inoculate? Those jars just looks sketch af to me.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26808723 - 07/07/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: What are you using to inoculate? Those jars just looks sketch af to me.
Made a LI using a agar puck that was from 4 transfers deep. Looked clean but I’m new, haven’t seen a whole lot.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26808727 - 07/07/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Got any pics of the agar?
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26808744 - 07/07/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Got any pics of the agar?

Unfortunately no. If I remember right that jar ended up way overgrown though. All my myc looks the same though, dense growth. This pic was from a few transfers ago when I posted about the contamination in this pic.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26808779 - 07/07/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well I might try top fruiting those jars as well but I wouldn’t spawn em. I would try and change things up; better lids (metal two piece are clumsy and lead to bad handling), try a different grain (I never liked oats, most of my worst failures were with oats), and avoid liquid inoculates until you get everything else dialed in.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26808834 - 07/07/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Well I might try top fruiting those jars as well but I wouldn’t spawn em. I would try and change things up; better lids (metal two piece are clumsy and lead to bad handling), try a different grain (I never liked oats, most of my worst failures were with oats), and avoid liquid inoculates until you get everything else dialed in.
Eh I already spawned them right to a shoebox, posted the pic later. They did pass the smell test at least. I bought some Pennington’s wild bird seed for finch’s that’s had no sunflower seeds. I’ll try it next with some clean myc that I have in the fridge waiting. When I make that post I’ll be sure to include a agar pic. Now I need to look up a good WBS tek.
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26808840 - 07/07/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: and avoid liquid inoculates until you get everything else dialed in.
What would you suggest, just using agar wedges put directly into the grain jars? I did this with my first few jars and it was terribly slow. That said I did only use a wedge the size of an agar transfer wedge. Inexperience...
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Jbrady5555]
#26808898 - 07/07/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I use this. But more wedges is always better than less. Also I like to use pint jars as masters and them G2G them to six quarts or so. They colonize way faster than quarts and are easier to wield in a SAB.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22601023
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Re: What is happening in this jar? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26809017 - 07/07/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I saw a mushroom farm that was using something similar to d3monic's agar hole punches to inoculate bags. They just used the 1/4" punch to make a ton of circles on the plate and lifted a bunch of the little circles into the bag and shake. I have no idea where I saw it but it was a cool video, I think it was a Hispanic looking lady if I remember right. Just another way you could transfer a plate to grain.
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