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MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help.
    #26779427 - 06/24/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The instructions that came with the MegaYouGrow kit from you know who. The instructions are garbage, so I put off putting it together until I had more time only to find out that the Bag of Colonized substrate may be sitting in the fridge for too long (since Dec - but it looks good still).

I'm invested in this thing tho.. I may as well put it together while at the same time looking for another option and having both of them running at once.

This stuff is medicine to me now and I need to take it regularly and can't afford it.. so I gotta grow it.

Can I get some help guys? I know some of the steps in these instructions are crap because I've been reading the forum here and I'm not sure what I should do at this point..  other than buying some other kit from somewhere else, I am NOT good at this sort of thing, after I get it going I should be fine but its sorta Greek to me. I did jars like 10 years ago and it didn't turn out so I'm lacking confidence right now.

Thanks.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: FunnyBeaver]
    #26779433 - 06/24/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

what exactly is the kit?  kits are usually garbage and a supplement for learning and knowledge


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: TedsDead]
    #26780336 - 06/24/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Should be pretty straight forward, it looks/sounds like spawn bags come fully colonized, comes with a monotub. So you should really just need to mix the straw and "soil" together in the tub, hydrate it, add the spawn, and let it grow. If you had any of the kit or all of the kit in the fridge since December, it should be fine. Can you post a picture of the instructions?


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #26782036 - 06/25/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Damn, thats an expensive kit.    Agreed,  what are the instructions?  Sounds like it should be as easy as mixing all the ingredients together in the "mixing bag" and dumping it in the tub(complete with lid)


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: TedsDead]
    #26782053 - 06/25/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

6 months is a long time for colonized grains to sit in a refrigerator but it could be ok. While you are figuring out the exact steps you might consider taking it out of the cold.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: TedsDead]
    #26782212 - 06/25/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Here are the instructions and my bag of my spawn.












Looking at the first steps (for the first time since January) I'm realizing that the reason I lost confidence in my ability to do this properly is because of some lack of clarification in the steps.


I think I'm going to get on the pasteurization steps (that was another thing that jammed me up.. you should see the size of the bag they expect you to have a pot to sterilize it in.. what I NEED to do is do it in two steps basically.. no one I know even has a pot big enough for the straw)

But because of what I've read, I have heard that SOME of the steps in these instructions are nonsense and can even jam your process up.. so if you could take a look at them and let me know what you think.. let me know if there is anything I should know about their steps before I screw this whole thing up, that would be freaking awesome of you.

In the meantime, I'm also probably going to look for another way to do this. Although .. what do you think? If this pans out properly.. shouldn't I be able to get spore prints and use those for the 'next batch' .. saving myself some cash in the process? Although if this fails I'll be ordering dried again for another couple months and I don't want to go through that, so what do you think?

Thanks guy, I REALLY appreciate this.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #26782228 - 06/25/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Omg it probably IS straight forward but the lack of clarification in the instructions, the fact that they didn't tell me I would need a pot that could fit a basketball sized object in it, the fact that they didn't even tell me there was material in the box that needed to be refrigerated immediately (I was busy, I got lucky by checking out the inside of the box and finding the label on the spawn box and acting right away, but I was tempted to just put the box I got away for a couple weeks while I dealt with the holidays - bad timing on the purchase but also a bad purchase probably) ... I've just lost confidence in my ability to do this properly because of these factors, so I've posted the instructions and probably the only hickup at this stage in the game is that I'll need to sterilize the straw in two parts I guess.

Instructions posted. Thanks for the help btw.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: FunnyBeaver]
    #26799065 - 07/02/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry i haven't been on in a minute!

Honestly, the directions are pretty decent. They left off a few minor details like needing a big stock pot because you'll have to find something that works for you. The exact container doesn't matter, as long as everything fits in it. They can only hold your hand so much!

Only major offender is temperature, IMO. They don't cover enough about misting/not misting, which is a learned skill anyway but still important to cover. It's okay to let the substrate dry out a little, and you don't necessarily need to mist daily, as long as your substrate looks damp. Think soil after a light sprinkle.

About sterilization, that kit doesn't need sterilization, just pasteurization. Similar process of adding heat for a certain amount of time, but pasteurization happens between 140-160F. Sterilization is 180F++. Their process of pasteurization is fine.

About refrigeration, they probably left that out because most people would use it inside of 4 weeks of receiving the kit, which is totally fine. You did get lucky by putting it in the fridge, since you've had it sit for so long.

You don't need to sterilize the spoon before mixing the spawn. When spawn is fully colonized, it doesn't matter what you use to break it up/mix with substrate.

Once the spawn and substrate is mixed, you want it to have light at all stages (they did say add light on a 12/12 cycle under D - Fruiting). Dark places are outdated, and make your mushrooms grow in really funky shapes. Doesn't affect potency or anything, just makes it harder to harvest a knot of mushrooms rather than arrow-straight lol. They grow towards light, but don't need light to grow.

Here's the important one. 26-28C is a too warm, 18-24C is better (65-75F). Hell anything above 15C/60F is totally fine, but you don't want to be quite as high as 27C/80F.

Hella minor nitcpicky point, Isopropyl Alcohol = Isopropanol. So them saying Isopropanol Alcohol is redundant, like saying ATM Machine (automated teller machine machine). Lol. The -ol at the end of Isopropanol tells you it's an alcohol.

I'm not a fan of the twist and pull method of harvesting, because sometimes you pull up a lot of substrate, and the mycelium takes longer to recover before the next flush. But that's 100% preference.

About spore prints/next batch. You certainly can and should print some caps, which will require some more tools. It's a very easy process, and there are many teks around about how to do it. The only difficulty, is from there, you will need to either make syringes which are inherently dirty and can have issues, or you step into the agar arena and get deep into the hobby. That's a whole other thread lol.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #26799127 - 07/02/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Since you already have a colonized bag of grain you can just go buy a couple bricks of coir from a pet store and a bag of vermiculite. Check out the "Bucket TEK" and prep your coir that way, using a bucket or a cooler or whatever. Coir is very contam resistant if you have clean grain spawn, straw needs to be properly pasteurized for it to work out and honestly coir is better that straw for cubes.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26799267 - 07/02/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

^^^yep.

You could even just open the bag and pour some coir on top and fruit it like that.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: A.k.a]
    #26800331 - 07/02/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If theyre selling the kit for 200$ that shit better be pasteurized!!!:megacrankey:


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: TedsDead]
    #26800377 - 07/02/20 09:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

likely won't even harvest 200$ worth, they must be making a killing. Fuck man, that bag is less than a dollar's worth of grain.

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Review: Got à pound and half of mushrooms :smile: made my summer parties a hit :p , so easy and fast to use I bought 3 and have them on cycles so I get 3 pounds a month . And with the kits it's so simple and awsome"

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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26800439 - 07/02/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

lol they need to make it

“got a pound and a half of mushrooms*, made parties a hit”
                                     
          *may have been wet and still attached to the sub, results may vary.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: A.k.a]
    #26800450 - 07/02/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah man, if anyone who bought a kit was skilled enough to get 3lbs/month from them they'd already be producing their own spawn and therefore would not be buying kits:shrug: lelz


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26801415 - 07/03/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So the kit purports to be Stropharia Cubensis Cuban spawn. Wasn't stropharia the name like a hundred years ago or something?


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: MLPismyOPSEC]
    #26808930 - 07/07/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You guys are so awesome. That's all I wanted/needed was some expert opinions on the instructions and I couldn't be more prepped to do this now. However, I also bought a pressure cooker and some mason jars because.. I'm going to employ the other method everyone uses as well. I just didn't want the kit to go completely to waste, at the least its a learning experience, at best, I'll get a crop I can make prints with maybe??

Anyways, thanks again guys. I'll let you know how it goes. :smile:

Edit: It is done. I had to do like.. 6 separate pots of straw, took all day, and I doubt I achieved pasteurization (its just too messy a job) ... but we'll see. Other than that, I'm going to get the other method started up asap.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: FunnyBeaver]
    #26808972 - 07/07/20 12:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sweet. Definitely take some spore prints to make sure you can fully start over without having to order spores and you can also trade with people when you want to grow a different variety.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26809030 - 07/07/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

One day I’m going to make a grow kit that will actually have a decent success rate and instructions not written by morons. The chamber will be functional and the media as close to axenic as possible.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26809428 - 07/07/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

nah pasty you dont wanna do a thing like that😃 cuz then we wouldnt be able to read the same muh grow kit thread every 3 days😂😂😂 and op im sorry but u said it didnt say nothin about a giant pot in it?? what about the giant drawing of it?? but hope ul learn fro this at least and invest in doing it yourself for a fraction of the cost and much better results.


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Re: MegaYouGrow Kit... I invested and now I need help. [Re: jcm4620]
    #26810119 - 07/08/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I fucked up on the purchase. It seemed like a quick way to avoid the PKtek method I tried once and.. this method is harder.. moving to the other method this week, have both of them running at the same time.

And there are BIG pots and then there are FUCKING HUGE POTS man. No one has a pot at home the size of the amount of straw they provide. :P


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