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Offlineslutoni
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no tolerance from mushrooms.
    #26794284 - 06/30/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

you guys lied to me
you said there would be tolerance
long time lurker
ive dosed every day or every other day for 3 weeks
today i ate half an outdoor crop

there is no tolerance.
thought id return with my research before pulsating color clowns and mayan skulls appear.

love you.


Edited by slutoni (07/03/20 08:17 AM)


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26794485 - 06/30/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Seems as though youre loading it there bucko. Hang on.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26795056 - 06/30/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

loading?


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26795154 - 06/30/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Loading. I stand by it.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26796964 - 07/01/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

well the result was a wonderful 8 hour long experience and the best exercise of my life. it seems the more frequently i eat them the less of a runny nose, the less nut cramps, and the more visionary it becomes.

I'm not suggesting every day use, but I am reporting that the tolerance is not at the level that is described. the issue is people taking a lesser dose the day after and feeling the experience wasn't as strong as the lesser dose would have been on its own.

also mixing passion flower with mushrooms causes a really bad hangover type feeling. I've seen that reported as a potentiator but honestly it just makes you so tired throughout the experience that the mushroom type stimulation is lost.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26798314 - 07/02/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

"It seems the more frequently i eat them the less of a runny nose, the less nut cramps, and the more visionary it becomes."
My experience support your statement, except for the nut cramps - never had one. Plus it seems like come up become easier, though it wasn't like something to worry about anyway IME.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: MrStinkyShrooman]
    #26798369 - 07/02/20 02:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I intend to see how much exactly does the tolerance (that I have) affect things, since now I have enough material to experiment with rather than having every gram being a precious resource lol. But for now there's plenty of work things to do before I can spend some time on this stuff...


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26798371 - 07/02/20 02:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Oh no, you found us out, the entire community and medical industry going back to the 60s has all been lying and hiding the truth. But you got us real good. We surrender. You're right. You found out our secret, congratulations. There's no point in hiding it now that you found out. Tolerance doesn't exist. You can now trip whenever you want, and however often you want. Have fun.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: nooneman]
    #26800218 - 07/02/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

nooneman said:
Oh no, you found us out, the entire community and medical industry going back to the 60s has all been lying and hiding the truth. But you got us real good. We surrender. You're right. You found out our secret, congratulations. There's no point in hiding it now that you found out. Tolerance doesn't exist. You can now trip whenever you want, and however often you want. Have fun.





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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: Nobodycare]
    #26800240 - 07/02/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well oral DMT has no tolerance. And one can make DMT-containing Changa which won't have any tolerance. One may even be able to make 4-ACO Changa, however because 4-ACO turns into Psilocin, i'm pretty sure there will be a tolerance. There was a tolerance when i've taken 4-ACO a few times in a week, by the end i didn't feel anything. But with oral DMT, i took it daily/near daily for 4 years, i always worked.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: nooneman]
    #26801017 - 07/03/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

okay so why did it work. i had the hardest trip of my life on my last trip and I've been dosing 4-5 times a week for almost a month now.

you can say "ooh research shows"

but i just did the research and experienced it for myself.

have you ever dosed for weeks? if not, how would you know. What you're providing me with is an appeal to authority, but you've cited no sources showing decreased bio-availability.

I made a positive statement based on my own observations. you made a negative statement based on hearsay.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26802706 - 07/04/20 02:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey slutoni,

I think the tolerance issue is very personal to each person. I for one do notice tolerance build up, and I’m not talking f4om daily use, I’m talking weekly.

If I trip at one week intervals, the third trip is not special.

If I trip at two week intervals, I notice a drop off in “magic” after about three months.

If I were to daily dose, such as how PrimalSoup does through summer (he’s doing all sorts of experiments with the headspace, and also writing books); I would increase my daily Doseage by x1.5 each day, until as P.S. reports you get to a maximum dose of approx 250g, after which you will notice no more drop off.

OP, you may just be really lucky if you’re not noticing any tolerance; lucky so and so :feelingfunky:

Take care
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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26802963 - 07/04/20 07:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

i guess i should make it clear. I noticed some degree of tolerance. and i had about 3 doses after my first 7g dose that felt like what i guess was kinda a bad trip (no visuals, just irritation at other people for being outside and  "ruining my trip") but after like about a week of tolerance. its like it builds up and at some point the tolerance is moot. maybe its other lifestyle changes that im making like weight loss and increased exercise. but i am indeed noticing better trips every day. also can you tell me; are there any dangers to posting pictures on here?

I've got some beautiful mushroom porn from a unique tek to share but im afraid of potential legal issues; i notice most pictures on this site seem to eventually get deleted


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26803034 - 07/04/20 08:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Got you on the tolerance question :thumbup:

Regarding pictures, I was nervous at first, but been here 4 years with no come back. It’s a pretty safe decent place if you’re sensible with the pictures - nothing identifiable.

DJ Ed


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: slutoni]
    #26803096 - 07/04/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

slutoni said:
okay so why did it work. i had the hardest trip of my life on my last trip and I've been dosing 4-5 times a week for almost a month now.

you can say "ooh research shows"

but i just did the research and experienced it for myself.

have you ever dosed for weeks? if not, how would you know. What you're providing me with is an appeal to authority, but you've cited no sources showing decreased bio-availability.






You be the one in a million, bro.  Or maybe one in a thousand, dunno.  Most people do get tolerance reliably.

And yeah I have dosed daily for weeks and I always get tolerance, up to a point where it stops increasing at about 5 times a normal dose. :shrug:

So maybe your point where that happens is a lot closer to your regular dose.  :snoopyes:
 
And post your mushroom porn, that's what people like to see.  Try this 5000 page thread, among others:  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21171549


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Edited by PrimalSoup (07/04/20 09:00 AM)


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26804541 - 07/05/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Tolerance is like that episode of jimmy Neutron where every day is his birthday and then he just gets tired of it.

Thats essentially whats going on here

Once you've taken mushrooms too many times and understand what they are about then you get jaded...

What makes mushrooms powerful is being sober for a long time and then getting blasted into another dimension.

But if you never leave the dimension then you don't really blast off because you're already there.

You can't leave earth from outer space.
you're gona have to come back to earth sooner or later.


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: jarjarbic]
    #26804543 - 07/05/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I love the analogy, brother :thumbup:

DJ Ed


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: jarjarbic]
    #26805373 - 07/05/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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jarjarbic said:


Once you've taken mushrooms too many times and understand what they are about then you get jaded...







If that's your mind set than yeah that's what you get. 

But it doesn't have to be your mind set, that's the immensely freeing aspect of tripping many times and really learning what they really can do. :snoopyes:


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Re: no tolerance from mushrooms. [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26806354 - 07/06/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I suffer cronic pain from a back injury and I often take mushrooms on a daily basis to help control the pain. When I started out researching, people claimed all sorts of "tolerance limiting schedules", but I've found that other peoples advice for my use was always wrong.

From my experience I notice little to no tolorence either at low or high doeses after dosing every day. Even after extended periods of every day dosing. Psychedelics are different than other drugs.


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