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OfflineTripleB
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Methanol Extraction Tek?
    #2679411 - 05/14/04 08:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

is there a Methanol Extraction Tek?

and i got laughed at before because i said i have methanol and it is BLUE, and they told me it was windhsield washing fluid and it says right on the gallon jug METHANOL ... plus i baught it from an autoparts store and i know the owner VERY WELL, i have baught this before and used it in my carbs for 4wheelers and snowmobiles... so i know its methanol, ANYWAYS, is there a tek out there? ive searched and found only ALCOHAL and METHANOL IS WAY CHEAPER! thanx


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2679781 - 05/14/04 09:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

never herd of useing it for mushrooms to be honest, but I've herd of useing it for other extractions.


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2679828 - 05/14/04 09:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT ANYTHING YOU READ!
METHANOL IS HIGHLY DANGEROUS CAUSES BLINDING!!! IF ITS BLUE ITS DENATURED WHICH MEANS POISONS ARE ADDED SO PEOPLE DONT DRINK IT!!! I REPEAT DONT DRINK IT!!!

my grandma just died about an hour ago and i dont think you want to as well!

if you wanna try making a tincture, use straight up moonshine. MAKE SURE ITS NOT DENATURED!


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2679831 - 05/14/04 09:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ethenol is what you want not methenol!


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: berto23]
    #2679916 - 05/14/04 10:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yes I work with chemicals (Chemical Inspector), And methanol is a clear chemical so if it is blue then it has additives in it. Methanol is added to Ethanol to make it Denatured Ethanol (which means its non-drinking alcohol). MEOH short for Methanol causes Blindness if ingested. You want to use Grain Alcohol, you can get at a Liquor Store, also known as everclear.... I know what I'm talking about, If you do use Methanol you must make sure that the methanol has evaporated completely as it leaves no residue to hurt you. Just use Ethanol much safer for an extraction.......


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2679998 - 05/14/04 10:30 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I wasn't laughing at you but the truth hasn't changed. Methanol is not blue. What you have at least has dye in it if not other things. Click the above link for some info on methanol. Methanol is colorless.

You can use methanol to extract but with two very important requirements:
1. It must be pure.
2. It must be evaporated completely from the extract.

If these requirements aren't met, the extract could be very dangerous to use.

Do a search in the advanced cult forum for methanol extraction. There's plenty of threads. This is a somewhat recent and popular thread that discusses it.

Good luck.


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2680019 - 05/14/04 10:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i used everclear before, here's the result of 8g after a soak and evaporation-



me and a friend tripped pretty good off it.
i wouldn't use methanol from anywhere but a chem supply house.
you only need like 3-4oz to do like 10g anyway, not that expensive :stoned:


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: John]
    #2680057 - 05/14/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I may not know much about growing but I do know alot about chemicals.


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2680099 - 05/14/04 10:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

More of an understanding of polar and non-polar solvents is needed before experimenting with any type of extraction, as well as cell wall permeability. Nothing good can come from experimentation or half hazard cooked up ideas without knowledge. This would not only attract more attention from a federal level due to deaths and serious illnesses, it would destroy think tanks such as the shroomery due to scrutiny. Although possible, if this is a community of learning, practice some discretion on advising anyone without a VERY sound knowledge foundation and experience. Keep it simple and use the old fashion recipes listed or dry and capsule at the most. IMHO, but in the end it will be your health and in the case of methanol, loss of vision and liver damage (regardless of evaporation due to many commercial products containing non active ingredients that can form a residue bound to methanol molecules after evaporation, but released with an ion substitution in the body).
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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2680324 - 05/15/04 12:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thank u all for the feedback, u are always helpful :laugh: i will not be using methanol,and will tell my buddies the same lol... we'll stick with the 4wheelers eh? lol.. thanks alot


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2680483 - 05/15/04 01:00 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

what is methanol extraction??


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: Cornelius]
    #2680504 - 05/15/04 01:05 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

cornelius, just disregard this post lol its not for u lol.. if u ever hear EXTRACTION just think of MOONSHINE ok? lol or EVERCLEAR ALCOHAL... never methanol


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2680511 - 05/15/04 01:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

just curious...I don't mess with shit that can kill me or seriously harm me...


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: Cornelius]
    #2681021 - 05/15/04 03:23 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: matts]
    #2681029 - 05/15/04 03:26 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2681285 - 05/15/04 05:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

FYI The windshield wiper fluid is probably 70% methanol. To get anything usable from it would require distillation. Figure on spending several hundred dollars for the labglass.


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: hedonist_rex]
    #2681291 - 05/15/04 05:41 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Actually you can get a very nice distilling set from ebay for around $100 :smile:


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: DrinkAbsinthe]
    #2681305 - 05/15/04 05:50 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I sell extraction methanol at my work ( a hydroponics store) which is 96% Methanol, 2% Almond Oil and 2% Cashew Oil... would this be suitable for mushrooms? Its supposed to be for ya dope...
Also, anyone know what the 4% Nut oils is all about?


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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: Smiley_Riley]
    #2681355 - 05/15/04 06:30 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Methanol Extraction Tek? [Re: TripleB]
    #2681971 - 05/15/04 01:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ok new update people..... lol.. im one stupid ass mofo, well i just figured out that this methanol is in fact CLEAR, BUT!!!... the gallon plastic jug it comes in MAKES IT LOOK BLUE CUZ OF THE JUG!!! so if anyone goes and gets methanol, just make sure u tell the clerk that it has to be 100%, i have 100% methonal here, it is in fact A CLEAR LIQUID, thank you for all yur posts!


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