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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: bj247]
    #26791319 - 06/29/20 05:53 AM (11 days, 8 minutes ago)

To gain insight into delusion :jimmies:


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The actuality of all experience is like a dream
and in its momentary groundless gleaming,
undeniably perceptible, it is uncrystallizing light-form,
a deceitful flash, a diaphanous form of emptiness.
Yet delving deeply we find neither truth nor falsehood,
for neither present nor absent, it is beyond all conception;
we know it like the sky, inexpressible, unimaginable,
fundamentally ever fresh and pristine.


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: bj247]
    #26791324 - 06/29/20 05:57 AM (11 days, 4 minutes ago)

I wouldn't put it that way


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Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert.

If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to:
https://endofthegame.net/2012/05/09/psychedelic-mushrooms-and-you/
for some great info.


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: Tripliping]
    #26791327 - 06/29/20 05:59 AM (11 days, 2 minutes ago)

Suggest you read this book, and use it as a guide.

https://www.booktopia.com.au/psychedelic-explorer-s-guide-james-ph-d-fadiman/book/9781594774027.html

And take a higher dose (as per the book)


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: bj247]
    #26791350 - 06/29/20 06:39 AM (10 days, 23 hours ago)

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I have done mushrooms maybe 5 or 6 times with the largest doses being 20g of fresh picked cubes and 1.3g of dried pan cyans. And while the trips were great and very visual/euphoric I haven’t really got any deep insight or lifechanging moments.
I did these trips alone at my house and didn’t get the experience of thoughts racing like a lot of people describe, my mind is actually quite still. Is the problem that I simply need to take more shrooms?



Hi, You may be particularly lucky and well adjusted!
deep insights are a quagmire of delusion more times than not.




Well that’s disappointing. What are we taking shrooms for if the insights are mostly delusions?



Because we integrate those faux-realities with our subjective reality and get an enhanced perspective.
The changes from tripping sink in afterwards generally, rather than arriving as an epiphany.


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The nearest we ever come to knowing truth is when we are witness to paradox.


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: Northerner]
    #26791361 - 06/29/20 06:55 AM (10 days, 23 hours ago)

in my current afterglow, as I reach for my coffee, it is as if a red bird has waved his wings and picked up the cup with feathers to my lips.

this does not mean I am an enlightened red bird - nor will I necessarily wing my cup to my face ever again, nor do I remember ever having seen that ever before.

it was an enhanced impression among millions of fleeting - body centric - yet open minded impressions that I experience when stoned. I love the sheer poetry of existence more when stoned or after being stoned and having some afterglow.

if I were to cling to the impressions and try to force others to believe stoned out  theories it would be a pain in the neck.


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26791368 - 06/29/20 07:03 AM (10 days, 22 hours ago)

Thanks guys well said


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: kapellmeister]
    #26791381 - 06/29/20 07:12 AM (10 days, 22 hours ago)

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Suggest you read this book, and use it as a guide.

https://www.booktopia.com.au/psychedelic-explorer-s-guide-james-ph-d-fadiman/book/9781594774027.html

And take a higher dose (as per the book)





Thanks looks great.


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Re: Why are trips not giving me insight? [Re: bj247]
    #26792100 - 06/29/20 03:31 PM (10 days, 14 hours ago)

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kapellmeister said:
Suggest you read this book, and use it as a guide.

https://www.booktopia.com.au/psychedelic-explorer-s-guide-james-ph-d-fadiman/book/9781594774027.html

And take a higher dose (as per the book)





Thanks looks great.




Highly suggest this book.

Not all trips are going to "enlighten" you.
Keep at it.
Keep working on yourself where you need to.
Remain open to each trip as you take it.
And, like suggested,
Take a higher dose.

In terms of "average" strength cubes, anything under 2.5g (25g fresh) can be very therapeutic and give some deep personal insight. But if you want something more reality shaking, you're going to generally want to dose between 3.5 and 5g dry (35-50g wet) (assuming average strength cubes).


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“It is important to expect nothing, to take every experience, including the negative ones, as merely steps on the path, and to proceed.”

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