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Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ * 2
    #26760967 - 06/20/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I found these mushrooms growing in a paddock in a gully. Sometimes there are sheep there and sometimes cows but none were there that day :smile:  It was a cold day and it had been raining and the mushrooms were wet and growing from rain sodden soil. In real they appeared much darker. Once picked the caps started to lighten but I had run out daylight to take good photos.

Stem (approx.): Length 5 cm. Diameter 2 mm - 3 mm. Hollow.

Cap (approx): Diameter 2 cm -3 cm.

Spore print color: Black.





#1 #2 #1 and #2 same print.
#3 #4 #3 and #4 same print.


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26761913 - 06/21/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Cinc or olivaceus I reckon.


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: xthrx] * 1
    #26762047 - 06/21/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks xthrx. I saw your post of P. cintulus the other day after I found those. A very nice addition to the NZ season thread  :smile:

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26775652 - 06/22/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Any further input would be appreciated.

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26775664 - 06/22/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome find Bagels :super:

Black print does suggest Cinc's


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: OOISI]
    #26775871 - 06/23/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

cheers OOISI

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26788169 - 06/27/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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xthrx said:
Cinc or olivaceus I reckon.




Does Panaelous olivaceus occur in New Zealand?

I was under the impression that Panaeolus cinctulus was the only NZ pan...


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26788272 - 06/27/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah bro, they definitely do.


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: xthrx]
    #26788671 - 06/28/20 01:38 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That's good to know.
:takingnotes:


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26789800 - 06/28/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

There is just the one NZ P. olivaceus observation on the inaturalist website.

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26790732 - 06/28/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ok cool.


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26791119 - 06/28/20 11:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the list Roger. Good work :awethumb:

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26791185 - 06/29/20 01:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

.

Edited by RogerTheRetard (01/14/21 04:28 PM)

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26791203 - 06/29/20 01:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think it's p. cinctulus due to the white stipe, perhaps it is an undescribed panaeolus


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Moria841]
    #26791210 - 06/29/20 01:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I don't think it's p. cinctulus due to the white stipe, perhaps it is an undescribed panaeolus




Perhaps it's Panaeolus olivaceus...


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26791278 - 06/29/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks Moria841.  Another pic from a slightly different angle. I just checked the temp for that day and it was 12°/10° Celsius.


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26791348 - 06/29/20 04:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Cool picture, did you harvest those specimens?
All 7 mushrooms appear to be mature.

The jet black spores will give you the go ahead since I hear the species does not bruise blue much. :shrug:


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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26791434 - 06/29/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

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Cool picture, did you harvest those specimens?
All 7 mushrooms appear to be mature.

The jet black spores will give you the go ahead since I hear the species does not bruise blue much. :shrug:




I collected all of them but only the group of three mushrooms on the right were in good condition. The group of four mushrooms on the left were old and in poor condition (4th image) with the caps being eaten out by fungus gnat larvae.

I will have to go back and check the area.

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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #26791444 - 06/29/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Bagels said:
Quote:

RogerTheRetard said:
Cool picture, did you harvest those specimens?
All 7 mushrooms appear to be mature.

The jet black spores will give you the go ahead since I hear the species does not bruise blue much. :shrug:




I collected all of them but only the group of three mushrooms on the right were in good condition. The group of four mushrooms on the left were old and in poor condition (4th image) with the caps being eaten out by fungus gnat larvae.

I will have to go back and check the area.



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Re: Looking for confirmation of Panaeolus cinctulus ID please.. NZ [Re: RogerTheRetard]
    #26791458 - 06/29/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

RogerTheRetard said:
Quote:

Bagels said:
Quote:

RogerTheRetard said:
Cool picture, did you harvest those specimens?
All 7 mushrooms appear to be mature.

The jet black spores will give you the go ahead since I hear the species does not bruise blue much. :shrug:




I collected all of them but only the group of three mushrooms on the right were in good condition. The group of four mushrooms on the left were old and in poor condition (4th image) with the caps being eaten out by fungus gnat larvae.

I will have to go back and check the area.



:borat:




I have spared you my best pic of the dead sheep but hmmm lol not pleasant

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