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Help me on my First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs
    #26791232 - 06/29/20 02:02 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I made agar in tequila bottles at 15gr agar, 12 gr MLE and 750 ml water. I mixed those ingredients in a saucepan and brought to a boil. as soon as it came to boil you pour it into your bottles then pressure cooked at 15 PSI for 30 min. then used my sterilizer as a 120-130F waterbath.


I then poured plates and set hot water on top. The hot water did nothing. I let them sit for 24 hours with no parafilm in stacks and the condensation went away. However, before i used them in my SAB I sprayed with ISO and got condensation on some. Next time i will not spray my stacks with ISO before putting into SAB. I wiped each plate down and dried so it shouldn't be a problem.


I smoked some weed (legal state)


These are the leftover plates that will get wrapped and put into fridge


I used my SAB to inoculate at least 10 plates of:
Amazon pes
Hawaiian PES
Red Boys
Ecuadorian

Okay i still find it hard to do just one drop on each dish AND I CAN BARELY SEE IN MY SAB TRYING TO DO TWO SINGLE DROPS. am I the only one who is like "holy shit, this isnt easy!" I have to hunch down to see through my arm hole and try very careful not to squeeze too hard and im successful, but sometimes I get a squirt and I just opened another dish and tried to pour the extra into the other dish. Probably gonna contam, but fuck it. I also got two different syringes from this source and one was way easier than the other. Oh well. I try so hard to do a single drop haha.

Plates at 77.










All I will do over next few days is maybe remove parafilm to rid condensation, especially if it isn't gone by tomorrow I will carefully remove all parafilm and allow dishes to do their thing until moisture is gone then I'll replace parafilm

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26791258 - 06/29/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Good job mate! Looking good. Visibility in a SAB can be a pain, I'd recommend getting a clamp lamp or LED shop light for sterile work. Game changer. I also used to elevate the entire table my
SAB was on with 8" plastic bed risers which put it at around shoulder level while sitting. This allowed me to just stick my arms straight out with elbows sometimes resting on the edge of the table to work and do a lot less hunching. Good luck, and look forward to future progress!

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Rapjack]
    #26791340 - 06/29/20 04:19 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

just a lil trick i use to get rid of condensation on tops of my plates. il use  a very very light heat source just above the lids of the plates.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26791465 - 06/29/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just leaving them in stacks usually works for me. I’ll put an old plate or two up top and just let them take all the condensation.

Also you don’t need to store plates in the fridge, it’s actually better to leave them at room temp so that anything nasty shows itself before you go using that plate.

Spore prints are much easier to work with in my experience than spore syringes. I hate syringes. I’m hoping you get clean growth right out and you go on to grow many trippy mushrooms. But if you keep getting plates full of bacteria don’t get discouraged, just get a print. Starting with agar is the way to go though :thumbup:


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26791630 - 06/29/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ya prints are way better 😃 il see if i have any cubes left when i get home from work tonite. if i do il send ya one. im just not sure if i have any cube prints left. i think all i have right now is some pan alabamas but il check for u. and if i dont im sure someone will be kind enough to send ya one


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26791642 - 06/29/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

You can also germinate your syringe on some grain, then pluck a few individual grains out of the jar and put them on agar to get the culture cleaned up.

Pretty sure it was jcm who gave me the idea originally. Works great, I hate squirting a syringe onto an agar plate.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: metaphoric]
    #26791661 - 06/29/20 09:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

more and more people are saying this... I'd like to know what the super-specialists think


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26791689 - 06/29/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ya i do that if i have a hard time with germ on agar 😃


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26791708 - 06/29/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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more and more people are saying this... I'd like to know what the super-specialists think





Disclaimer - all of the following have been forged. For entertainment purposes only.

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Spore syringes make you gay. More so than just eating or growing mushrooms alone:




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Using spore syringes basically supports terrorism. How many middle eastern girls do you want to be maimed by your mush cult choices??




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Never use syringes to agar. Firstly it makes you irreversibly gay, and secondly it will lead to extremely low potency mushrooms...if they ever even germinate




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Roger Clemency is a d!ck and keeps misquoting people, sowing chaos and confusion




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26791718 - 06/29/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

They're all talking about spawning the grain you noc up with a syringe. That's not what we're talking about.

I'm going to ignore the fact that they are fake quotes and address the point I think you're trying to make.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26791758 - 06/29/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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ya prints are way better 😃 il see if i have any cubes left when i get home from work tonite. if i do il send ya one. im just not sure if i have any cube prints left. i think all i have right now is some pan alabamas but il check for u. and if i dont im sure someone will be kind enough to send ya one




Wow that would be really cool. Not expecting anything here other than y'alls help.

I'm going to noc up these wide mouth pint jars, I just bought WBS with a bunch of cracked corn and my dumbass didn't notice til I got home because it didn't list it on the ingredients.. Im just gonna buy another bag and buy a bird feeder or something and use the old bag for the birds. I don't save receipts and take it as a lesson. Birds get fed now lol

The tractor supply store also sells oats for $15.. Debating doing just WBS or half jars WBS and other half Oats.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26791767 - 06/29/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Wbs has more inoculation points but oats are basically fool-proof. I love oats, got started with wbs first.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26791770 - 06/29/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

your entertainment doesn't make any sense  :confused:


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26791795 - 06/29/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It was more about not using syringes to agar then about germinating on grain and then going to agar for trouble syringes, which I guess is what you meant.

The OP is probably like wtf is going on I haven’t even had a problem yet. I’m just here trying to hate on syringes bro, don’t try to confound me.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26791799 - 06/29/20 10:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

like i said would love to hear the experts on this... :undecided:


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: AtmozFear]
    #26791886 - 06/29/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lol about what though?


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26791962 - 06/29/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Disclaimer - all of the following have been forged. For entertainment purposes only.




Homophobia isn’t terribly entertaining.


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am I the only one who is like "holy shit, this isnt easy!"




Someone please correct me if this is awful advice, but if you squirt a little on a piece of clean aluminum foil rather than directly onto the agar, you could wet your loop in the foil puddle and then put it on the agar.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26791993 - 06/29/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Lol about what though?




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Capsicum Chinense]
    #26792023 - 06/29/20 12:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

As a true freak I suffer from no obias Phrontist :smile:

Agar back to grain (or LC or LI) to finish that thought, only now the myc has been separated from the bacteria that was living all in the syringe water, making it unfeasible to go MSS to agar in the first place.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26792054 - 06/29/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

heres a good example why syringes suck big floppy donkey balls



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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26792060 - 06/29/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

spore syringes make you gay lol i about spit out my drink readin that shit lol😂😂


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26792108 - 06/29/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Lol..I thought it was funny but I’m a simpleton. I play pool, shoot things with arrows, and grow mushrooms. Occasionally make bad jokes or hook up with questionable women.

And dude that’s the situation I always encounter with syringes but whatever you had there is crazy cool looking. Such vivid colors and the green to yellow looks badass on the blue.

Sorry ForeverGreen for kicking your thread off topic a little. I was just preemptively expressing my thoughts about syringes to agar so that if you did end up with a puddle of bacteria you didn’t get disheartened right away thinking you messed something up. Some people get clean myc right off with syringes but I always seem to get something gross I have to fight around.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26792877 - 06/29/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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heres a good example why syringes suck big floppy donkey balls






Is that a scene from alien? Wtf did you allow to come to life? Ahhhh!

Or is that the Hawaiian islands? Nice..

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26792880 - 06/29/20 06:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Sorry ForeverGreen for kicking your thread off topic a little. I was just preemptively expressing my thoughts about syringes to agar so that if you did end up with a puddle of bacteria you didn’t get disheartened right away thinking you messed something up. Some people get clean myc right off with syringes but I always seem to get something gross I have to fight around.




I honestly dont mind. Ive been laughing my ass off. Cheers brother.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26792886 - 06/29/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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spore syringes make you gay lol i about spit out my drink readin that shit lol😂😂




Well if i wasnt gay then, im definitely gay now. How to break the news to my parents.. At least they're divorced and my mom will support me <3


Edit: sorry for making so many posts to replies. I'll get better...

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Phrontist]
    #26793063 - 06/29/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Someone please correct me if this is awful advice, but if you squirt a little on a piece of clean aluminum foil rather than directly onto the agar, you could wet your loop in the foil puddle and then put it on the agar.




I heard you can squirt into a shot glass (lol) and use that with a loop

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26793066 - 06/29/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Anyone who adds pics of good weed to their mushroom grow log is alright by me. :werd:


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26793067 - 06/29/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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ya prints are way better 😃 il see if i have any cubes left when i get home from work tonite. if i do il send ya one. im just not sure if i have any cube prints left. i think all i have right now is some pan alabamas but il check for u. and if i dont im sure someone will be kind enough to send ya one




Wow that would be really cool. Not expecting anything here other than y'alls help.

I'm going to noc up these wide mouth pint jars, I just bought WBS with a bunch of cracked corn and my dumbass didn't notice til I got home because it didn't list it on the ingredients.. Im just gonna buy another bag and buy a bird feeder or something and use the old bag for the birds. I don't save receipts and take it as a lesson. Birds get fed now lol

The tractor supply store also sells oats for $15.. Debating doing just WBS or half jars WBS and other half Oats.




hey man pm me your address i got a extra gt print il send ya😃😃

and ya rog i fuckin hate syringes also. i almost always get some kind of contam with them no matter where they come from. but ya that syringe that made that green snot lookin bacteria on that blue agar was totally fuckn nasty man u should have seen it after i made the transfers that were drawn on there. i kept it just to see how bad it would get and my lord it got funky and runny as hell lol i may have a pic of it il see if i can find it.😃😃


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26793076 - 06/29/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

oh and ima send u a few sterile swabs to use to streak the plates with too. they come 2 in a pack they are sterile and sealed so u just open them and go to work😃👍


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    #26793166 - 06/29/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

JCM you bred the T-virus

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26793194 - 06/29/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

lol iv bred a lot if narly lookin shit over the last almost 4 years now lol. i think i have even invented some new colors too😂😂


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26794897 - 06/30/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

The only oats at tractor supply are yhe pride ones that everyone says not to use. Looks like im heading to walmart for WBS today and ill start soaking.

You cork soakers..

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26794913 - 06/30/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I don't remember what all's been said here but you can prep WBS real quick with no soaking. Check out Fooman's method. Real quick and easy. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8508523

I've also been trying no prep WBS. It's not quite as clean and nice looking as doing it foomans way (i rinse them before as well) but i have some no prep I nocc'd up 6 days ago with LI and half the jars are 90%, the rest just barely behind them so it definitely works.

The first no prep i filled ball qt jars to the 400ml mark and adding 7-7.5 oz water. Those are the ones that were a lil clumpy but are almost colonized now. I did a batch last night a little under 400ml, I used a leveled off 1 cup scoop and leveled off half cup. Weighing 275g. and 200ml water. They came out pretty sweet with a few small clumps.

If you try no prep you have to shake the shit out of them right out of the PC. And i gave them another shake this morning and one just now.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26794996 - 06/30/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I've used 2 bags of pride oats and I've got 3 more waiting in the basement. They work like any other oats. Why did people tell you not to use pride oats?


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: metaphoric]
    #26795043 - 06/30/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I've used 2 bags of pride oats and I've got 3 more waiting in the basement. They work like any other oats. Why did people tell you not to use pride oats?




Just something i read. A few people had no luck with oats and linked it to the brand of oats and it was the pride stuff they sell at tractor supply. The more i read the more i see people have a hard time with oats. I sometimes get a headache reading so much on shroomery and for one thing that works for one person, doesn't work for the next. It shows me I need to just grab what i can and get started to figure it out myself. I honestly dont know which direction to go so I'll just do WBS.
Ill grab WBS and saw some whole wheat berries online 50lb for $80 includes shipping. Im gonna grab those this week.

Also my case of 48 wide mouth mason jars just showed up. All i need is monotubs, coir, verm, and gypsum and I'll be set for a while.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26795074 - 06/30/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

$80 for 50 pounds of grain is insane and oats are virtually fool-proof. If someone was having trouble, it wasn't because of the oats.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: metaphoric]
    #26795089 - 06/30/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Would you mind sharing your tek for oats? Im honestly intimidated by oats after hearing such negatives on this forum.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26795120 - 06/30/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

All grains are basically equal, truly. You're reading too much into things. The only possibly tricky part is hydrating them. If you cook them too long they burst and turn to mush.

My tek is simple:
Fill pot with water
Bring to boil
Dump oats in
Adjust heat to medium, maintain a hard boil
Drain/strain after 40 minutes, stirring once halfway though
Load into jars once they're mostly dry
PC

The two main advantages of oats are
1) they don't burst easily
2) they dry quickly

I use my PC as my pot to cook them in. I fill it 80% full then add 10 full dry quarts of oats. That expands to 30 jars of prepared oats.
To dry them I dump the whole PC into a 5 gallon bucket that I've drilled a bunch of tiny holes into the bottom. It's really easy to get a ton of oats done quickly this way.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: metaphoric]
    #26795275 - 06/30/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I bought gypsum and wbs. Grabbing oats now. Im just gonna do both, but only using 4 lbs finch seed for some starter jars with the motive to go full oats. Since wbs has so many inoculation points I'll use that just so i know I get some spores going. On one of my amazon agar plates it looks the tiniest dot of mycelium has started. Here we go boys.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26797342 - 07/01/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Checked all my plates. Not a single sign of mycelium but at least 15 or so have contams already...

Gonna get ready to make more plates and inoculate some more... Nothing else to do other than prep WBS and oats but im fearing the worst, that these syringes will just contam those too.. Only one way to find out...

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen] * 1
    #26798161 - 07/02/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So most plates are still good and look like this


Then a bunch have a few bacteria dots. Yellow and red are the common colors.


And then we got this nasty fucker


I have a bunch of plates with this mold forming, or white mold with green in the middle. Not a single mass of mycelium so that just tells me to step my sterile game up even more. Im gonna use the bleach soaked towel method in my SAB next time and I just replaced my air purifier filter. They're only 10$ so im gonna do thay every 2-4 weeks for the fuck of it and make sure to clean it more often. I went thru the room with lysol again, walls and everything.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26800302 - 07/02/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Well here we go.... Third agar attempt. Will keep following SAB teks to a tee. I ordered $60 in spore prints today. Not sure what to say other than syringes and my sterile tek must suck and I am getting 0 results.

I have WBS drying and will PC tonight. Inoculate tomorrow. Dont want it too wet..

Im not gonna lie, im not going to give up, but I've finally hit the point of being discouraged. This shit isnt as easy as all these fuckin youtubers make it out to be.

"Inject spores into bag, put spawn into monotubs, harvest mushrooms."
Fuck you "like-smashing" pieces of shit. This is so much harder than growing weed. Fuck...

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26800456 - 07/02/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

man bro i am sendin u a gt print on monday when i mail some other stuff lol i wish u wouldnt bave spent so much $$


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26800468 - 07/02/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Okay I can barely breathe theres so much ISO in the air. Guarantee I'll get more contams. Here we go.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26800489 - 07/02/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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man bro i am sendin u a gt print on monday when i mail some other stuff lol i wish u wouldnt bave spent so much $$





I was told to buy spore syringes and all have been 0% due to my own faults. Im willing to suck a dick for mycelium at this point.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26800495 - 07/02/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26801007 - 07/03/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

il be mailing u a print and a few sterile swabs on monday man


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26801633 - 07/03/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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il be mailing u a print and a few sterile swabs on monday man




I appreciate it man and ive been impatient. I talk to friends who want mushies and it just gets frustrating to think im doing everything right and getting no results. Im not trying to be a dick, I just made a reddit post and got like 10 different people offering spores and went with the guy with the best reviews. Fuck the money, native americans would trade pretty stones and fish as money. Cant wait for my microchip, woohah. I have patience, i just didnt expect to fuck up this much with no results. Ive messed up weed grows but not like this. I honestly thought it was going to go easier than this, I know all the warnings about being clean and I fucked up somewhere. I'll get better...

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26801681 - 07/03/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Don't toss em yet, especially if it's only been 4 days since you noc'd em up. Germination can take over 2 weeks with MS solution to agar.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Sits]
    #26801764 - 07/03/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Don't toss em yet, especially if it's only been 4 days since you noc'd em up. Germination can take over 2 weeks with MS solution to agar.




I only tossed the really bad ones that are over run with mold.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26801784 - 07/03/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

ya prints are just so much better for agar man il be mailing monday


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26802488 - 07/03/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Im really hoping this is mycelium and not more fucking mold.




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26802517 - 07/04/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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And then we got this nasty fucker







Anybody please tell me what is this? Please?


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: 3some]
    #26802519 - 07/04/20 12:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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And then we got this nasty fucker







Anybody please tell me what is this? Please?




Edit: its toxic black mold from what i gathered on google. It eventually all turns black and releases those nasty fuckin spores and will make you sick.

Pretty sure its common black/white mold. You can tell because of the black spores its already producing. Nasty fucker. Im hoping the white mass in my last picture doesnt turn out to be the same, but i got a feeling it is.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26802600 - 07/04/20 01:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Forevergreen said:
Quote:

3some said:
Quote:

Forevergreen said:

And then we got this nasty fucker







Anybody please tell me what is this? Please?




Edit: its toxic black mold from what i gathered on google. It eventually all turns black and releases those nasty fuckin spores and will make you sick.

Pretty sure its common black/white mold. You can tell because of the black spores its already producing. Nasty fucker. Im hoping the white mass in my last picture doesnt turn out to be the same, but i got a feeling it is.



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Quote:

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Quote:

Forevergreen said:

And then we got this nasty fucker







Anybody please tell me what is this? Please?




Edit: its toxic black mold from what i gathered on google. It eventually all turns black and releases those nasty fuckin spores and will make you sick.

Pretty sure its common black/white mold. You can tell because of the black spores its already producing. Nasty fucker. Im hoping the white mass in my last picture doesnt turn out to be the same, but i got a feeling it is.




Side view looks like this?


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: 3some]
    #26802608 - 07/04/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes. I toss my moldy plates but from what im learning it looks exactly like that.

See how the ends twist over each other?

Also when I zoom in, you can see the black specks in your pic. Mycelium doesnt have black specks/mold spores.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26802872 - 07/04/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like mold to me as I assume you're not dropping solution on the very edge of the plate and this is where satellite mold colonies like to show up for me.

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    #26802911 - 07/04/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Nice thread, good luck dude you are on a good wave. :spliff:
syringes ain't that bad, never had any problems from vendors and making my own or maybe I'm just super gay  :shrug:

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26802918 - 07/04/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Im really hoping this is mycelium and not more fucking mold.







That is myc dude

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26803915 - 07/04/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Im really hoping this is mycelium and not more fucking mold.







That is myc dude




Haha i was told mold by other people. Im letting it grow out and we will see. It got bigger today and it still pure white.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26804375 - 07/04/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Following bod's tek for oats. Boiling another set now. One on my dresser drying and the one you can see now.


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    #26804576 - 07/05/20 03:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Haha i was told mold by other people. Im letting it grow out and we will see. It got bigger today and it still pure white.





It might be because the location of it so close to the rim, but to me it looks like mycelium. you made some transfers of it or just let it grow?

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26804579 - 07/05/20 03:25 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

well il have a gt print and a cpl sterile swabs goin out to u tom afternoon man ao just hang in there man and ul have some clean plates in no time at all


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26804595 - 07/05/20 04:12 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I wish I could get some prints, but the law in my country is just fucked up, I don't trust mail at all, even tho spores are legit in here.
had to bring some spores wrapped in a rizla coming back from UK.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26804599 - 07/05/20 04:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I wish I could get some prints, but the law in my country is just fucked up, I don't trust mail at all, even tho spores are legit in here.
had to bring some spores wrapped in a rizla coming back from UK.




Hey man, at least you're doing what you can! I actually stole all of these pictures, have been lying to you all and the only thing I do with spores is examine them under a microscope. :wink:

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Haha i was told mold by other people. Im letting it grow out and we will see. It got bigger today and it still pure white.





It might be because the location of it so close to the rim, but to me it looks like mycelium. you made some transfers of it or just let it grow?




Letting it grow to make sure. And that's pretty funny because a few guys even said "I can tell just by where it is, its mold." Then I tell them I used a syringe and shook the plates after sealing and they say nothing lol we will see.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26804608 - 07/05/20 04:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hah yeah, nobody would believe me I'm a scientist of anysort :lol:

its gonna be good :thumbup:

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    #26804611 - 07/05/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hah yeah, nobody would believe me I'm a scientist of anysort :lol:

its gonna be good :thumbup:





I hope so! Really makes me question some of the dishes I threw out, but fuck it. Live and let diiiiee

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26806145 - 07/06/20 02:34 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

More oats


Jars of sterilized oats. 24 more to do.





Inoculated jars and agar made with spore syringes. Prints from local trustedshroomery members on the way..
Thank you guys. I mean it. Thank you.


All the syringes from reddit vendors getting used tommorow. Cross fingers for success y'all....

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26810184 - 07/08/20 02:13 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

More mold. No myc. These are all from 6/29


Im now being told they all look like shiitake myc.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26810282 - 07/08/20 04:22 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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More mold. No myc. These are all from 6/29


Im now being told they all look like shiitake myc.




..looks like mycelium to me. :shrug:

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Littleman]
    #26810296 - 07/08/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Oh yeah that 4th one is green af and not a concern.

I just dont get why the rest seem like cobweb mold to me

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26810304 - 07/08/20 04:50 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)



I smudged my finger in this one. Seems like mycelium to me. It was fluffy and thick. All white and smelled like a bottle of pills? Hard to explain.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26810341 - 07/08/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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More mold. No myc. These are all from 6/29


Im now being told they all look like shiitake myc.




dude thats myc, make/take a new plate of agar and make some transfers :thumbup:
except the 4th from bottom right.

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    #26810345 - 07/08/20 05:26 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I just made 40 plates after inoculating a bunch of jars. Im excited. I have mycelium and my sterile game isnt that bad. Sweet.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26810538 - 07/08/20 07:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:pipesmoke2:

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    #26812025 - 07/09/20 03:51 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I took transfers today and my plates smelled minty. Been trying to figure out what that means.

So far im reading its Trich.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26812926 - 07/09/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

pics are better than a thousand words;)

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26813042 - 07/09/20 02:11 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I post tons of pics haha. Ill take more to say and post em.

Pics also dont smell.. I posted pics of my dishes and people said myc, but it smells minty. Ive read three different possibilities

Trich
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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26813432 - 07/09/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just get a clear picture up close of one or two dishes in good light. Are the plates you're wondering about germination plates or did you transfer into them?


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26816084 - 07/10/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Just get a clear picture up close of one or two dishes in good light. Are the plates you're wondering about germination plates or did you transfer into them?




Only for you baby :wink:
Transfer or germ? For you I like to leave it a mystery :PPP

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26816088 - 07/10/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Just get a clear picture up close of one or two dishes in good light. Are the plates you're wondering about germination plates or did you transfer into them?




Heres one I took yesterday you sexy best. Its hawaiianpes. Notice the droplets in the middle of the mycelium? Some dude say that leads to trich. What do you think. I germed this plate on june 3rd from syringe ms


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26816842 - 07/11/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm...I am pretty sexy. Plus I play really good pool, which of course denotes nobility and physical and mental prowess. Kind of a big deal..

That looks sketchy to me but I'm sending good vibes :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26816883 - 07/11/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

hey forevergreen did u get the gt print a d swabs i sent u


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26817451 - 07/11/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not yet jcm

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26817453 - 07/11/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hmm...I am pretty sexy. Plus I play really good pool, which of course denotes nobility and physical and mental prowess. Kind of a big deal..

That looks sketchy to me but I'm sending good vibes :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:




So far its fine and the droplets have went away.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26817499 - 07/11/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

well u should b real real soon cuz they were mailed out last week id thought id have them by now


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26817577 - 07/11/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Unless my room mate never gave it to me then nah they never showed. Weird.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26817723 - 07/11/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

well theyl b there


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26817852 - 07/11/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Hmm...I am pretty sexy. Plus I play really good pool, which of course denotes nobility and physical and mental prowess. Kind of a big deal..

That looks sketchy to me but I'm sending good vibes :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:




Also you say it looks sketchy. Care to explain?

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26817896 - 07/11/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It just looks a little too thick and rounded. It could totally be the picture man, I know you said you have an old phone and you're probably just as frustrated as me by these pictures lol. Once I zoom in it's too blurry to really see it, and plates can be hard to see into sometimes anyway.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26818070 - 07/11/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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It just looks a little too thick and rounded. It could totally be the picture man, I know you said you have an old phone and you're probably just as frustrated as me by these pictures lol. Once I zoom in it's too blurry to really see it, and plates can be hard to see into sometimes anyway.




95% of my myc is super fluffy and round. My amazon syringe finally got rhizo growth. On my Hawaiian almost every myc looks like thia. It's mycleium. I just think it's my dishes and parafilm restricting fae. Who knows. Its definitely myc I have wasted a few dishes based on people saying its Trich or mold because: it smells minty, its fluffy or based on spot. I have smashed a few of these white masses with my fingers and roll under my nose and it smells like straight mushrooms.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26824184 - 07/15/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty sure all my ecuador and re boy plates are just mold


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26824222 - 07/15/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeast? All of my amazons and ecuadors got this powdery shit going on.





Cobweb




Dish transfered from and new dishes got powdery growth


My hawaiians are the only ones showing consistent healthy myc



I have 14 out of 36 jars showing growth so im not too worried. I am going to use some prints and noc up some dishes tomorrow. I did 6 gulf coast dishes with a print and already have growth after 4 days.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26824268 - 07/15/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I think its mycelium, can't explain why it looks so mat like and a bit aerial, looks nice white tho.
maybe its quite dry where you are or genetics of different strands of mycelium dominating one another. don't wanna say some bullshit misinfo about this :shrug:
your transfer wedges are massive man, take small samples to transfer, you will isolate/clean-up a strain much faster.
and you should not take a piece right from the side of the dish. It might work but you are risking a lot.
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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26824277 - 07/15/20 01:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Im 6ft4 and super clumsy. Ill try to take smaller wedges. Ill keep em around and transfer some more. I just dont like the look of a lot of them.. Especially that powdery shit.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26824505 - 07/15/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Lol you can still get small when you need to I’m sure. Think about a grain of rice when transferring. I cut a little triangle, with the area I’m cutting from closest to me. The point of the triangle points away from me, I make those two lines on the sides then cut across the back which is right at the leading edge of the myc. Then I stab it in that wider back area and transfer. Hopefully that makes sense lol.

When you’re trying to clean a culture especially you want the smallest transfers you can get. I don’t know what’s up with most of those but there’s good myc on that last pic.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26824586 - 07/15/20 08:02 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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The point of the triangle points away from me




This made me laugh harder than it should have. Saying that a triangle has only one point, yet I knew exactly what you meant.  :grin:

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Phrontist]
    #26824985 - 07/15/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Haha yeah I guess I did write that in the most ate-up way possible 😂

My wedges have one point that’s more important and pointy than the others. We’re not talking equal sides here. More like a 3:1 ratio broadhead. But really like 2:1


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26825757 - 07/15/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I threw away almost all of my dishes except the hawaiians with clear mycelium growth, and one amazon dish that is still questionable, but i see outward hairlike growth. Guess we will see.

Getting tired of so many mixed answers so I made the decision to just trash em. Everyone on reddit is convinced that powdery shit is trich.

Doing transfers and spore prints tonight. Making agar plates rn.

And when you said the last pic had good growth. The last pic as in the jar? Or the last plate pic of the hawaiian? 

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26825881 - 07/15/20 07:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

stay off redit those ppl are almost all full of shit bro


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26825925 - 07/15/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well thank god for my homies on shroomery. Im using those GT prints tonight.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26826269 - 07/16/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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stay off redit those ppl are almost all full of shit bro




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26826314 - 07/16/20 03:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

sweet if u have bad luck with my prints and ghe stwrile swab packets i sent u i would seeiously review your sterile technique. good luck man and be sure to post your results 😃😃


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26826402 - 07/16/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I was referring to the T1 H last plate pic. If I’m not sure about a plate of my own in real life, then it’s mold. If I have to wonder and question I just won’t use it unless it’s strictly out of curiosity but if I need to succeed I look for cube myc.

That H plate is cube myc. Anything else that doesn’t look like that or similar just stay away from for a while. I wouldn’t trust other people’s opinions (especially not mine 😂) over the interweb. You can see these things up close and personal and there are a ton of pics on here to compare. With a standard agar recipe of LMEA you should be able to tell what’s what in most cases.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26827955 - 07/16/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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sweet if u have bad luck with my prints and ghe stwrile swab packets i sent u i would seeiously review your sterile technique. good luck man and be sure to post your results 😃😃




I saved the swabs for later and just used my flame sterilized scalpel. I like scraping the spores right into the middle of the dish, and it allows me to scrape almost all the spores off the foil. Im feeling confident in my sterile technique as of now. Im not stacking 20 plates at a time in the box for transferring or inoculating like I used to. I would still respray but it was just too much at once. I do 5 dishes and respray the SAB, Respray my hands everytime they leave the box etc. Repeat. Young padawon is learning. Ohmmmmmmmm

Also for some reason (drugs or my mutt human genes) when I smell myc it smells slightly minty until I smash it and then it smells like straight mushrooms so im going to stop assuming so much of my myc is trich based on smell... If its pure white then its myc.. I know thats not 100% true but its what im going by.

I have some dishes i nocd with a print and the ONLY white stuff growing is from the spores. :rasta:

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26827971 - 07/16/20 10:52 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)



All my plates about to get wrapped. Theres spore prints and transfers. This is after the SAB has been broken down and everything wiped down again before starting parafilm. SAB session took an hour or so. Grabbed a beer and took this pic.

Back to work! Time to parafilm all of these.

Strains I have of actual myc:
In jars: amazonian and Hawaiian. I think there is one ecuador and red boy jar that shows mycelium but not too hopeful on those.

Only 1 amazon transfer dish and its only for shits and giggles.
Tons of Hawaiian myc transfers.
Gulf Coast spore dishes transferred to new plates. Any spore sections with fuzz I transferred to new dish.

I inoculated Golden Teacher, Blue meanie (cubes), and cambodian from spore prints to dishes.

Love yall

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26828164 - 07/17/20 03:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

You should wrap them inside of your sab brother.

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    #26829018 - 07/17/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I do spray em down with ISO and soap mix then let dry before I wrap but okay I will from now on.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26831850 - 07/19/20 03:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I want to take a moment to thank everyone for their time and helping me get this far. Anyways on with the show.

Clean hawaiian plates T2 (T0 being inoculation)




Gulf Coast T1 transfers. On a plate you will notice an X. Thats a contam. Do i let the myc grow a little or just transfer whats in there to a new dish asap?








Hawaiian MS to grain jars. This guy had moisture in the jar and had beautiful white mycelium. He was shook a few days ago and before I took this picture. I continued to break it apart more after. It is ready for a g2g in a few days or I can spawn it to a shoebox. I vote g2g.


And how do these last two look? They also got shook a few days ago. I dont think its cobweb. They are all hawaiian except the last pic the bottom jars have amazon and red boy. Enjoy fellas.





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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26833310 - 07/19/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Well i didnt know youre not supposed to shake jars past 30%... I just shook all my jars especially the colonized ones and may have fucked them up.. The one that looked really good jar 4, its all wet with moisture and not recolonizing so I fucked that jar up. Wish i knew that before i shook them all... Oh well...

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26833534 - 07/20/20 02:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Generally people say not to shake more than once to not damage the mycelium, but 2 shakes before final shake to spawn isn't as bad as people make it out to be. If it didn't recover you probably had an unknown contam or bacteria in those jars before the shake.


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    #26833556 - 07/20/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Remember you are dealing with a living organism, treat it as a child :lol:
you probably can do many shakes but its just not worth it. it will take more energy and might stall the growth too.
grain looks good tho, judging the jars from one side through a screen :strokebeard:

nonetheless :thumbup:
keep it up man you are doing good.

about the contaminated plates, I would do it asap if you really want the mycelium from those plates. if you got decent uncontaminated plates of the same kind I would ditch the work with contams.
if no proceed with steady hands. good luck :spliff:

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    #26833985 - 07/20/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This is about preference, it’s not a rule. I like to have 50-70% colonization before shaking and it has yet to cause a problem.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26834421 - 07/20/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Okay I will let the jars try to recover before I g2g. And why not try to get practice getting myc away from contams. The more clean plates, the merrier.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26834520 - 07/20/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If you have a problem its because you're spawn was dirty, not because of when you shake it or how often.


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    #26835298 - 07/21/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They are clean and they are recovering already.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26839205 - 07/22/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If anyone remembers I made some WBS jars. Only 3 showed growth and the one that had the most growth was an Ecuador and I threw it outside after smelling it. It smelled like pure mushrooms. It was put under a patch of bark so if 8 water it everyday hopefully some shrooms pop up? I only threw it outside is becauze I opened it. I should have g2g pr spawned it but oh well. Im learning what myc is. It had the yellow spots that turned out to be myc metabolism but you get so many people saying "its a contam" so I just threw it outdoors even though it wasnt contammed..

All the jars I shook have recovered and I am going to g2g tomorrow.

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    #26839366 - 07/22/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

If I can give you some advice I wish I was given right when I started: follow through on an entire grow process expecting to fail. Post pictures if you want, get advice, get feedback, store that knowledge for the future. For just one grow though, keep moving forward unless a Trusted Cultivator says you’re in danger of contaminating your entire home. You will learn infinitely more by DOING, even in failure, than by constantly second guessing and letting others control your grow via pictures. Who knows, you may even end up with some mushrooms to harvest at the end of it.

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    #26839841 - 07/23/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

trust in dem mushrooms ! :oldman2:

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    #26841610 - 07/23/20 09:45 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I came into this site with the same mentality as the weed sites. This will probably be my last post. Take it easy and im truly sorry for bothering y'all and wasting your time.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26841905 - 07/24/20 02:14 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Im bummed the fuck out.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26841954 - 07/24/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

why?

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26842069 - 07/24/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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heres a good example why syringes suck big floppy donkey balls





Dude, at least you're getting some myc!  :grin:
My only spore supply (in Canada) which is now an ex-Shroomery sponsor (and for good reason) now sells syringes of straight bacteria.
Doesn't matter the variety.  Forget germination on agar, shit won't even germinate on grain...! 
All syringes I have from other sources though are A1. Clean enough to go straight to grain.  Though of course one should always clean on agar first.

But more to your point though, yes, syringes do indeed suck balls. But if that's all one has, they can – in most cases, and with varying levels of needed effort – be used to obtain a clean culture. But as soon as fruit bodies are obtained, clone one, for one thing, but also take prints and never go back to your syringe!


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: JoBloShow]
    #26842106 - 07/24/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

amen i still have syringes but i dont know why lol maybe ul see me on that new A&E show mushroom hoarders il be the guy in the chair sayin  no dont throw that out i might need it.  lol


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26843937 - 07/25/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I got into an argument with a trusted cultivator who convinced me to throw everything out and start all over again..

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26843992 - 07/25/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

nah bullshit man
you probably need to improve your techniques, that might be starting over again, not the point.
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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26844204 - 07/25/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to see your SAB technique Forevergreen. You seem like you've been trying so fucking hard man it kills me that you don't have mushrooms.

There are people answering questions on here all the time who have been registered for 3 days. I know they're trying to join in the mix and all that but they often don't know much or anything yet, literally never grown a thing just read some stuff (usually old) and then they tell people to throw shit away or to cover it in a blanket or whatever other strange thing without adding that they're new and maybe incorrect.

I haven't been on much and haven't seen where you may have thrown everything out on TC advice which I'd have to guess was good. But I've also seen plenty of people telling you things that maybe aren't so good.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26844220 - 07/25/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well like i said forever i said the exact same thing cus when i sent u a gt print and sterile swabs and said that if u dont have luck with that then u need to review your sterile technique cuz those prints were absolutely good and the swabs are in sterile packets even. so im thinkning like i said that its your process.

post your process and we can go over it and see where shits going bad on u. please include pics👍👍


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26844753 - 07/25/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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amen i still have syringes but i dont know why lol maybe ul see me on that new A&E show mushroom hoarders il be the guy in the chair sayin  no dont throw that out i might need it.  lol



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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: JoBloShow]
    #26845204 - 07/25/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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heres a good example why syringes suck big floppy donkey balls





Dude, at least you're getting some myc!  :grin:
My only spore supply (in Canada) which is now an ex-Shroomery sponsor (and for good reason) now sells syringes of straight bacteria.
Doesn't matter the variety.  Forget germination on agar, shit won't even germinate on grain...! 
All syringes I have from other sources though are A1. Clean enough to go straight to grain.  Though of course one should always clean on agar first.

But more to your point though, yes, syringes do indeed suck balls. But if that's all one has, they can – in most cases, and with varying levels of needed effort – be used to obtain a clean culture. But as soon as fruit bodies are obtained, clone one, for one thing, but also take prints and never go back to your syringe!




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26845225 - 07/25/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

This seems like a good group of people to chat with...no chodes.  Can you guys help me out with getting my current grow bags to the finish line with some actual mushrooms for a change?  Last time my tubs busted out and I lost them.  My bags look good right now.  I dropped some agar wedges in the rye berry bags a week ago.  I would like to send you guys all prints if these batches work out.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26845352 - 07/25/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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well like i said forever i said the exact same thing cus when i sent u a gt print and sterile swabs and said that if u dont have luck with that then u need to review your sterile technique cuz those prints were absolutely good and the swabs are in sterile packets even. so im thinkning like i said that its your process.

post your process and we can go over it and see where shits going bad on u. please include pics👍👍




The T is for teacher. From your prints jcm.


Rog - I have like 40 jars still. I threw out 20 questionables and have some im going to do a dubtub tek and bods S3 tek. I have a tray of agar with no contams.

With my last SAB tek I am yet to see a contam.

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My current agar tray. Not a single contam.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26839234
And heres the post I made where I got pretty pissy. I havent looked at it and dont give a shit. I said what I said and meant it. If im in the wrong then fuck it I was wrong and acted defensively but I also felt like dude just shit on me and didnt offer any advice. I cant stand that shit.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: WorkingOnIt]
    #26845354 - 07/25/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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This seems like a good group of people to chat with...no chodes.  Can you guys help me out with getting my current grow bags to the finish line with some actual mushrooms for a change?  Last time my tubs busted out and I lost them.  My bags look good right now.  I dropped some agar wedges in the rye berry bags a week ago.  I would like to send you guys all prints if these batches work out.




If we dont figure it out then I'm sure we can get you on the right track. Ive had to start over a few times.
Did you pressure cook the bags beforehand?

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26846620 - 07/26/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I was told not to post here anymore so peace y'all and thanks for everything.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26846649 - 07/26/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I was told not to post here anymore so peace y'all and thanks for everything.




Are you like 15?  You're handling this like babby's first breakup.  How dramatic and emotional are you gonna get at the people who are trying to help just because you fucked something up?  We all fuck up.  Grace is found in how we respond to that.  This whole act here, is not very graceful.


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26846809 - 07/26/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I was told not to post here anymore so peace y'all and thanks for everything.




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #26846825 - 07/26/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

you should start by taking smaller transfers of known clean myc. when u take big chunks like that if u have contams in there ur taking them from 1 dish to anothr. also i notice a crack on at least 1 of your plates. that can happen but uf it does and u dont have another plate you should at least put some mp tape over it or store it in a bag. just make some effort to keep shit from getting in.

also nobodys being mean to u here man. ppl r just tryin to help ya out. but if ur the kinda person who cant either ignore ppl or take constructive criticism then i dont know what to tell ya. ive been folowing this thread and even sent u prints and sterile swabs. so if that dont show you that ppl here will try to help u out i dont know what does man so lightn up and learn to  take ppls shit and start givin some back if u have to🤷🏼🤷🏼


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26847085 - 07/27/20 02:47 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26847551 - 07/27/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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you should start by taking smaller transfers of known clean myc. when u take big chunks like that if u have contams in there ur taking them from 1 dish to anothr. also i notice a crack on at least 1 of your plates. that can happen but uf it does and u dont have another plate you should at least put some mp tape over it or store it in a bag. just make some effort to keep shit from getting in.

also nobodys being mean to u here man. ppl r just tryin to help ya out. but if ur the kinda person who cant either ignore ppl or take constructive criticism then i dont know what to tell ya. ive been folowing this thread and even sent u prints and sterile swabs. so if that dont show you that ppl here will try to help u out i dont know what does man so lightn up and learn to  take ppls shit and start givin some back if u have to🤷🏼🤷🏼




Honestly I saw the thread were he started this whole thing. And everyone have just been trying to help him. Even people he insulted did not say anything back to him. He literally doesn't even need to take peoples shit, just not spreading around his own shit would do.

I think OP is having struggles with life and just projecting everything on to us. Still I hope he gets better and succeeds with his grows.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26847553 - 07/27/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I did PC the bags.  I used my flow hood to transfer the agar wedges to the bags as well.

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    #26848265 - 07/27/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I think OP is having struggles with life and just projecting everything on to us. Still I hope he gets better and succeeds with his grows.




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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Inocuole]
    #26848748 - 07/27/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Are you guys still up for continuing this thread and giving me much needed advice?  I don’t want to just post again and lose this group of people that seems cool and like minded.  I can start with pictures in the morning.  And then I can send prints to all of you after these grows if they succeed.  Hopefully decent strains you guys want...PE (nobody wants, everyone has), X7X, and SAT.  I am getting ready to try an RWR13 that I just cleaned up on agar.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: WorkingOnIt]
    #26849227 - 07/28/20 03:51 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you guys still up for continuing this thread and giving me much needed advice?  I don’t want to just post again and lose this group of people that seems cool and like minded.  I can start with pictures in the morning.  And then I can send prints to all of you after these grows if they succeed.  Hopefully decent strains you guys want...PE (nobody wants, everyone has), X7X, and SAT.  I am getting ready to try an RWR13 that I just cleaned up on agar.





Bruv why dont you start a fresh post so that its easier to follow your grow? As it is this thread is one clusterf*ck :laugh: I can promise you that a lot of like minded and cool people will help you in the new thread too.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: redhandmat]
    #26849404 - 07/28/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Will do thx

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: WorkingOnIt]
    #26849458 - 07/28/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26867520 - 08/06/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Aw man thanks guys.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26867524 - 08/06/20 11:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I have at least 8 dub tubs and 8 monos all with pins. I appreciate the help but dont get too self righteous. Especially jcm. The prints he sent me were super sticky and none of them germinated. Another member sent me legit spore prints that actually worked. I never meant for this thread to be such a "clusterfuck"

Good to see people who "had my back" act shitty. Have fun yall. I never projected shit on anyone except mushboy who can kiss my ass. You mush heads are just as negativr as I am, telling me to throw everything out and im getting flushes. Lick my balls.

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    #26867525 - 08/06/20 11:55 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Are you guys still up for continuing this thread and giving me much needed advice?  I don’t want to just post again and lose this group of people that seems cool and like minded.  I can start with pictures in the morning.  And then I can send prints to all of you after these grows if they succeed.  Hopefully decent strains you guys want...PE (nobody wants, everyone has), X7X, and SAT.  I am getting ready to try an RWR13 that I just cleaned up on agar.



Theyre gonna fuck you. Go to reddit. More help there and more positivity. As you can see i struggled everyone is talking shit. They'll do the same to you.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26867528 - 08/06/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Everyone but f.3 can lick my balls. Fuck you shroomery

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26867535 - 08/07/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Forevergreen]
    #26867538 - 08/07/20 12:13 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: The Fresh Prints]
    #26867588 - 08/07/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

well i tried to help u man i even went out of my wan and sent u a cube print and sterile swab packets for you to use. so 🤷🏼🤷🏼 i dont know what else to tell ya other than having the kind of attitude that you have twd everyone else will just get you told to fuck off. we dont want ppl like you here anyway then if your gnna act like that. i hope a mod sees this and bans your account for good cuz now your just trolling and trykng to piss ppl off


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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: jcm4620]
    #26867749 - 08/07/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ohh not a good look.

Sinnerman, where you gonna run to  Sinnerman Where you gonna run to
Where you gonna run to? All on them days.

Well I run to the rock. Please hide me I run to the rock
Please hide me. All on them days

But the rock cried out! I can’t hide you the rock cried out
I can’t hide you

All on them days

The shroomery is an awesome resource but it can take a while to get it down. Many people answer questions without ever having a successful grow. Give bad advice with extreme confidence, say things like Toss it, co2, h202 etc etc

That’s by no means a majority of this little internet haven but it does happen and you have to be careful and watchful of who you’re taking advice from. And it’s always just advice. Take what you like from it, research what was said, try to figure out why.

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: Roger Clemency]
    #26867901 - 08/07/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

basically none of these people want bad things for ya.
smoke some good MJ and forget the haters.
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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: F. 3]
    #26867960 - 08/07/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Like every public online community, Shroomery is not a gestalt. It’s full of individuals and full of their opinions. This particular community is heavily geared towards people who value learning as a high priority, and who are able to keep sand out of their cunt. You don’t seem to be either.

You want people to look at pictures and manage your grow for you. If it goes well, you’ll take credit and if it goes poorly, you throw a tantrum. Reddit is definitely the place for you. When things go poorly again, you’ll have lots of other whiny children to cry with. Enjoy.

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    #26869179 - 08/07/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

He needs to eat some fruit....

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Re: First grow. Spores to agar to grain to monotubs [Re: UpRigger]
    #26870793 - 08/08/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

People who make excuses for why others are to blame for their failure cannot achieve happiness.  Just putting that little factoid out there brother <3


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