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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26794202 - 06/30/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Which I did also, I used a slight top layer whenever I spawned. Whenever I spawned I used a light top layer of left over bulk sub just to cover the entire surface and any exposed grains at the time.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26797208 - 07/01/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Do you usually increase FAE when knotting starts? Or just when pinning starts?


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26797252 - 07/01/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Knotting. Once there’s a lot of knots I try to get as much air and evaporation as possible until the pins are in. Seems to make a noticeable difference in how many knots turn to pins.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26797296 - 07/01/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I'm seeing some knotting starting to occur in random places on the surface, not a whole bunch, but some in the corners and scattered throughout. I think it's been taking awhile and lagging because I had compressed this sub. Definitely does make a difference I feel timing wise. I can also kind of tell the corners are pulling away a bit because the liner is curling and no longer flush with the tub. I'm thinking that I should go ahead and increase FAE now? Or wait for more knots?


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26797408 - 07/01/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Either way, long as it doesn’t dry out. I usually see knots around the edges first too.

I haven’t done a ton of Burma but it’s definitely been slower than average for me. Like 15-20 days to pin. Always been potent though too.

Don’t worry about compressing it man I promise that didn’t do anything. Wet coir seems to slowly expand back to normal anyway unless you seriously pack it down. I pack my edges as much as humanly possible with no problems.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26797511 - 07/01/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Oh wow, that is a while for pinning! I need to keep an eye on the surface mycelium then, usually it gathers droplets like morning dew, but it is sure to evaporate and dry out by then if we're talking 2 to 3 weeks. I was thinking about giving it a couple pumps of mist.

Yeah I know compressing the sides isn't usually a big deal, and I did that on my AA+ grow. I was worried about this one because I actually compressed the whole substrate trying to make it all fit. I thought that maybe it had something to do with how slow it is colonizing and taking so long to even knot up.

I got a couple jars of RW that are just wrapping up colonizing and ready to spawn tomorrow. They're pretty much fully colonized except for a few top grains aren't totally covered. Hopefully they'll be covered when tomorrow rolls around, if not then I'm still spawning, I don't think a few fully colonized grains is going to make or break it. Hopefully my attention will be spared from the Burma for a bit and focus on the RW, but I'm sure I'm going to be glued like a hawk to both. This is first time I'm actually cultivating 2 different tubs at the same time! Hopefully I'm not going to feel in over my head like you did at one point!!! Lol.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26797675 - 07/01/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think you should start like ten right now that would be perfect for you. There’d be so much going on you wouldn’t be able to hyperfocus on one thing or little things.  Plus you get a ton of experience and mushrooms real fast!


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26800918 - 07/03/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Whipping up some bulk substrate this morning to spawn my RW, moved my shoebox of Burma to a room with light, and saw 3 pins! These things look weird, like a cap on top of a cap - double dick heads.

And these came out of nowhere because there weren't any last night, but all of a sudden they look like they've been there for a couple days at least. Amazing how there are no pins, and then the next day you see a pin and the growth.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26800926 - 07/03/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nice. Yeah it’s always amazing how fast they move. With my last Tamps tub there was nothing one morning and I soaked the casing, came back in the afternoon to four pins.

Where’s the pin pictures???


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26800959 - 07/03/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm interested to see what your tups look like now as well. I spawned 4 days after you did with the seemingly same set-up (casing layer and tamped it down a bit). My mycelium is growing exactly like yours, I'll post a picture. What are you growing? Mine are Cambodian Cubes.



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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: SoupyGeorge]
    #26800962 - 07/03/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yours look great too man, perfect surface.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26800967 - 07/03/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Yours look great too man, perfect surface.




I can't take any credit for that. I just put a lid on it and forgot about it. Shaper gets all that credit for the bomb ass tek. Shaper's Shoes


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: SoupyGeorge]
    #26800985 - 07/03/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well you still gotta hydrate it and level it lol.

The put the lid on and forget it part is why I love these.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: SoupyGeorge]
    #26801032 - 07/03/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It's Burma. I will post some pin pics soon. Yeah mine totally looked like yours. But I'm in sort of a predicament now - I already had a little FAE going from a little cracked lid, but I introduced more FAE with a bigger gap in the lid now over the last 24-36 hours, and all of a sudden some pins have started. I'm not sure whether that has to do with introducing more FAE or it was going to happen no matter what, but I don't know which way to leave it. I'm concerned with the way I have it now that it may dry out the substrate if it's too much FAE. Yet again, that's how I did for the last 24 hours and all of a sudden there are some pins... So I'm not sure which one is best...?


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26801053 - 07/03/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I usually crank up fae right before pins start, but there’s plenty of air with the lid on so I don’t think there’s a huge difference. Plus like you said it needs more attention to keep from drying out.

I’ve had great pin sets leaving the lid on the entire time when I forgot about them too.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26801084 - 07/03/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The tek I am following says to leave the lid on until the shrooms are almost touching it, then simply pop it and set it on the tub and the shrooms will push it as high as they need. There may be a box style difference, I'm not using the sterilite shoeboxes I see most post with that have the two clamps on the lid. I'm using ones where the lid clicks into place but it has a slim gap all the way around. These bad boys.


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26801212 - 07/03/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So is the consensus snap the lid back on closed and wait and only start to open the lid and increase FAE when they’re almost hitting the lid?


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: SoupyGeorge]
    #26801427 - 07/03/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Those are the exact shoeboxes I'm using for my Burma grow!!! Sterilite purple latch ones and everything. I only got those this time though because the normal ones I get were out of stock. Honestly, I don't really like them, I like the other ones I usually use better. I need to try that tek though, Shapers Shoes, since I can get the exact ones purple latch ones it shows and that I'm using for my Burma.

Compared to what I use I don't like the depth of these shoeboxes, the lid doesn't sit on top of the latch the same way as the other ones, so it doesn't provide FAE the same way that I'm used to. Sounds like I should just latch the box totally closed and only open for FAE when they the mushrooms are big enough. One conflicting thing though that I've heard, researched, and seen pictures of is mushrooms that haven't gotten enough FAE, so how is this possible to just cut off all FAE latching it closed for almost the entirety of the grow? Is this what you guys are recommending I do? Snap the lid and latches closed? I'm having trouble understanding how this is a good thing and how it works cutting off all FAE until the very very end?


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26801448 - 07/03/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It doesn't cut off the FAE, the shoeboxes are designed to hold shoes quite literally so they allow air transfer so that the shoes don't get moldy. The lids do not completely seal even when latched. Check this thread out. Shoebox Varieties


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Re: Process of rhizomorphic mycelium to knotting? [Re: SoupyGeorge]
    #26801469 - 07/03/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I know that, I was thinking that it is just not enough still for the substrate and growth. So if you were me you would just totally latch it closed right now instead of already keeping an FAE gap?


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