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Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow?
    #26788017 - 06/27/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So I understand G2G is very similar to agar, and Im pretty confident in agar and agar to grain but Id like to follow a tried and true process my first time. Im doing a lot of jars so I just want to feel confident with it. I was reading one a few days ago, but for whatever reason I cant find it now. It was quite detailed and I enjoy that. Thanks as always fellas.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26788053 - 06/27/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Remove the lid of your master jar and set aside. Remove lid of your first receiving jar and place it upside down on the jar to the far left (I work with a line of receiving jars from right to left in front of my hood), pour about 1/10th of the master into the first jar, repeat until 10 jars have recieved a roughly equal portion. Shake jars and label.

Never pass your hand over the mouths of the master or receiving jar. Twist master slightly as you pour so that you don't dump grain everywhere.

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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26788091 - 06/27/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Good video bud, thanks for that. Im using a decent sized SAB, what is your normal protocol for sanitizing your SAB beforehand? The one tek I was reading was saying they leave a decent amount of warm soapy water at the bottom but I wasnt sure about that. I normally just use alcohol all over the SAB, was thinking about spraying a small layer of soapy water at the bottom though?


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26788106 - 06/27/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'll leave that to a pro SAB operator to answer, I've only ever used a hood so it's not my thing.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26788131 - 06/27/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Right on. I have an inline fan from when I grew weed Id like to utilize if possible for a flow hood. Literally just started reading about seeing if thats possible after your comment.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26788135 - 06/27/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26788404 - 06/27/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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CatsLoveHouseMusic said:
Good video bud, thanks for that. Im using a decent sized SAB, what is your normal protocol for sanitizing your SAB beforehand? The one tek I was reading was saying they leave a decent amount of warm soapy water at the bottom but I wasnt sure about that. I normally just use alcohol all over the SAB, was thinking about spraying a small layer of soapy water at the bottom though?




Used a SAB for a few years now. Moving to a hood in a few days. As for prepping SAB, when I started I would spray it all down with 70% IPA (table and SAB), wipe, spray down with lightly soapy water (like a 1-2 drops per 500 mL of water), cover the holes and let it sit for however long I felt like. At least 5-10 minutes.

Now, i just spray it lightly and let the air settle and then get to work. A lot of people are even having success with a dry SAB. So spraying isn't really necessary, assuming your sterile technique is on point.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: Gan]
    #26788436 - 06/27/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks man. Ya nowadays I was using it dry but being my first G2G, I want all hands on deck. I was thinking about alcoholing everything, and soray soapy water on the bottom and top. I meam thats probably best huh


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26788970 - 06/28/20 06:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wipe the inside down with one of those sanitizing wipes, and usually spray the soapy water inside, but really we get over neurotic about this.

Having still air in the house and hand technique inside the SAB is probably 100 times more important than how sanitary the inside of the box is.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26789026 - 06/28/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I use this expensive shit:



also here is a link to see what all the main sanitizers do:

https://ehs.stanford.edu/reference/comparing-different-disinfectants

you will read that other spores besides the ones coming from your shrooms are hard as shit to kill;  the shit mentioned above kills everything (maybe a bit exaggeration, but it's effective shit)


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: AtmozFear] * 1
    #26789092 - 06/28/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I’ve used alcohol, bleach solution, soap and water, etc to wipe down the SAB when I used to use one. What’s the best? To be honest I don’t know, what I do know is that if you are able to keep the walls of the box wet, they all work. Plain water can work (though a bit of soap helps it stick to the walls better). So I wouldn’t worry too much about that.

When doing G2G in a SAB I find the important thing is to have a plan. Know what your motions are going to be, set the box up to facilitate them and things will go smoother. Try a few runs with just some empty jars, practice the movements, get a feel for the height of the box, etc.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26789158 - 06/28/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I needed to read this thread because I have an unreasonable fear of G2G, since my last few attempts at it years ago ended in failure. I have some pearl millet I wanna test out, and I think my next lil' project will be making small 300ml jar grain masters (I have no quart / half-quart jars left, been a busy few weeks) and test out grain to grain on a smaller scale with those once colonised.

I've stopped spraying in my SAB all too much, just a spray with as little Iso as needed, wipe down, and thats it. I Focus on the still air, and as of late my contam rate has been exceptionally low, one spot of green mold on the past 50 transfer plates/no pours, and none of my grain made in the past 2 months thus far has had any visible contam whatsoever.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26789159 - 06/28/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I feel very lucky with my SAB work because I have a sauna. This means that I can get an SAB inside an SAB. Always had clean spawn, but I don't work super carelessly either. I wonder what my results would be like if I didn't have that sauna...


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26789167 - 06/28/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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p9hu7 said:
Remove the lid of your master jar and set aside. Remove lid of your first receiving jar and place it upside down on the jar to the far left (I work with a line of receiving jars from right to left in front of my hood), pour about 1/10th of the master into the first jar, repeat until 10 jars have recieved a roughly equal portion. Shake jars and label.

Never pass your hand over the mouths of the master or receiving jar. Twist master slightly as you pour so that you don't dump grain everywhere.

Check this out for visual reference:






I never place the lid of the receiving jar anywhere, I just keep it in my hand whilst pouring the grains and then I am ready to put it right back on.


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Re: Cant find grain to grain tek I wanted to follow? [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26789187 - 06/28/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I found a good procedure in putting a thin piece of tape on each lid, streaking down the jar so I can just slide and crack it open.

I've had bad correlations with placing the lid down too.


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