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But my point is that children who are sexually exploited at an early age often do not develop normally and healthily along several developmental vectors.
"Normal" being determined by healthy mindsets who will not stop at cutting the airhoses of those they disagree with, and promoting compliance thru fear of consequences.
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Oldnameforgotten
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Reminds me of "Brave New World". (Children have sex with each other for "playtime")
We are kinda taught to dislike pedos rather than just having it as known behaviour. I see a lot of people in this thread blanket-statement calling it rape here to make it easier to vilify. Rape is obviously bad. The discussion should be about consensual.
I think people who are attracted to young kids are just representing a common need in our psychological profiles to procreate with whatever we can before enemies get their seed in. A child that young could bare YOUR children if you have sex with it.
It could also be from an awkward childhood. Maybe you didnt have sex when young and you want to experience what it would have felt like.
Either way I dont think its objectively "wrong". Its definitely society-driven outrage. This is assuming its not rape and you discuss with the child what is happening and what sex is. We just live in a world where children arent taught about sex in this way. Probably because we hate pedo's so much. That and sex is a super taboo thing for some reason.
Cyclical.
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Oldnameforgotten said: Reminds me of "Brave New World". (Children have sex with each other for "playtime")
We are kinda taught to dislike pedos rather than just having it as known behaviour. I see a lot of people in this thread blanket-statement calling it rape here to make it easier to vilify. Rape is obviously bad. The discussion should be about consensual.
I think people who are attracted to young kids are just representing a common need in our psychological profiles to procreate with whatever we can before enemies get their seed in. A child that young could bare YOUR children if you have sex with it.
It could also be from an awkward childhood. Maybe you didnt have sex when young and you want to experience what it would have felt like.
Either way I dont think its objectively "wrong". Its definitely society-driven outrage. This is assuming its not rape and you discuss with the child what is happening and what sex is. We just live in a world where children arent taught about sex in this way. Probably because we hate pedo's so much. That and sex is a super taboo thing for some reason.
Cyclical.
Pedophilia is definitely a sickness. I dont hate pedos but they are definitely sick individuals.
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Re: Pedophila [Re: OOISI]
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Perhaps there's a 'cure'
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The cure is to not be pre-occupied with sex. Very simple yet very difficult.
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Oldnameforgotten said: Reminds me of "Brave New World". (Children have sex with each other for "playtime")
We are kinda taught to dislike pedos rather than just having it as known behaviour. I see a lot of people in this thread blanket-statement calling it rape here to make it easier to vilify. Rape is obviously bad. The discussion should be about consensual.
I think people who are attracted to young kids are just representing a common need in our psychological profiles to procreate with whatever we can before enemies get their seed in. A child that young could bare YOUR children if you have sex with it.
It could also be from an awkward childhood. Maybe you didnt have sex when young and you want to experience what it would have felt like.
Either way I dont think its objectively "wrong". Its definitely society-driven outrage. This is assuming its not rape and you discuss with the child what is happening and what sex is. We just live in a world where children arent taught about sex in this way. Probably because we hate pedo's so much. That and sex is a super taboo thing for some reason.
Cyclical.
Hey, "Might is Right". Compliance or do without air is the fear of God. Sex with kids is entertainment in a "Do as You Would Be Done By" world.
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Doesn't seem that complicated, mostly subconscious I think.
Pretty much this right here:
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redgreenvines said: the mind's afflicted behavior becomes a pattern, then, yes the habit kicks in
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But my point is that children who are sexually exploited at an early age often do not develop normally and healthily along several developmental vectors.
"Normal" being determined by healthy mindsets who will not stop at cutting the airhoses of those they disagree with, and promoting compliance thru fear of consequences.
I truly do not understand what you are saying here. Normal human development precludes later application to social mores and legislation. But no modern society condones the sexual abuse of its children. Why is this even being questioned?
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A good question is..
Because people hit puberty(the ability to have sex and conceive) around age 13..
The biology is there to allow a young girl to have a baby.. that might attract some men via natural selection..(they would term is as a young fruit or ripe)
The next question is.. how can ppl be attracted to prepubescent children..?
Why are they attracted to chikdren?
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SporeJunkie said: They’re fucked in the head. That’s it.
Chill man...it's just a personal preference some people have...we all have our own preferences...
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That’s true. I shouldn’t judge.
Markos is still hung up on judging a great time between consenting individuals as "abuse"; well, someone has to judge, why not me?
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Perhaps there is a professional obligation towards a certain analysis that is in play..
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A purist might insist that we are mature enough to judge for ourselves..But there will always be divisions of opinion I suppose, so what do we do? Try it your way then my way? Or can there be a higher standard set by 'Higher' intelligences; I believe in them; perhaps we can consider an electoral college, such as the one who elected Trump, to be an example of higher intelligence.
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It may be safe to say that the “higher intelligences” is something that can be removed from the equation. That may be the case.
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I'm sure there is a reason for everything and for all I know that may be it.
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Markos is not "hung up" about anything on the subject of pedophilia. You seem to be defending it. There is no legal defense for acting out pedophiles and it is immoral in the extreme. Pedophilic sexual abuse needs to be dealt with such that the offender is unable to be near children at all, or is rendered sexually impotent, or is isolated from society. These options are more compassionate social responses than the understandable violence that parents would understandably visit upon their traumatized and damaged children. Children are not developmentally capable of making consensual decisions about their bodies. They can be groomed which is to say manipulated but the result to their further development is severely interfered with and damaged. Child molesters are depraved and pathetic beings but I've never known any "sympathy for the Devil" to be extended to this kind of perpetrator from anyone other than the few professionals who endeavored to render them harmless.
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In the Big Picture someone has to make a decision whether the route we are taking in that regard is the better one. My guess is that you think it is.
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Buster_Brown said: In the Big Picture someone has to make a decision whether the route we are taking in that regard is the better one. My guess is that you think it is.
Thank God you are not the arbiter of morality, mental health and legality with regard to this. My thoughts are in alignment with all three and consonant with other professionals in the three respective domains of the spirit, the psyche, and the law.
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What is your criteria in judging whether a child(a being) can understand yes and no?
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I've always found this a trolling subject. Very few people support pedophiles but due to the grey area in the subject it quickly dividends those who mostly agree. Arguing this is a bad excuse for a flame war. Get smart guys and quit beating this ass of a horse
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Huehuecoyotl said: I've always found this a trolling subject. Very few people support pedophiles but due to the grey area in the subject it quickly dividends those who mostly agree. Arguing this is a bad excuse for a flame war. Get smart guys and quit beating this ass of a horse
I think objectively it is fine. But subjectively I disagree with it vehemently.
And I think thats what happens when the conversation starts. We all try to be objective as possible and pedos dont seem that bad.
But if it were taking place in front of us we would be horrified. Watching the manipulation of the child.... the slow building of creepiness....
But SURELY..... SURELY.... this is a taught thing. We are taught to be horrified by it. I dunno. Either way I'm still horrified.
Its like that bacon thing. Yall know that bacon thing? Some guy ordered a shit ton of pork because it was cheap not realizing he was only getting pork belly. So he made a massive ad campaign about how everyone should eat bacon in the mornings. Just so he could sell his bacon. Bacon at the time was a "nasty" meat that no one wanted. And here we are today STILL loving bacon. I know this story very well. I am 100 percent aware that I like bacon only because of some guys ad campaign. And yet.... I still like bacon.
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