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Anonymous #1

Can I ask a question about cops?
    #26755446 - 06/18/20 07:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Does anybody give a fuck about those assholes? Like WTF does protect and serve mean anyway? Run every plate 150 times in a row for minor infractions to turn into arrest warrants then eat donuts while someone is getting raped or run over? What is up with this?

A cops only friend is another cop huh?


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Anonymous #2

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26755553 - 06/18/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

police not required to protect

A small excerpt...

"In the 1989 landmark case of DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the failure by government workers to protect someone (even 4-year-old Joshua DeShaney) from physical violence or harm from another person (his father) did not breach any substantive constitutional duty.  The Court found that the government had no affirmative duty to protect any person, even a child, from harm by another person."


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Anonymous #1

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26755702 - 06/18/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well god damn Frank it would seem you are right. It seems cops only duty to protect you is if they do not have to protect themself first:



"POLICE HAVE NO DUTY TO PROTECT YOU, FEDERAL COURT AFFIRMS YET AGAIN

 
Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again Comments for Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again Print Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again
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Police Have No Duty to Protect You, Federal Court Affirms Yet Again
12/20/2018Ryan McMaken
Following last February's shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, some students claimed local government officials were at fault for failing to provide protection to students. The students filed suit, naming six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office , as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.

On Monday, though, a federal judge ruled that the government agencies " had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody."

This latest decision adds to a growing body of case law establishing that government agencies — including police agencies — have no duty to provide protection to citizens in general:

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.

Moreover, even though the state of Florida has compulsory schooling laws, the students themselves are not "in custody":

“Courts have rejected the argument that students are in custody of school officials while they are on campus,” Mr. Hutchinson said. “Custody is narrowly confined to situations where a person loses his or her freedom to move freely and seek assistance on their own — such as prisons, jails, or mental institutions.”

Hutchinson is right.

The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their "services."

In the cases DeShaney vs. Winnebago and Town of Castle Rock vs. Gonzales, the supreme court has ruled that police agencies are not obligated to provide protection of citizens. In other words, police are well within their rights to pick and choose when to intervene to protect the lives and property of others — even when a threat is apparent.

In both of these court cases, clear and repeated threats were made against the safety of children — but government agencies chose to take no action.

A consideration of these facts does not necessarily lead us to the conclusion that law enforcement agencies are somehow on the hook for every violent act committed by private citizens.

This reality does belie the often-made claim, however, that police agencies deserve the tax money and obedience of local citizens because the agencies "keep us safe."

Nevertheless, we are told there is an agreement here — a "social contract" — between government agencies and the taxpayers and citizens.

And, by the very nature of being a contract, we are meant to believe this is a two-way street. The taxpayers are required to submit to a government monopoly on force, and to pay these agencies taxes.

In return, these government agents will provide services. In the case of police agencies, these services are summed up by the phrase "to protect and serve" — a motto that has in recent decades been adopted by numerous police agencies.

But what happens when those police agencies don't protect and serve? That is, what happens when one party in this alleged social contract doesn't keep up its end of the bargain.

The answer is: very little.

The taxpayers will still have to pay their taxes and submit to police agencies as lawful authority. If the agencies or individual agents are forced to pay as a result of lawsuits, it's the taxpayers who will pay for that too.

Oh sure, the senior leadership positions may change, but the enormous agency budgets will remain, the government agents themselves will continue to collect generous salaries and pensions, and no government will surrender its monopoly on the use of force."




It is as thought they have no duty at all, and get paid to just be there when they feel like it

https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again


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Anonymous #2

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26755851 - 06/18/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Well god damn Frank it would seem you are right. It seems cops only duty to protect you is if they do not have to protect themself first:




WTF? No, didn't you read the article answering your question?!? They don't have a duty to protect anyone...period!

and who the fuck is frank?


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Anonymous #1

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26756190 - 06/19/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So what is that whole deal about calling them when you are in trouble? They just show up because it is a hobby of theirs to do that sometimes when they are getting paid to do whatever they want and sometimes that is to help if they are bored? Amazing to me people think 911 is a way to save their life when confronted with danger or horrible life threatening injury. I never had any idea this whole time people just show up to help when its like a bet between them or some shit.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26756759 - 06/19/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Ok anon 1, I'm done explaining elementary shit after this.

If you are seriously injured like in an accident, calling 911 gets an ambulance sent out

If you call 911 and say that someone is after you with a gun, police will be sent but they have NO DUTY TO PROTECT YOU IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO ONCE THEY GET THERE

Jesus fuckin christ son, think for yourself a lil bit


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Anonymous #3

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
    #26756907 - 06/19/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:fuckthepolice:


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Anonymous #1

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26758676 - 06/19/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I feel such an asshole. A punk little criminal such as myself should understand this huh? Maybe I truly deserve jail for thinking its normal to have a job and save some money and travel and meet someone and have kids and have a normal life and yet I do not understand the law and the fact that if I cannot defend myself against 50 armed assailants and I call the police like a little pussy and didn't renew my tags at a DMV in this state or my license is still out of state or some shit they can and will take me to jail even if I am the victim for showing up and bothering them with this shit and because of covid my court date is pushed back to 2021 and I can get raped in jail in the mean time right? I just abuse the system because of what a punk I am


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Anonymous #1

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26758677 - 06/19/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
:fuckthepolice:




Like NWA? Wow that is not too nice


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Anonymous #2

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26760051 - 06/20/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I feel such an asshole. A punk little criminal such as myself should understand this huh? Maybe I truly deserve jail for thinking its normal to have a job and save some money and travel and meet someone and have kids and have a normal life and yet I do not understand the law and the fact that if I cannot defend myself against 50 armed assailants and I call the police like a little pussy and didn't renew my tags at a DMV in this state or my license is still out of state or some shit they can and will take me to jail even if I am the victim for showing up and bothering them with this shit and because of covid my court date is pushed back to 2021 and I can get raped in jail in the mean time right? I just abuse the system because of what a punk I am




:hereyougo:  :hereyougo:  :hereyougo:


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Anonymous #4

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26760165 - 06/20/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why didn’t you renew your plates?

Goddamn criminal... your lucky they didn’t shoot you. You must be white, lucky you.

But, really I am more interested in what kind of shit you are into that got 50 armed assailants after you?

And, Post back after you get out, I am curious if you change your mind and find out that prison sex is not as bad as you are making it sound here.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #26763209 - 06/21/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

To answer the OPs question, only those who are still sleeping or have friends or family in a department have any care for police. We don't have peace officers anymore, we have law enforcement. Its very telling about their character when so many of them threaten to walk off the job when their budgets, power, and lack of accountability are threatened.

I didn't enlist locally because I couldn't see myself signing up with an inherently corrupt institution that was the polar opposite of everything I have sworn to uphold; that is the COTUS. I didn't have qualified immunity overseas and I did my job just fine; it helps to respect people and treat them like human beings.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26768206 - 06/21/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Cops totally have been dicks to me when they arrested me, they have saved my life at car accidents and in domestic disputes, cops have been assholes and some cops have let me go when they found massive amounts of marijuana on me because they just didn't want to do anything about it.


I think everyone needs to chill the fuck out and recognize micro situations don't affect a decision to defund or eliminate a macro organization that has done massively positive things as well.


Stop emotionally reacting, and start logically processing.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #26768980 - 06/21/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Logic and emotion are completely flipped these days.  It’s this new generation of participation trophy, entitled, spoiled little fairy shit brains with their ph.d’s in specialized fabricated victimhood.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #26769496 - 06/21/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Cops totally have been dicks to me when they arrested me, they have saved my life at car accidents and in domestic disputes, cops have been assholes and some cops have let me go when they found massive amounts of marijuana on me because they just didn't want to do anything about it.


I think everyone needs to chill the fuck out and recognize micro situations don't affect a decision to defund or eliminate a macro organization that has done massively positive things as well.


Stop emotionally reacting, and start logically processing.




what massively positive things???    Like filling US prisons with millions of people for merely possessing an illegal substance??? 

violating the rights of people on an everyday basis,

it's time to defund and stop with the endless stupid ass arrests that have no victims


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Anonymous #7

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26769577 - 06/21/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

A lot of the problem is the people who decide what a cops job should be.  Find a problem and follow the chain of command and it all leads to the same place.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26778223 - 06/24/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
To answer the OPs question, only those who are still sleeping or have friends or family in a department have any care for police. We don't have peace officers anymore, we have law enforcement. Its very telling about their character when so many of them threaten to walk off the job when their budgets, power, and lack of accountability are threatened.

I didn't enlist locally because I couldn't see myself signing up with an inherently corrupt institution that was the polar opposite of everything I have sworn to uphold; that is the COTUS. I didn't have qualified immunity overseas and I did my job just fine; it helps to respect people and treat them like human beings.




It has gotten pretty seriously out of hand


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Anonymous #9

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26785440 - 06/26/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I care about cops . Some are my friends in fact. They work 40 hours a week dealing with a lot of shit . Rapists , domestic fucks who beat women and thug criminals who like to kill when they can't break the law and get away with it . And worse , fathers who leave their kids in hot cars who die from heat , drug overdosed addicts who they need medicine to save their problematic lives , suicide failures .

Yes I care about cops . I like my drugs , I do them safely and as responsible as I can . I trust a cop to come to my need over a private thug who claims they will when they're probably untrained and unskilled to deal with criminals and are in fact criminals themselves who would cross me if they felt they could benifit from it verses a law that prevents me from being hurt .

Cops get it bad . People only care about them when they need them , then complain when they dont show up.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #26785450 - 06/26/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
Logic and emotion are completely flipped these days.  It’s this new generation of participation trophy, entitled, spoiled little fairy shit brains with their ph.d’s in specialized fabricated victimhood.





I agree with this 100 percent ! They're Entitled idealists with no concept of real world solutions that have already been put into motion . Lots of rebranding of things that exist already with the fake face of it being new and improved beyond the original invention ,  but in fact worse than the solutions already created for the problem .


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Anonymous #2

Re: Can I ask a question about cops? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #26785639 - 06/26/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
I care about cops . Some are my friends in fact. They work 40 hours a week dealing with a lot of shit . Rapists , domestic fucks who beat women and thug criminals who like to kill when they can't break the law and get away with it . And worse , fathers who leave their kids in hot cars who die from heat , drug overdosed addicts who they need medicine to save their problematic lives , suicide failures .

Yes I care about cops . I like my drugs , I do them safely and as responsible as I can . I trust a cop to come to my need over a private thug who claims they will when they're probably untrained and unskilled to deal with criminals and are in fact criminals themselves who would cross me if they felt they could benifit from it verses a law that prevents me from being hurt.

Cops get it bad . People only care about them when they need them , then complain when they dont show up.




WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT!?!
:trekfacepalm:

Look, not all cops are "bad" but do you have a fucking clue how many "not bad" cops is takes to cover for all the SUPER shitty ones? Way too fuckin many, that's how many!

Even the drug team cops here steal drugs, assume what you want about what they did with them, but when I got raided, almost none of the finished product ended up on the police report and only half of the plants were listed...hmmmm, I wonder where they went?

Ever hear about 1 bad apple spoiling the barrel? It's a saying for a reason

Ever hear this new one: "If cops didn't do bad things, people would trust them. Seriously, no one ever made a song called "Fuck the Fire Department""
If you don't get the reference, check this out - NWA

and this ain't the fuckin time to be standing up for cops so FUCK OFF!!!


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