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Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas
#26784789 - 06/26/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the rare event that Biden becomes the 2021 President, he wants to make masks mandatory for public spaces.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/biden-would-use-executive-powers-to-make-people-wear-masks-in-public/ar-BB160kBC?ocid=msedgntp
Would you support this? Is this even practical to even accomplish?
Who would enforce this, the fuckin' murderous cops? Will they wear them too? They better.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26784853 - 06/26/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Would love to see the particulars of whatever executive action he plans on taking, but as is doesn't come across as being too practical. There are number of public areas where maintaining social distancing isn't at all an issue. As you stated, how will this be enforced? Lot's of questions, not many answers. Guess time will tell.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 3
#26784857 - 06/26/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would support it. I don't understand the anti-mask group. If everyone wore masks and actually followed CDC guidelines, covid would be a non-issue within weeks. Instead, we have this:
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: One of Us]
#26784861 - 06/26/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thats what Im thinking!
But enforcing it would be difficult. Fines maybe? CDC workers? I just dont see the logistics. Maybe in certain areas like gorcery stores, malls, things like that.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26785007 - 06/26/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Makes sense. I'd support it. Hell, I'm wearing a mask until 2021, and probably past that the way we're going. Definitely won't be heading out on the town until 2021. My bank account has been pretty happy, now that I'm not dropping 200-300$ a weekend on entertainment. I'm a bit worried that once the Fed stops printing money, my investment accounts won't be quite so happy, but eh.
I don't think there will be any enforcement. It'll be like jaywalking, except probably without any actual potential fines. It's a symbolic move. Which is all that was ever needed, TBH.
The idea that masks are a political statement is absolutely retarded. The fact that they are a political statement is why One of Us's post is correct. We done fucked up. Canada closed the US border, looks like the EU might ban travel from the US. That's not politics, that's basic public health and safety for them. I fully support foreign nations banning travel from the US, even though it directly hurts me and my continued attempts to move to Germany.
One of the funny things about masks being political statements: I currently live in what was, until recently, one of the most reliably republican districts in the country. Also one of the wealthiest districts in the country, by average income, average assets, and cost of living. As of 2018, we're a lean R. Now, when I go shopping at my local neighborhood supermarket, damn near EVERYBODY wears masks. However, I work across district boundaries in a poorer district. Still leans R, but they can't afford the nicest things and still have some high tech industry to help pay the bills. Not nearly as many masks when I'm going out to lunch.
All of my wealthy Republican neighbors take masks and social distancing seriously. Not the poorer republicans where I work, though. So sure, wearing a mask is political, but it's clearly a wedge issue to drive the base, sort of like abortions and guns.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Kryptos]
#26785026 - 06/26/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've noticed a few stores in my area enforcing it already. Not allowing people who choose not to wear a mask to enter and shop.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: evlyshrooms] 2
#26788435 - 06/27/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with it. If your not wearing a mask during a pandemic in public when you can reduce your transmission rate from 16% to 4% is willfully contributing to the problem 30 states are having with record infections in states that opened quick and didn't wear masks and ultimately willfully contributing to deaths. There was 45 thousand cases in one day after places opened without people wearing masks. We were doing a little better until morons packed bars and other places without masks that isn't rocket science.
Cases are exploding and to help the country get over this quicker, recover, to slow this avalanche of COVID cases that represent real people's lives all we can personally do to help achieve this and save countless lives is to put a mask on when you're in public. What you lose from wearing a mask comes no where near how much this sets the country back economically, how many people it will leave hospitizalied or dead, the medical bills,debt suffering, more shutdowns all because it's inconvient to wear a mask? We have an obligation to all our families,friends,ourselves and country to wear a fucking mask. The only way we can reopen the country is to get everyone to do a very small part in wearing a mask when they're in public and there's people that just refuse to do their part in a national crisis we haven't faced in over 100 years.
We know what the worst case scenario is for not wearing masks, why is you choosing not to wear a mask more important then 45 thousand people getting COVID in one day? Why is not wearing a mask more important then doing your part to save real people's lives?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26788661 - 06/28/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes I'm all for it, liberal/leftist women look better with a mask on anyways
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite]
#26788689 - 06/28/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite]
#26788913 - 06/28/20 05:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said: Yes I'm all for it, liberal/leftist women look better with a mask on anyways
Yeah. You would look better to fuckable women if you were handing them several hundred dollars.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26789104 - 06/28/20 07:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My favorite pizza place has been sending nothing but hot chicks to deliver food lately. I know its off topic but theure all wearing masks and im further incentivized to get delivery. Is thisball coincidence? Or a clever ploy by the pozza industry?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] 3
#26789192 - 06/28/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well since you already like that pizza the best, if it were me I would be thinking, how many days a week can I eat pizza.
Hot delivery chicks is a great marketing idea. I would give them pepper spray and taser guns. It would still be kind of a turn on seeing those strapped to their belt.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
#26789679 - 06/28/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: I agree with it. If your not wearing a mask during a pandemic in public when you can reduce your transmission rate from 16% to 4% is willfully contributing to the problem 30 states are having with record infections in states that opened quick and didn't wear masks and ultimately willfully contributing to deaths. There was 45 thousand cases in one day after places opened without people wearing masks. We were doing a little better until morons packed bars and other places without masks that isn't rocket science.
Cases are exploding and to help the country get over this quicker, recover, to slow this avalanche of COVID cases that represent real people's lives all we can personally do to help achieve this and save countless lives is to put a mask on when you're in public. What you lose from wearing a mask comes no where near how much this sets the country back economically, how many people it will leave hospitizalied or dead, the medical bills,debt suffering, more shutdowns all because it's inconvient to wear a mask? We have an obligation to all our families,friends,ourselves and country to wear a fucking mask. The only way we can reopen the country is to get everyone to do a very small part in wearing a mask when they're in public and there's people that just refuse to do their part in a national crisis we haven't faced in over 100 years.
We know what the worst case scenario is for not wearing masks, why is you choosing not to wear a mask more important then 45 thousand people getting COVID in one day? Why is not wearing a mask more important then doing your part to save real people's lives?
Because individual freedumbs.
Rugged individualism and all that.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Brian Jones]
#26789915 - 06/28/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Brian Jones said: Well since you already like that pizza the best, if it were me I would be thinking, how many days a week can I eat pizza.
Hot delivery chicks is a great marketing idea. I would give them pepper spray and taser guns. It would still be kind of a turn on seeing those strapped to their belt.
The non-lethal weapons would then lead to more sexual predation! 
Because of Bidens public announcement of this, I will be voting for me cause its such an excellent idea to enforce masks even if impractical.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26789990 - 06/28/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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mandatory masks? Like 98, 99% of people survive from this virus!! It's not even that deadly! I swear I'm starting to hate the left. They're literally insane. Most people that get this virus aren't even getting sick!!
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue]
#26790015 - 06/28/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No matter what you do this world is going to kill you!!. Stop trying to control everything!
Let's all just wear masks, destroy the economy and stay inside for the next couple years because some 80 year olds are dying . Great idea (rooling my eyes).
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite]
#26790029 - 06/28/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said: Yes I'm all for it, liberal/leftist women look better with a mask on anyways
I don't think I've ever seen an attractive liberal/leftist woman 🤣. There might be a couple celebrities but in the real world most of them are unattractive.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 2
#26790105 - 06/28/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Biden should only debate trump if he agrees to wear a mask
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26790232 - 06/28/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: mandatory masks? Like 98, 99% of people survive from this virus!! It's not even that deadly! I swear I'm starting to hate the left. They're literally insane. Most people that get this virus aren't even getting sick!!
Only when the hospitals aren’t over capacity. 5% of covid patient will die without intensive healthcare.
Houston hospitals are now in surge capacity which means they have to select patients for intensive care and the patients least likely to survive are given palliative care until they die AKA death panels
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 2
#26790271 - 06/28/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: mandatory masks? Like 98, 99% of people survive from this virus!! It's not even that deadly! I swear I'm starting to hate the left. They're literally insane. Most people that get this virus aren't even getting sick!!
Yeah, it's not really a bad idea to wear a mask and it's not that hard to do or anything. You could be asymptomatic and spread the virus everywhere, wearing the mask helps slow that down. Wouldn't you feel bad if you have Covid and gave it to someone in your family and they ended up in the hospital?
Just put the damn mask on, don't be a superspreader. I'm pretty sure everywhere is mandatory as it is and they're going to start really enforcing it
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite] 2
#26790339 - 06/28/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exactly, its the spreading of it thats the biggest issue here. Even if people dont show symptoms, they could be spreading to someone who could get super sick from the Coronavirus. The virus is so unpredictable that making mandatory masks would really help stop the spread. Employees of various stores are already doing this, just gotta extend out to the general public.
7 counties in my State of Oregon are already doing it. I think its great.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26790415 - 06/28/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah I think it's been mandatory here in Michigan for awhile already, they just didn't enforce it. They will be now though to my understanding. Not sure why someone wouldn't just do what they're asked to, it's just a mask, it's not a big deal.
Cops will fuck you up if they want to if you give them an attitude about not wearing face covering. I'd rather avoid that kind of situation
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 1
#26790420 - 06/28/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: mandatory masks? Like 98, 99% of people survive from this virus!! It's not even that deadly! I swear I'm starting to hate the left. They're literally insane. Most people that get this virus aren't even getting sick!!
Only when the hospitals aren’t over capacity. 5% of covid patient will die without intensive healthcare.
Houston hospitals are now in surge capacity which means they have to select patients for intensive care and the patients least likely to survive are given palliative care until they die AKA death panels
We all know how the right feels aboit death panels...i remember seeing some guy screaming about how they wanted to kill his grandparents whwn they proposed obamacare. How the tables have turned.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite]
#26790561 - 06/28/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said:
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Shenmue said: mandatory masks? Like 98, 99% of people survive from this virus!! It's not even that deadly! I swear I'm starting to hate the left. They're literally insane. Most people that get this virus aren't even getting sick!!
Yeah, it's not really a bad idea to wear a mask and it's not that hard to do or anything. You could be asymptomatic and spread the virus everywhere, wearing the mask helps slow that down. Wouldn't you feel bad if you have Covid and gave it to someone in your family and they ended up in the hospital?
Just put the damn mask on, don't be a superspreader. I'm pretty sure everywhere is mandatory as it is and they're going to start really enforcing it
This virus isn't going anywhere. In a free society you shouldn't be forced to stay home or wear a mask. I don't even know anyone in my area that has died from this virus!. Our hospitals aren't even half way full. It's not as deadly as the news channels are saying. If you're that freaked out stay home and have your groceries delivered to you. The old retired people know what's going on. If they're concerned about it they need to stay home until we get a vaccine. I can't believe how many of you are willing to give up your rights over a virus that's like 1% deadly. Fuck I can only imagine how you're going to act when we actually get hit with something deadly. I cant even get bullets or guns at good prices right now because all you lefty's freaked out and finally purchased guns. Just calm down and stop telling other people what to do! Fuck!!!
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Kryptos] 2
#26790601 - 06/28/20 06:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: I agree with it. If your not wearing a mask during a pandemic in public when you can reduce your transmission rate from 16% to 4% is willfully contributing to the problem 30 states are having with record infections in states that opened quick and didn't wear masks and ultimately willfully contributing to deaths. There was 45 thousand cases in one day after places opened without people wearing masks. We were doing a little better until morons packed bars and other places without masks that isn't rocket science.
Cases are exploding and to help the country get over this quicker, recover, to slow this avalanche of COVID cases that represent real people's lives all we can personally do to help achieve this and save countless lives is to put a mask on when you're in public. What you lose from wearing a mask comes no where near how much this sets the country back economically, how many people it will leave hospitizalied or dead, the medical bills,debt suffering, more shutdowns all because it's inconvient to wear a mask? We have an obligation to all our families,friends,ourselves and country to wear a fucking mask. The only way we can reopen the country is to get everyone to do a very small part in wearing a mask when they're in public and there's people that just refuse to do their part in a national crisis we haven't faced in over 100 years.
We know what the worst case scenario is for not wearing masks, why is you choosing not to wear a mask more important then 45 thousand people getting COVID in one day? Why is not wearing a mask more important then doing your part to save real people's lives?
Because individual freedumbs.
Rugged individualism and all that.
For real
Yes the pursuit of LIFE, liberty and happiness. They need to understand freedom doesn't mean shit when you are dead or contributed to killing people taking their freedom away over a mask. When that Arizona councilman held an anti mask rally I was already fuming but then he started by saying "I can't breath!" and he takes off his mask off a and says that's better and the crowd cheered. He made a joke about George Floyd and police brutality AND is actively advocating for more dead Americans and more economic shutdowns and for what? I get wearing a mask isn't fun it's hot, makes it harder to breath well and it's uncomfortable but for God sakes think about someone beside yourselves.
Many have related this to wartime and it isnt far off. The entire country sprung into action in ww2 and they sacrificed alot more "rights" then we are being asked to do to save lives. We aren't being drafted and called on to go fight Nazis. We are being asked to do something that's incredibly easy and doesn't hurt us at all. At the most it's an inconvience to wear a mask and also if you want the country to reopen so badly we can't have 45 thousand cases in one day because states are already being FORCED to back track all the way back to the initial stay at home orders. It litterally kills people, it litterally shuts down economies again all because of some pricks can't be bothered to wear masks.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26790642 - 06/28/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"In a free society you shouldn't be forced to stay home or wear a mask."
So are we free to not pay our taxes too? Certainly most are not free or wealthy enough to decide what they are being used for when it comes to, "our safety".
I fear the first thing to go in a 6 minute sound bite society is it's rationality.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#26790667 - 06/28/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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R.I.P.Zappa said: "In a free society you shouldn't be forced to stay home or wear a mask."
So are we free to not pay our taxes too? Certainly most are not free or wealthy enough to decide what they are being used for when it comes to, "our safety".
I fear the first thing to go in a 6 minute sound bite society is it's rationality. 
That literally made no sense at all. Paying taxes and being forced to stay inside and wear masks are extremely different. You don't even have a country without taxes .. nice try though..
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26790698 - 06/28/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: For real
Yes the pursuit of LIFE, liberty and happiness. They need to understand freedom doesn't mean shit when you are dead or contributed to killing people taking their freedom away over a mask. When that Arizona councilman held an anti mask rally I was already fuming but then he started by saying "I can't breath!" and he takes off his mask off a and says that's better and the crowd cheered. He made a joke about George Floyd and police brutality AND is actively advocating for more dead Americans and more economic shutdowns and for what? I get wearing a mask isn't fun it's hot, makes it harder to breath well and it's uncomfortable but for God sakes think about someone beside yourselves.
Many have related this to wartime and it isnt far off. The entire country sprung into action in ww2 and they sacrificed alot more "rights" then we are being asked to do to save lives. We aren't being drafted and called on to go fight Nazis. We are being asked to do something that's incredibly easy and doesn't hurt us at all. At the most it's an inconvience to wear a mask and also if you want the country to reopen so badly we can't have 45 thousand cases in one day because states are already being FORCED to back track all the way back to the initial stay at home orders. It litterally kills people, it litterally shuts down economies again all because of some pricks can't be bothered to wear masks.
The flu kills 1% so why wasn't you concerned about masks during flu season??? !!! Didn't you care about the 1% that dies from the flu? No you didn't give a shit!! You didn't give a shit because the news channels and government wasn't freaking you out!! Covid 19 isn't as deadly as you think it is!! Most people aren't getting sick and the real % of deaths would probably surprise you. We're going to look back at this time in history disappointed at our selves that we allowed the government to take advantage of us like this.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 3
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The flu has nowhere near a 1% death rate, dude. Also, Covid permanently damages many people that it doesn't kill. If you can't see that Covid is far worse than any flu, you aren't paying attention.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
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18 months for fast vaccine development. So Aug - Oct 2021, best case? That is allot of time and the reverberations will be felt.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: SirTripAlot] 1
#26790753 - 06/28/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yup. Reality is what it is. Anyone who thinks that we're going to breeze through a global pandemic unscathed is in for a hard lesson.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26791006 - 06/28/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Between October 1st 2019 and April 4th 2020 56 million people got the flu and out of 56 million people there was 62 thousand deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
So in 7 months 62 thousand died from the flu out of 56 million that got it.
In 6 months Covid 19 has infected about 2.59 million people and killed 128 thousand that's 66 thousand more deaths then the flu in one month less time
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26791041 - 06/28/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: Between October 1st 2019 and April 4th 2020 56 million people got the flu and out of 56 million people there was 62 thousand deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
So in 7 months 62 thousand died from the flu out of 56 million that got it.
In 6 months Covid 19 has infected about 2.59 million people and killed 128 thousand that's 66 thousand more deaths then the flu in one month less time
Those aren't the real numbers though. If you die from something and have the covid in your system they automatically add it to the covid death numbers even if it didn't actually cause your death I heard about it on the Joe Rogan podcast and I honestly believe it.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26791062 - 06/28/20 10:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol... Joe Rogan.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue]
#26791079 - 06/28/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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1.25 million people are killed in car accidents each year. An additional 20-50 million people are injured or disabled. Exposure to secondhand smoke causes an estimated 41,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States alone!!!! I could go on and on.........
We're constantly surrounded by thing's that have the potential to kill us so no I'm not worried about covid-19! Even if you survive covid-19 this is basically your existence for the average person -- You're born, you go to school, you probably get a job that you hate, maybe shit out a kid or 2, you get old, you die and stop existing. That's basically life so what are you worried about? This is nothing but a temporary video game and at the end you stop existing!! Once you accept the truth that life is meaningless you stop worrying about shit like covid-19.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue]
#26791084 - 06/28/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Life is meaningless, but if you're going to worry about who the President will be, you've already bought into a lot of meaningless shit.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26791200 - 06/29/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's not about civil liberties, it's a safety issue. Do whatever you want though and don't wear a mask in public. I think you're being selfish and don't give a shit about anyone else but you. Also, don't confuse me as a leftist
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 2
#26791284 - 06/29/20 03:16 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: Between October 1st 2019 and April 4th 2020 56 million people got the flu and out of 56 million people there was 62 thousand deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
So in 7 months 62 thousand died from the flu out of 56 million that got it.
In 6 months Covid 19 has infected about 2.59 million people and killed 128 thousand that's 66 thousand more deaths then the flu in one month less time
Those aren't the real numbers though. If you die from something and have the covid in your system they automatically add it to the covid death numbers even if it didn't actually cause your death I heard about it on the Joe Rogan podcast and I honestly believe it.
You saying the numbers are a lie AND claiming you know for a fact the flu is so much worse then covid can't both be true. Also you having a hunch that the numbers they put out aren't exact is like saying 6 million Jews didn't die in the holocaust because you hear a story on am radio saying it was a Jewish hoax. People are dying whether you honestly believe it or not. The governor of texas had the same attitude as you before their hospitals got overrun and now its FORCING another stay at home order and complete shutdown because you cant put a mask on. Apparently you're making life and death choices about a pandemic, gambling people's lives from a Joe Rogan podcast instead of scientists,doctors,surgeons and epidemiologists across the world? Again we are talking about putting a mask on in public so less people die, you'd think it's a microchip in your anus that deploys spikes the way you talk about wearing a mask to help save lives.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Shenmue] 2
#26791554 - 06/29/20 07:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I heard about it on the Joe Rogan podcast and I honestly believe it.
Joe Rogan isn’t news . He’s a conspiracy nutter comedian , just like Jimmy Dore , just a little more entertaining . He used to have a show that made people drink donkey cum , if that’s says anything about how unqualified he is to be giving out medical advice .
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Psilynut2]
#26791636 - 06/29/20 08:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Donkey jizz cures COVID, haven't you heard?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: christopera]
#26791647 - 06/29/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: natedawgnow]
#26791650 - 06/29/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jimmy Dore's mom said so. And she hasn't gotten it yet, so...
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: christopera] 1
#26791655 - 06/29/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No I meant can I get a source for donkey jizz. I dont know any donkeys
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: natedawgnow]
#26791656 - 06/29/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Since they shut down Silk Road, I haven't been able to find any. My supply is running low, too.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: natedawgnow]
#26791779 - 06/29/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No I meant can I get a source for donkey jizz. I dont know any donkeys
According to Rogans podcast all you need is a willing rancher , a donkey , a cattle prod , and a really big cup .
I like joe Rogan , I listen to him at work when I bored . Last week I got to the one where he talks about Seth Rich and how he doesn’t know Hillary kills people for sure but hey maybe .
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Psilynut2]
#26791857 - 06/29/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MightyWhite said: It's not about civil liberties, it's a safety issue. Do whatever you want though and don't wear a mask in public. I think you're being selfish and don't give a shit about anyone else but you. Also, don't confuse me as a leftist
I agree that masks are important.
But please don't tell Shenmue to do whatever he wants. Masks are very good at helping prevent the spread of Covid-19 to others, but unless you wear goggles to cover your eyes, they aren't totally effective in stopping the virus from spreading to you.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Psilynut2]
#26791863 - 06/29/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilynut2 said: Joe Rogan isn’t news . He’s a conspiracy nutter comedian , just like Jimmy Dore , just a little more entertaining . He used to have a show that made people drink donkey cum , if that’s says anything about how unqualified he is to be giving out medical advice .
Let's play a game. You pick your favorite news source, and I'll pick Jimmy Dore, and let's see how many conspiracy theories we find from each. I'll make a signature bet I'll find more conspiracy from your mainstream media source than you find from Jimmy Dore. Jimmy's the guy who exposes mainstream conspiracy theories.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26791926 - 06/29/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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How does he do that ? Is he a licensed investigator or something ? What makes him a credible source ? Is his work subjected to any kind of peer review or anything ? Not sure if I want to take you up on your bet but I’m choosing Fox News as my mainstream choice if I do .
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Psilynut2] 1
#26791935 - 06/29/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, you're not going to get anywhere with that. Falcon believes that Russia didn't poison Skripal, didn't interfere with the election, that Flynn isn't guilty despite testifying under oath that he is. He believes Syria didn't use chemical weapons. Basically, he'll always win because the truth is defined by what Jimmy Dore says.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Psilynut2] 2
#26791955 - 06/29/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took this picture at the protests in DC at the beginning of June. DC has not seen any spike. Our new cases numbers are consistently in the low double digits, despite daily protests. DC has fewer new cases today than Montana. MASKS WORK!
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26791960 - 06/29/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, you're not going to get anywhere with that. Falcon believes that Russia didn't poison Skripal, didn't interfere with the election, that Flynn isn't guilty despite testifying under oath that he is. He believes Syria didn't use chemical weapons. Basically, he'll always win because the truth is defined by what Jimmy Dore says.
He’s not winning though , he’s on a downward spiral . He used to talk about Dore like he pushed no conspiracy garbage at all but now he seems more than willing to admit that I will find shit on his YouTube channel but its just not Cnn level .
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil] 1
#26792004 - 06/29/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, you're not going to get anywhere with that. Falcon believes that Russia didn't poison Skripal, didn't interfere with the election, that Flynn isn't guilty despite testifying under oath that he is. He believes Syria didn't use chemical weapons. Basically, he'll always win because the truth is defined by what Jimmy Dore says.
He’s not winning though , he’s on a downward spiral . He used to talk about Dore like he pushed no conspiracy garbage at all but now he seems more than willing to admit that I will find shit on his YouTube channel but its just not Cnn level .
HOLY MAKE BELIEVE DUDE!!!
I said we don't have any enough evidence about the Skripal poisoning to know who did it. I never said it was or wasn't Russia.
I bet that the election interference charges against the Troll Farm owner would have to be dropped, which they were.
I said the case against Flynn may have to be dropped because the FBI entrapped Flynn, which the DOJ has since recommended.
I showed evidence of four whistle blowers who said the Douma chemical weapons story against Assad was bullshit.
And finally, I showed you that I usually tell a story BEFORE Jimmy Dore does, so I don't blindly follow him as you claim.
You really need to tone down on your make believe Enlil. I realize you hate to get embarrassed, but make believing is only going to make the embarrassment a lot worse.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26792013 - 06/29/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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K so this is like the second vid on his YouTube thing . Everything about it says conspiracy nutter . He even uses joe Rogan as a source .
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Psilynut2]
#26792032 - 06/29/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ignore Jimmy Dore and watch the clip of Dr Fauci from 3:25 - 4:20. Dr Fauci ADMITTED he downplayed the importance of masks to ensure people in the healthcare profession would be able to get them.
Do you think Dr Fauci was telling the truth when he said that masks weren't important?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26792048 - 06/29/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The federal government initially downplayed the necessity of masks because our shitty economic system wouldn’t be able to provide enough for everyone.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#26792053 - 06/29/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exactly. And Fauci played along.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26792069 - 06/29/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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How did he lie? I’ve known since February that the CDC wasn’t recommending mask usage by the public because there was a mask shortage. How did I know that? Because that’s what they were saying at the time. There was also a lack of data showing that non-medical grade masks had efficacy.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792084 - 06/29/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah they said feom the getgo not to go buying bulk masks because people dealing with the infected needed them and there was a shortage. Why are people spinning this into something it obviously isnt?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792085 - 06/29/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Again, Dr Fauci himself admitted downplaying the importance of masks.
I'm not saying his reasons weren't good.
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#26792092 - 06/29/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Again, Dr Fauci himself admitted downplaying the importance of masks.
I'm not saying his reasons weren't good.
All I see is an effort to undermine public health effort on your part and others who are obsessed with a changing messaging on masks as if the situation now and the knowledge now is exactly what it was three months ago.
Donald Trump said the virus would disappear in April. Where is the Dore video about that?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792103 - 06/29/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Again, Dr Fauci himself admitted downplaying the importance of masks.
I'm not saying his reasons weren't good.
All I see is an effort to undermine public health effort...
I don't see it that way. I guess you feel we should hide the truth so public opinion isn't hurt? Again, I'm not saying that's not a good reason, but I'm not into hiding the truth like you are.
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The mainstream media is already FULL of that. Jimmy Dore tries to show things that the that mainstream media won't.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 1
#26792120 - 06/29/20 01:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jimmy keeps saying Fauci lied. No he didn’t. The science behind wearing masks has changed. We now have data showing masks work and the general public should wear them because of asymptomatic spread. But here he is in March saying we need to reserve masks for healthcare workers. He’s always been upfront about that. Jimmy Dore is the one who is lying.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Again, Dr Fauci himself admitted downplaying the importance of masks.
I'm not saying his reasons weren't good.
All I see is an effort to undermine public health effort...
I don't see it that way. I guess you feel we should hide the truth so public opinion isn't hurt? Again, I'm not saying that's not a good reason, but I'm not into hiding the truth like you are
He never hid the truth. He’s been upfront about it the whole time. You’re the one spreading lies.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792142 - 06/29/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: Jimmy keeps saying Fauci lied. No he didn’t.
From your interview:
Fauci: "Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks" Inerviewer: "You're sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this." Fauci: "Right now people should not be... there's no reason to be walking around with masks."
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The fact that masks prevent the spread of a virus is a new discovery?!?
I asked a coworker from Japan about 5 years ago why so many people in Japan wear masks. He told me it was more to prevent the spread from sick people than it was to protect people.
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Fal I think you’re missing the bigger picture here which is that trump doesn’t like fauci therefore fauci is infallible.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Don’t change the goal posts. Address the issue as you originally framed it: that Fauci hid the truth. That is a lie and I just proved it.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Fal I think you’re missing the bigger picture here which is that trump doesn’t like fauci therefore fauci is infallible.
What does this have to do with trump? TDS alert.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 2
#26792167 - 06/29/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It has everything to do with trump lmao. Fauci has to be good because trump doesn’t like him and trump is bad.
Same reason you constantly caped for Mueller, Comey, etc.
The fact remains that Fauci (and the CDC as a whole) downplayed the importance of masks early on for various reasons, which undoubtedly exacerbated the pandemic in the US.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792169 - 06/29/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Please quote how you think I originally framed it. Then I'll address that.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 1
#26792175 - 06/29/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fauci: "Right now people should not be... there's no reason to be walking around with masks
June 2020 is not the RIGHT NOW of March 2020.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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koods said: Don’t change the goal posts. Address the issue as you originally framed it: that Fauci hid the truth. That is a lie and I just proved it.
Please quote how you think I originally framed it. Then I'll address that.
Fal I’m not going down this route with you. You said Fauci hid the truth. I showed you a clip from early March where he was saying the same thing about preserving masks for healthcare workers. You’re wrong. Jimmy Dore is wrong. You won’t admit it. There’s no point in continuing the discussion.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: It has everything to do with trump lmao. Fauci has to be good because trump doesn’t like him and trump is bad.
Same reason you constantly caped for Mueller, Comey, etc.
The fact remains that Fauci (and the CDC as a whole) downplayed the importance of masks early on for various reasons, which undoubtedly exacerbated the pandemic in the US.
What a silly argument. Me trusting Fauci has absolutely nothing do with Trumps opinion of him. Jesus you people are off the rails.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 2
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It absolutely does but I can see why you’d claim it doesn’t.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Lol get over yourself. I grew up in the NIH community. I went to summer camp there. My mother worked there for 40 years. She was a commander in the US Public Health Service. She worked with Dr. Fauci. I worked at NIH. My father’s best friend and business partner was the director of one of the institutes, as Dr. Fauci is now.
My trust in Dr. Fauci and the work of the scientists at NIH and the Public Health Service HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DONALD TRUMP. Grow up.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 1
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So why’d he put millions of lives in jeapordy by going on tv and telling the American public that masks were unnecessary?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
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It wasn’t just Fauci either but it’s pretty clear the liberal worship of him in the past month or so is directly related to his antagonistic relationship with Trump.
Hell, liberals are even welcoming Dick Cheney to the resistance now because his daughter posted a picture of him on twitter wearing a mask. It’s pathetic.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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koods said: Jimmy keeps saying Fauci lied. No he didn’t.
From your interview:
Fauci: "Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks" Inerviewer: "You're sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this." Fauci: "Right now people should not be... there's no reason to be walking around with masks."
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koods said: The science behind wearing masks has changed. We now have data showing masks work and the general public should wear them because of asymptomatic spread.
The fact that masks prevent the spread of a virus is a new discovery?!?
I asked a coworker from Japan about 5 years ago why so many people in Japan wear masks. He told me it was more to prevent the spread from sick people than it was to protect people.
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koods said: Jimmy keeps saying Fauci lied. No he didn’t.
From your interview:
Fauci: "Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks" Inerviewer: "You're sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this." Fauci: "Right now people should not be... there's no reason to be walking around with masks."
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koods said: The science behind wearing masks has changed. We now have data showing masks work and the general public should wear them because of asymptomatic spread.
The fact that masks prevent the spread of a virus is a new discovery?!?
I asked a coworker from Japan about 5 years ago why so many people in Japan wear masks. He told me it was more to prevent the spread from sick people than it was to protect people.
Fauci recently has pleaded with people to use masks and practice social distancing. You jumped on a quote without taking into account all the other times he said to wear masks. Also I don't need fauci to find out masks will save lives, firstly that's common sense, secondly other countries don't even have this debate and are doing much better then the US and third learning basic science of infectious diseases and impact covid is having through listening to ER doctors,nurses,epidemiologists and real experts from across the world it's crystal fucking clear masks reduce the amount of suffering we go through,slows down the infection rate and subsequently the death rate . While people rally against masks,trying to find ways to discredit them or pontificate about them people are dying. More people then is nessicary.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26792265 - 06/29/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: So why’d he put millions of lives in jeapordy by going on tv and telling the American public that masks were unnecessary?
Did you listen to the interview? All his recommendations started with “right now”
Facts change. Recommendations change. People can be wrong.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin] 1
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“You’re jumping on one quote where trump said there’s good people on both sides talking about nazis and ignoring the countless other times he’s denounced white supremacy.”
This is what y’all sound like.
I don’t see what’s so difficult about admitting that the federal government AS A WHOLE downplayed the importance of masks at the onset of this virus. You’re not saying trump is right, or that the virus is a hoax, or that masks are for cucks, just be honest with yourself.
I’ve seen dozens of fb friends posting CDC statements from early March on their timelines that downplay the effectiveness of wearing masks, this shit was/still is harming the public’s willingness to combat the spread of this virus. Like I said, the reason they did so was to make sure they had enough masks for medical professionals but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 1
#26792277 - 06/29/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: So why’d he put millions of lives in jeapordy by going on tv and telling the American public that masks were unnecessary?
Did you listen to the interview? All his recommendations started with “right now”
Facts change. Recommendations change. People can be wrong.
Like fal said, nations like Japan have known for years that wearing masks prevent the spread of airborne viruses. Hell, anyone who’s seen the movie Outbreak knows this. But you expect us to believe that the director of the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases for 40 years didn’t know that until recently? Or that somehow the facts about airborne viruses suddenly changed? Come on man.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said: Fauci recently has pleaded with people to use masks and practice social distancing. You jumped on a quote without taking into account all the other times he said to wear masks.
I did take his later quotes into account. That was the whole premise of this discussion. First, he said it's not necessary. Then when the mask shortage was over, he pleaded with people to start using them.
Again, I understand his reasoning for this, but let's not pretend he wasn't misleading people.
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Seriously_trippin said: Also I don't need fauci to find out masks will save lives, firstly that's common sense, secondly other countries don't even have this debate and are doing much better then the US and third learning basic science of infectious diseases and impact covid is having through listening to ER doctors,nurses,epidemiologists and real experts from across the world it's crystal fucking clear masks reduce the amount of suffering we go through,slows down the infection rate and subsequently the death rate . While people rally against masks,trying to find ways to discredit them or pontificate about them people are dying. More people then is nessicary.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26792280 - 06/29/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: It wasn’t just Fauci either but it’s pretty clear the liberal worship of him in the past month or so is directly related to his antagonistic relationship with Trump.
You’re seriously delusional. Was his popularity during the Ebola scare due to Donald trump? And what antagonistic relationship? Fauci hasn’t criticized trump at all. You’re making shit up.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: So why’d he put millions of lives in jeapordy by going on tv and telling the American public that masks were unnecessary?
Did you listen to the interview? All his recommendations started with “right now”
Facts change. Recommendations change. People can be wrong.
Like fal said, nations like Japan have known for years that wearing masks prevent the spread of airborne viruses. Hell, anyone who’s seen the movie Outbreak knows this. But you expect us to believe that the director of the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases for 40 years didn’t know that until recently? Or that somehow the facts about airborne viruses suddenly changed? Come on man.
And he didn’t think it was necessary for the general public to wear masks back when there were very few cases and the masks were in short supply. What is so hard to understand?
And the science on non medical masks (Face coverings) was very lacking until the past month or two. They don’t block viruses.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
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I just don't like cherrypicking it's not an unwavering trust in fauci he did lie about face masks in the beginning. He was asked why people weren't told about face masks in the beginning and he very bluntly said they felt they had to lie to us to make sure hospitals had the face masks they needed because in reality we were scrambling to just get enough masks to hospitals. But they did lie to us. So what you do is look at the people actually on the front lines, er doctors, lung specialists, epidemiologists, look at studies across the world not just here. Not everyone that's advocating masks is buying wht fauci is selling it just makes sense to do. I know for a fact wearing a mask won't hurt you but there's a very good chance not wearing one is contributing to the explosion of 45 thousand cases in one day.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods] 1
#26792328 - 06/29/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: It wasn’t just Fauci either but it’s pretty clear the liberal worship of him in the past month or so is directly related to his antagonistic relationship with Trump.
You’re seriously delusional. Was his popularity during the Ebola scare due to Donald trump? And what antagonistic relationship? Fauci hasn’t criticized trump at all. You’re making shit up.
I don’t remember people making Fauci t shirts during Ebola.
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The Ecstatic said: So why’d he put millions of lives in jeapordy by going on tv and telling the American public that masks were unnecessary?
Did you listen to the interview? All his recommendations started with “right now”
Facts change. Recommendations change. People can be wrong.
Like fal said, nations like Japan have known for years that wearing masks prevent the spread of airborne viruses. Hell, anyone who’s seen the movie Outbreak knows this. But you expect us to believe that the director of the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases for 40 years didn’t know that until recently? Or that somehow the facts about airborne viruses suddenly changed? Come on man.
And he didn’t think it was necessary for the general public to wear masks back when there were very few cases and the masks were in short supply. What is so hard to understand?
And the science on non medical masks (Face coverings) was very lacking until the past month or two. They don’t block viruses.
You’re so close to getting it.
It’s not that he didn’t think the masks were necessary, it’s that he said the masks weren’t necessary BECAUSE they were in short supply.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Yeah washing your hands doesn’t block viruses either but somehow restaurants still made their employees wash their hands before a month ago.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Priorities shifted from the general public to healthcare workers cause of the limited supply right?
Do non-medical masks do nothing to stop the spread of the virus? Or do they help even a little? Not sure on the data on that...
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
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That’s all I’m saying: the limited supply of masks necessitated relegating them to medical professionals in the early stages.
Koods wants me to believe that everything we know about airborne viruses changed recently.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
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koods said: The science on non medical masks (Face coverings) was very lacking until the past month or two. They don’t block viruses.
I found several articles from 2009 where that was already known. Should I link to one?
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There's very little data to suggest that Covid can be spread by airborne transmission. It appears that it is spread through respiratory droplets.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah washing your hands doesn’t block viruses either but somehow restaurants still made their employees wash their hands before a month ago.
Lol wut? Soap kills most viruses.
Something that is lost in this discussion is the fact that what we are referring to now as masks (cloth, non-medical face coverings) weren’t even on the radar in march. There was almost no science on whether face coverings would work. The masks Fauci was refering to in March were medical grade n95 type masks. There is still no recommendation that people wear those. There simply aren’t enough, even now.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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koods said: The science on non medical masks (Face coverings) was very lacking until the past month or two. They don’t block viruses.
I found several articles from 2009 where that was already known. Should I link to one?
Yes please link to articles written 11 years before this virus existed in humans
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792372 - 06/29/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Viruses weren't discovered 11 years ago?!?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
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My first degree is in industrial safety. There are basically three areas that masks are intended to be effective. The first, filter particulate matter. The second, filter vapors. Finally, to stop blood borne pathogens. Medical masks are for BBP's. Even N95 medical masks are basically for BBP's because they never make a particularly good fit your face. For an N95 medical mask you don't need a fit test or respiratory clearance, just training on it's use. A half mask or full face respirator only works for the person inhaling, they exhale dirty air, as they are valved. They however exert large respiratory loads and require medical clearance and require a fit test that uses an smoke irritant or other means for identifying leaks. I am certified to do that medical clearance and fit test and do it fairly often, a few times a week.
There is little to no old research that I am aware of regarding the release of respiratory droplets. I know lots of it is in the works. OSHA doesn't have an official documentation on it either, they are treading lightly. I am an official Pandemic Safety Officer for my company and had to do a training to receive that, it was the most bullshit training ever because they have no clue what to train on. Everybody is lost.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26792574 - 06/29/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Idk maybe you weren’t paying attention back then but the messaging about masks from January - Late March was always that we needed to protect the supply for healthcare workers. The jimmy Dore video is a lie. Fauci never hid that. Falcon traffics in complete bullshit as usual.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26792876 - 06/29/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You act like there's no difference between the two.
If we're talking about how these spread, there seems to be little difference. What's different about how COVID-19 spreads vs how flu was believed to be spread many years ago?
How Influenza is Spread
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26792917 - 06/29/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: The jimmy Dore video is a lie. Fauci never hid that. Falcon traffics in complete bullshit as usual.
I'll repeat what Dr Fauci said:
Fauci: "Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks" Inerviewer: "You're sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this." Fauci: "No. Right now people should not be walking... there's no reason to be walking around with a mask... Often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
He told people they shouldn't wear masks, and THAT'S what Jimmy was talking about. Yes, he also truthfully told them we need to protect the supply for healthcare workers, but that's not the part we're talking about.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26793024 - 06/29/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This virus doesn’t behave like a flu virus at all. Flu viruses don’t spread from asyptomatic patients, even though a majority of flu infections are asymptomatic. Flu outbreaks rarely happen during the summer. This virus is spreading like wildfire in the hottest parts of the country in summertime.
Comparing this virus to the flu has continually been proven to be folly. We need to stop using the flu to model coronavirus.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26793057 - 06/29/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: The jimmy Dore video is a lie. Fauci never hid that. Falcon traffics in complete bullshit as usual.
I'll repeat what Dr Fauci said:
Fauci: "Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks" Inerviewer: "You're sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this." Fauci: "No. Right now people should not be walking... there's no reason to be walking around with a mask... Often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
He told people they shouldn't wear masks, and THAT'S what Jimmy was talking about. Yes, he also truthfully told them we need to protect the supply for healthcare workers, but that's not the part we're talking about.
You’re so fucking dishonest. Dore said Fauci lied about the reason he didn’t recommend masks. He’s been upfront about protecting the supply the whole time, or do you not understand what the term “and that’s the point” in the exchange that you left out, despite it being the most germane part of the interview in the context of this discussion.
Q: But it could lead to a shortage of masks Fauci: Exactly. And that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who need them.
I’m done debating this with you. You simply do not care about debating honestly and will lie repeatedly to win.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26793161 - 06/29/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: This virus doesn’t behave like a flu virus at all. Flu viruses don’t spread from asyptomatic patients, even though a majority of flu infections are asymptomatic. Flu outbreaks rarely happen during the summer. This virus is spreading like wildfire in the hottest parts of the country in summertime.
Comparing this virus to the flu has continually been proven to be folly. We need to stop using the flu to model coronavirus.
The only comparison here was mask protection. Can you please tell us the difference?
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Fauci: "Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks" Inerviewer: "You're sure of it? Because people are listening really closely to this." Fauci: "No. Right now people should not be walking... there's no reason to be walking around with a mask... Often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
He told people they shouldn't wear masks, and THAT'S what Jimmy was talking about. Yes, he also truthfully told them we need to protect the supply for healthcare workers, but that's not the part we're talking about.
You’re so fucking dishonest. Dore said Fauci lied about the reason he didn’t recommend masks.
Can you tell me where in the video "Dore said Fauci lied about the reason he didn’t recommend masks"? Or are you make believing again?
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koods said: He’s been upfront about protecting the supply the whole time, or do you not understand what the term “and that’s the point” in the exchange that you left out, despite it being the most germane part of the interview in the context of this discussion.
Q: But it could lead to a shortage of masks Fauci: Exactly. And that’s the point. It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who need them.
Yes, and I already agreed with you on that in my last post: "he also truthfully told them we need to protect the supply for healthcare workers". 
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Again, all you have to do is tell me where in the video "Dore said Fauci lied about the reason he didn’t recommend masks". If you can do that, we're done. If not, you're make believing again.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Enlil said: You act like there's no difference between the two.
If we're talking about how these spread, there seems to be little difference. What's different about how COVID-19 spreads vs how flu was believed to be spread many years ago?
How Influenza is Spread
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Seriously_trippin said: Between October 1st 2019 and April 4th 2020 56 million people got the flu and out of 56 million people there was 62 thousand deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
So in 7 months 62 thousand died from the flu out of 56 million that got it.
In 6 months Covid 19 has infected about 2.59 million people and killed 128 thousand that's 66 thousand more deaths then the flu in one month less time
I outlined the difference. Covid has killed almost double the amount of people in the same time frame as the flu and 56 million people got the flu as opposed to 2.5m or so with COVID that's generously 53 million more people infected with double the deaths. Yeah fauci was told to lie by the Trump admin and he did but that doesn't take any importance away from basic preventive measures we ALL need to do to save lives and make sure we don't have a complete shut down AGAIN . Already California's bars were forced to shut down and more importantly the state's that were jumping to reopen before guidelines were met are now having to shut down AGAIN. Texas is the new hotspot of America, florida and arizona qre back to capacity and about 30 other states have seen unsustainable explosions of cases because we are wasting time debating whether we should do what we can to beat this and open safely by putting a fucking mask on. It's still not going to go away it's just going to save lives and allow the economy to ACTUALLY reopen
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26793181 - 06/29/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: I outlined the difference. Covid has killed almost double the amount of people in the same time frame as the flu and 56 million people got the flu as opposed to 2.5m or so with COVID that's generously 53 million more people infected with double the deaths.
Yes, there's no question that COVID-19 is far more deadly than the flu. The discussion was about whether masks are effective or not.
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I absolutely agree.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26793207 - 06/29/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: I outlined the difference. Covid has killed almost double the amount of people in the same time frame as the flu and 56 million people got the flu as opposed to 2.5m or so with COVID that's generously 53 million more people infected with double the deaths.
Yes, there's no question that COVID-19 is far more deadly than the flu. The discussion was about whether masks are effective or not.
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I absolutely agree.
I'm glad we can agree on something, we disagree on alot and for some reason I like you even though we fight but people just need to wear the masks period. They are effective, no other country disputes this so I'm glad we agree on that. That's all I want is people across America to agree on just one thing wear a mask. It's maddening that we don't
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26793224 - 06/29/20 08:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes it’s very maddening. It’s also maddening that people like falcon seemed determined to undermine people like Fauci by claiming he lied when he did no such thing.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26793393 - 06/29/20 10:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Fauci never made any kind of claim about effectiveness of the masks. He only said that they shouldnt be worn by the majority of people during the beggining of the epidemic due to a shortage. Someone is conflaiting something to something that that something isnt....
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#26793408 - 06/29/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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He even said that “right now people should not be walking around with masks” that “right now” is a pretty deliberate indication that their recommendation may change. And he said it twice. No where did he say masks didn’t work. He just said people shouldn’t be wearing them... right now.
As far as I can see Fauci didn’t try to hide anything
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26793545 - 06/30/20 12:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: All you have to do is tell me where in the video "Dore said Fauci lied about the reason he didn’t recommend masks". If you can do that, we're done. If not, you're make believing again.
***CRICKETS***
Ok, so it appears you were make believing about that.
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koods said: He even said that “right now people should not be walking around with masks” that “right now” is a pretty deliberate indication that their recommendation may change. And he said it twice. No where did he say masks didn’t work. He just said people shouldn’t be wearing them... right now.
As far as I can see Fauci didn’t try to hide anything
He hid the fact that he KNEW his 'recommendation' was going to change. He admitted that the reason he told people they didn't need to wear a mask was to ensure that the healthcare workers got them.
I'm not saying his intention was bad, I'm saying he lied about the need for masks. Countries that wore more masks earlier did better than the US.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#26793599 - 06/30/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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None of what you just said is true. Nada.
He’s always said the reason was to preserve the supply. That was “the point” as he explicitly said in the interview. His use of the words “right now” to describe the current recommendation clearly indicate the policy may change. You’re so full of shit. I can’t tell if you’re desperately trying to spin or incapable of analyzing a couple sentences.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26793650 - 06/30/20 02:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: All you have to do is tell me where in the video "Dore said Fauci lied about the reason he didn’t recommend masks". If you can do that, we're done. If not, you're make believing again.
***CRICKETS***
Ok, so it appears you were make believing about that.
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koods said: He even said that “right now people should not be walking around with masks” that “right now” is a pretty deliberate indication that their recommendation may change. And he said it twice. No where did he say masks didn’t work. He just said people shouldn’t be wearing them... right now.
As far as I can see Fauci didn’t try to hide anything
He hid the fact that he KNEW his 'recommendation' was going to change. He admitted that the reason he told people they didn't need to wear a mask was to ensure that the healthcare workers got them.
I'm not saying his intention was bad, I'm saying he lied about the need for masks. Countries that wore more masks earlier did better than the US.
He never said anything to downplay the need for masks. No matter how hard you want that to be the case. And from that video i think its pretty clear by him saying "at this time", that his reccomendation is subject to change.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26793904 - 06/30/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's a huge difference between airborne transmission and respiratory droplet transmission. I don't know if there is much difference between how covid is spread vs a flu, though. I didn't say anything about that.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26793949 - 06/30/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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People seem to think that respiratory droplets with virus in them flyimg through the air constitutes airborne transmission. I heard this same line of stuff during the ebola outbreak, constantly.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26794044 - 06/30/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: None of what you just said is true. Nada.
Source, or make believe? You'll have to be more specific about what wasn't true.
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koods said: He’s always said the reason was to preserve the supply. That was “the point” as he explicitly said in the interview.
Yes, and I've agreed with you twice, three times now on this.
When you say "the reason", you mean the reason he lied about people not needing masks, correct?
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koods said: His use of the words “right now” to describe the current recommendation clearly indicate the policy may change. You’re so full of shit. I can’t tell if you’re desperately trying to spin or incapable of analyzing a couple sentences.
His use of the words "right now" was to protect the supply of masks for healthcare workers, according to Dr Fauci himself. You just admitted that and I just agreed with you three times.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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So are you admitting that Fauci was right? People should not have been wearing masks in public at that time? Or are you saying he was wrong?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26794054 - 06/30/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm saying FAUCI HIMSELF said the reason he told people that masks weren't important at the time was to protect the supply of masks for healthcare workers. Otherwise he wouldn't have said that.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794123 - 06/30/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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IMO people in Asian cities were primarily wearing masks, previous to this, because of pollution and allergies, rather than anything to do with infectious diseases. I'll admit that my source is a work of fiction, but Mario Puzo's 1978 novel, "Fools Die" described people in public in Tokyo wearing them for those reasons.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Brian Jones]
#26794144 - 06/30/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could be. I got my info from a coworker living in Japan.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26794285 - 06/30/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just thought of that because I have been rereading that book about once per decade. There have been some other major Asian epidemics, so that may have grown into another major reasons to wear masks. I also heard that Asian women like them, so they can go out to the grocery store or whatever, and not put makeup on.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794408 - 06/30/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I'm saying FAUCI HIMSELF said the reason he told people that masks weren't important at the time was to protect the supply of masks for healthcare workers. Otherwise he wouldn't have said that.
When did he say they weren't important?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26794417 - 06/30/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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He said people shouldn't be wearing masks in koods' video, which I quoted here.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794428 - 06/30/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's not the same as saying they're not important. People shouldn't have worn them in public because they ARE important and because healthcare workers needed them more.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26794466 - 06/30/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Youre really just splitting hairs til people are too exhausted by the convrrsattion to bother arguing.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26794467 - 06/30/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, we KNOW that now (for the fourth time).
He didn't say masks were important for the general public before, like he is saying now, BECAUSE he wanted to protect the mask supply for healthcare workers.
Saying people should NOT wear masks is like saying they're not important to me.
If your opinion is different, then fine.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
#26794475 - 06/30/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Youre really just splitting hairs til people are too exhausted by the convrrsattion to bother arguing.
Enlil is splitting hairs the same as I am. We think it's important to get the story right.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794492 - 06/30/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"Should" infers the best course of action. Fauci was right. People wearing masks then would have caused more harm.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794511 - 06/30/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: Youre really just splitting hairs til people are too exhausted by the convrrsattion to bother arguing.
Enlil is splitting hairs the same as I am. We think it's important to get the story right.
No you’re just wrong. He said back in March they were not recommending people wear masks because they needed to protect the supply. I don’t get how you don’t understand what he said in that interview.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26794560 - 06/30/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: "Should" infers the best course of action. Fauci was right. People wearing masks then would have caused more harm.
Caused more harm in what way?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26794564 - 06/30/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: He said back in March they were not recommending people wear masks because they needed to protect the supply. I don’t get how you don’t understand what he said in that interview.
Can you quote what he said like I quoted what he said?
Edit: Or tell me the time clip to watch?
I'm trying to understand your point, but you're never able to answer my questions.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794746 - 06/30/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: "Should" infers the best course of action. Fauci was right. People wearing masks then would have caused more harm.
Caused more harm in what way?
More people would have died.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26794806 - 06/30/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: He said back in March they were not recommending people wear masks because they needed to protect the supply. I don’t get how you don’t understand what he said in that interview.
Can you quote what he said like I quoted what he said?
Edit: Or tell me the time clip to watch?
I'm trying to understand your point, but you're never able to answer my questions.
I already did when you left it out. Or just watch the video it’s only 1 minute long
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26794879 - 06/30/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Fauci was right. People wearing masks then would have caused more harm.
Caused more harm in what way?
More people would have died.
Are you saying wearing masks would have caused more people to die?
Or are you saying mask shortages in hospitals would have caused people to die? Because this is at least the FIFTH time I'm letting you know I understand that Fauci deceived the public because he wanted to protect the mask supply for healthcare workers. And this is at least the THIRD time I'm saying I understand those motives.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794902 - 06/30/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You asked, dude. I answered. If you didn't want the answer, you shouldn't have asked.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794947 - 06/30/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Fauci was right. People wearing masks then would have caused more harm.
Caused more harm in what way?
More people would have died.
Are you saying wearing masks would have caused more people to die?
Or are you saying mask shortages in hospitals would have caused people to die? Because this is at least the FIFTH time I'm letting you know I understand that Fauci deceived the public because he wanted to protect the mask supply for healthcare workers.
You are incapable of admitting you’re wrong. That video i posted proves Fauci didn’t deceive anyone and yet you continue to lie.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26794979 - 06/30/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: You asked, dude. I answered. If you didn't want the answer, you shouldn't have asked.
I wanted your answer, but I also asked you to clarify. Do you think wearing masks causes more people to die? Or do you think Dr Fauci deceived people to save healthcare worker lives? It's a simple question really.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26794983 - 06/30/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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At that time it would have caused more people to die. No, I don't think Dr. Fauci deceived people to save healthcare worker lives.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26795031 - 06/30/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: At that time it would have caused more people to die.
Because wearing a mask causes more people to die, or because it would have caused a mask shortage? I think we both know why you won't answer this question.
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Enlil said: No, I don't think Dr. Fauci deceived people to save healthcare worker lives.
So this statement wasn't dishonest?
"Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks... Often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
So you believe him and you're against masks? I'll play this game as long as you keep dodging the question.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26795036 - 06/30/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You are incapable of admitting you’re wrong. That video i posted proves Fauci didn’t deceive anyone and yet you continue to lie.
I'll admit I'm wrong when you provide a quote showing I'm wrong. "Waaah, I think maybe it's somewhere in the video" isn't cutting it.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26795049 - 06/30/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Because wearing a mask causes more people to die, or because it would have caused a mask shortage? I think we both know why you won't answer this question.
Because it would cause a shortage. How many times does this have to be said?Quote:
So this statement wasn't dishonest?
"Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks... Often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
So you believe him and you're against masks? I'll play this game as long as you keep dodging the question.
That statement wasn't dishonest. I'm not against masks. I'm not sure where you're confused here, but maybe I can lay it out for you.
1. Masks used by the general population at that time caused more deaths because it meant that healthcare workers couldn't respond at the same level.
2. Masks are readily available now, particularly the type that healthcare workers don't need, so the problem isn't there anymore.
3. When fauci said that, he said nothing deceptive or false. People wearing masks had the unintended consequence of making the frontline medical people unable to get the masks they needed, thereby killing more people overall.
I'm not sure if you're actually this confused or just trying to twist the narrative to fit some agenda you have. Either way, all of this has been covered 100 times.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26795757 - 06/30/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Because it would cause a shortage. How many times does this have to be said?
Saying it just once is fine. We both agree.
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Enlil said: I'm not against masks. I'm not sure where you're confused here, but maybe I can lay it out for you.
1. Masks used by the general population at that time caused more deaths because it meant that healthcare workers couldn't respond at the same level.
2. Masks are readily available now, particularly the type that healthcare workers don't need, so the problem isn't there anymore.
3. People wearing masks had the unintended consequence of making the frontline medical people unable to get the masks they needed, thereby killing more people overall.
I agree with everything here.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: So this statement wasn't dishonest?
"Right now in the United States, people should not be walking around with masks... Often there are unintended consequences. People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."
When fauci said that, he said nothing deceptive or false.
I'm not sure if you're actually this confused or just trying to twist the narrative to fit some agenda you have. Either way, all of this has been covered 100 times.
He was clearly being deceptive to get people not to buy masks. If he said "masks are important to prevent the spread of the virus", masks would have been in very short supply. Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on what is deceptive.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26795833 - 06/30/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow. I cannot imagine the hell of serving on a jury with you.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
#26795839 - 06/30/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'll bet a lot of people here would say Fauci was being deceptive by trying to keep people from buying masks.
Again, for good reason.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26795912 - 06/30/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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How is he deceptive if he literally says that "the whole point" is that healthcare workers need them more than the general public at that time?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26796047 - 07/01/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That point I agree with. It was the point before that that I thought was deceptive.
I get where you're coming from though.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: koods]
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: vinsue] 1
#26796189 - 07/01/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Falco, Enlil and Koods, how do you guys have so much free time to fucking argue about nothing?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite] 3
#26796353 - 07/01/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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White privilege.
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I knew that was coming lol
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: MightyWhite] 1
#26797331 - 07/01/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This mask debate really has me re-thinking my stance on DUI.
Personally, I always thought DUI was pretty abhorrent, but now I look around, and I think: cars are safer than ever, the state of drunkenness further reduces the chance of injury, and if I kill someone else, who gives a fuck? Individual freedom, bitches.
Maybe Matt Gaetz had the right idea.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Kryptos]
#26797746 - 07/01/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont quite follow but I'll take a bite.....are u saying that by not wearing a mask its like driving drunk on the highway, zero fucks given?
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Pretty much, yeah. Willful disregard for yourself and those around you.
The best part of the analogy is that 99% of the time, when someone DUIs, they get home safely. The other 1% of the time...well, oops.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Kryptos]
#26797900 - 07/01/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think that's too dramatic but its a total fuck you to anybody at risk in your community it's clearly not working to not wear masks, more people are dying almost half of US states are now closing because of this bullshit tanking the economy further over what? They don't want to wear masks so yeah don't wear a mask in public you're a dick to your fellow man,family and your country even if you don't realize it.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26797935 - 07/01/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think the NYT plagiarized me, their article comparing not wearing a mask to driving drunk was put up two hours after my comment.
Anyway.
I don't really see much of a difference, personally. Especially if whoever you run into doesn't die immediately at the scene. You make a decision, which again, the vast majority of the time will be harmless. I know way more people that have not been caught yet or have gotten DUIs, than I know people that have DUI'd and killed someone. Just like not wearing a mask in public will, oftentimes, not actually harm anyone. Most of the time you're completely fine not wearing a mask. Until you aren't.
Maybe it's "dramatic" because the results of a DUI are usually much more immediate, with flashing lights on the highway and blood everywhere, while someone dying of covid happens quietly, out of sight, out of mind.
That's kind of a cultural thing, though. For some reason we, as a culture, have decided that certain types of death are more, shall we say, important than others. Violent death is worth spending millions, but a quiet death in a hospital room can be forgotten. It's not a public spectacle. No blood on a highway for the news crews to take pictures of.
Edit: now that I think about it, another parallel: wearing a mask isn't 100% at stopping transmission, but it's a whole lot better than no mask. Just like driving sober isn't 100% safe, but it's a hell of a lot better than wasted.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Enlil]
#26797988 - 07/01/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Texas Honey Badger] 1
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Im all for it im stocked up gas mask filters
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Mach z 800] 2
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It's you people that are all about not wearing a mask that could be a super spreader. Asymptomatic/pre-symptomatic people can spread that virus to an easy 300 people before they even develop symptoms.
If you don't wear a mask I'm just gonna assume at this point your a selfish asshole who doesn't care about anyone else in the world.
My mask protects you and your mask protects me. All you people against masks go start a fucking colony somewhere and see how quickly it collapses without basic health care/hygiene.
It's a piece of cloth grow the fuck up and help out your fellow man/woman
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: oculodextro]
#26811373 - 07/08/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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oculodextro said: My mask protects you and your mask protects me. All you people against masks go start a fucking colony somewhere and see how quickly it collapses without basic health care/hygiene.
We did. It's why the EU, Canada, and now Mexico have closed their borders to the US.
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Re: Biden Wants to make Masks Mandatory for Public Areas [Re: Kryptos]
#26811437 - 07/08/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Touche
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