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Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag
#26783459 - 06/25/20 11:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello folks,
I was just wondering if anyone could please help me on this matter? I ordered a few grow bags with cow shit in them from Mycohaus and was wondering if I could go ahead and noc those up with Panaeolus cambodginiensis? After incubating for a month, grate the mycelium, and then case them and throw them into a fruiting chamber? The reason I'm asking too is because the grow bag has rye berries throughout the bottom and the shit on top. Does this make any difference? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Edited by StoneyTrees (06/26/20 12:15 AM)
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: StoneyTrees]
#26783647 - 06/26/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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you can do that for sure...wouldnt recommend using a spore syringe though, also you can just fruit out the bag by cutting the top off...also grating the myc isnt necessary if you break it up evenly in little pieces
peep some of mary fairchild's grows for direction
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: Je77Ce11ar]
#26783670 - 06/26/20 04:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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pans in a bag works like absolute shit. trust me ive tried everything before. bags, sgfcs, monotubs,and hcs all totally couldnt fully sustain the environmental conditions that pans require to thrive. ya you may get a cpl fruits if u have a very strong culture or you get lucky but most likely you will have lackluster results. my advice would be as stated above DO NOT use a spore syringe to inoculate with. you want to select the right kind of growth on agar first then use that. then also construct a fc that is made for pans. there is a lot of ways this can be done easy. if you click the link in my signature you will have my write up on my pan cultivation methods along with links to asuras and jakes methods in there as well.
good luck to ya and happy reading lol. just ask if ya need helpπππππ
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: jcm4620]
#26783701 - 06/26/20 05:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26783751 - 06/26/20 06:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ive seen those pics b4 butwas that a ms grow?? and the bags look like they were cut off and fruited in a chamber?? but i didnt say it wouldnt work i just said most likely you will get less than expected results with them and especially from a spore syringe as inoculant. i tried bags a cpl times also and i just found with bags fae was a big big problem. and if they were always consistantly good more ppl would be using them i would think. however i do colonize all my sub in bags tho. but then once its 100% i break it up and lay it to trays to recover fully then il case and place in my fc.
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: jcm4620]
#26783832 - 06/26/20 07:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You said "pans in a bag works like absolute shit." Which is a silly statement. That's all.
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26783992 - 06/26/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol it does work like absolute shit if your fruiting in the bag or atleast it always did when i tried it but hey if it works for ya more power to ya ππ
i suppose u could prolly have better results with bags if u could be there to open them and exchange the air several time a day. but fuck that. also sgfc i found to be more work than what its worth and same with monotubs its just really hard to get a good grow in them. ya u can get a few fruits if thats all your after it just wasnt practical for the results i am after is all.
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: jcm4620]
#26784036 - 06/26/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nah never in the bag. Cut the top and Martha those bags.
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26784085 - 06/26/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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thats what im talkin about man im talkin about fruiting in the bag not cutting it thats why i said it looked like they were cut and fruited in a chamber of some type. when i say bags are absolute shit for pans im talking using just the bag lol
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: jcm4620]
#26784448 - 06/26/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My bad
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26784487 - 06/26/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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its all good brother lol im just glad were on the same page. now we both laugh at it and agree fruiting pans in a COMPLETE bag sucks ass lolπ like i said i tried every kind of fruiting method i could think of and none of them provided sustainable environmental conditions without having to tend to it a million times a day. when i had them in a monotub and a humidity chamber both would pin fine but they would die as soon as they would get about a qtr inch above the casing. that was when i said fuck it im just gnna put somethin together lol. but i cant wait to get my marthas/greenhouses set up when i get a new house and actually have the room for them. cuz im only able to fruit 2 of those full size trays at a time. i just dont have the room for more right now. but if bags were good id use those just for saving space lol il see if i can find the pics of the pan bag grows i tried its kinda funny actually they were pretty sad lookinπͺπͺπͺπ
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26784877 - 06/26/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey gentlemen,
Thanks for the response and help! I really appreciate it! So jcm4620, you're saying I can do that but it's better to use agar? So use the syringes I have to agar, then cut open the bags when I'm ready to inoculate instead of using the injection port and just throw some in? Should I mix up the contents in the grow bags since the rye berries are on the bottom? What would be the issue if I just injected the spores into the mycobag with rye berries, substrate, and shit?
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: StoneyTrees]
#26784907 - 06/26/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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you could. but maybe the type of bag u have itd be better to put the agar to a LC. it sounds like you bought a pre made all in 1 bag. if thats the case no matter what u do is gnna b gamble. premade stuff like that is usually garbage. but you may get lucky with it. but no matter what you do id suggest usin agar first.
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: jcm4620]
#26789262 - 06/28/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks brother. Well I got two of these mycobags... If they're shit then why are they even a thing? So I shouldn't even attempt it is what your saying, so I wasted my money basically? What are those manure bags good for is their not good or made for dung loving species? What method would you suggest for Panaeolus cambodginiensis? I've always been successful with PF Tek but that was years ago and I now want to move on to a different strain and the threads for Panaeolus cambodginiensis are locked out until I make ten post at least or more, so I can't even go looking at the forums here for this strain...
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: StoneyTrees]
#26789308 - 06/28/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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click the link in my sig there you will find my panaeolus write up along with links to jakes and asuras ao everything u need will be in thereπ
im just saying if your plan was to fruit them in the bag that it wouldnt work for shit that way meanin you may get a few fruits but most likely you wont get much. pans are a picky species when it comes to their environmental conditions so you really should be fruting them in some kind of chamber designed to hold those kind of conditions. they are not as forgiving as cubes are u cant even mist them without killing them so u need to have the correct environment to keep them happy and alive and fruiting only in a bag wont do it for ya. take the time and read mine jakes and asuras write ups there is a lot of things to know.
but as far as those type of bags u have they usually dont work well cuz premade crap is usually garbage and add in the fact ur gnna shoot in spores from a syringe that is really adding to the risk of failure. with pans you really should be using agar. but check out our write ups
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Re: Panaeolus cambodginiensis Goliath grow bag [Re: jcm4620]
#26789334 - 06/28/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey check your pm i coppied my write up and pasted it into a pm for you you cant click jakes or asuras links then i guess just make some posts lol but mine should give ya lil reading for now but you really need to search jakes, asuras and blue helix write ups
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