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larry.fisherman
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does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? 2
#26781492 - 06/25/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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does it belong here? is it representative of a healthy community that is open minded and accepts change? can you have a healthy disagreement if one party decides you need to be cancelled? is there anything accomplished if the interaction is unhealthy?
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman] 10
#26781500 - 06/25/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It dont belong - we all belong.
That ish is more harmful & dangerous than just about anything out there. It’s a weak minded and cowardly. It’s pathetic to watch, because of how mindless and mob mentality driven it is, little to no skillful means involved with the cancel culture, not to mention true critical thinking and cool-headed systematic examination - but I’ve often seen it masquerade as if it did.
It leaves no room for real all inclusive growth and reconciliation between individuals and groups when it takes hold in a community.
Lame... Not the most conducive to enlightenment.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26781506 - 06/25/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ive never heard of Cancel Culture but Im eager to learn more. Off to Bing I go....
Edit: Very interesting https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/12/30/20879720/what-is-cancel-culture-explained-history-debate
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26781510 - 06/25/20 08:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: does it belong here? is it representative of a healthy community that is open minded and accepts change? can you have a healthy disagreement if one party decides you need to be cancelled? is there anything accomplished if the interaction is unhealthy?
I'm leaving this thread because of the topic.....am I cancel culturing right?
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26781522 - 06/25/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Ive never heard of Cancel Culture but Im eager to learn more. Off to Bing I go....
Edit: Very interesting https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/12/30/20879720/what-is-cancel-culture-explained-history-debate
its mainly a twitter thing, mainly done by SJW's, Richard Stallman the creator of GNU got hit hard, GNU was his baby and he had to step down from Founder/President, he said some bad stuff, but its just because he was autistic not that he was actually a bad person
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#26781528 - 06/25/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think it depends on if the person actually tries to make amends and owning up to responsibility. I think multiple infractions of such offences isn't really a cancelling of the person, but it will make more people dislike and not support them. Sticking up to what you believe to be morally right, and not supporting someone because it goes against them (depending on severity), should be considered a right for people.
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larry.fisherman said: does it belong here? is it representative of a healthy community that is open minded and accepts change? can you have a healthy disagreement if one party decides you need to be cancelled? is there anything accomplished if the interaction is unhealthy?
It is representative of a healthy community if that person takes personal account of something wrong and makes amends. Remaining open minded for another chance if that is done. Yes I think you can have a healthy disagreement if you move past it. No, nothing is really accomplished if the interaction is unhealthy. I would advise people to just stop if it becomes too toxic.
I don't think I like the term cancel culture all that much tbh.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman] 2
#26781529 - 06/25/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: does it belong here? is it representative of a healthy community that is open minded and accepts change? can you have a healthy disagreement if one party decides you need to be cancelled? is there anything accomplished if the interaction is unhealthy?
Bob Marley, Jah Bless, had a tumor on his toe.
He didnt cancel it.
It canceled him.
R.I.P Greatest Reggae Artist & Fine Humanitarian.
Germany didnt cancel the Nazi Party. We all know how that went.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman] 1
#26781533 - 06/25/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: does it belong here? is it representative of a healthy community that is open minded and accepts change? can you have a healthy disagreement if one party decides you need to be cancelled? is there anything accomplished if the interaction is unhealthy?
it already exists stand up for trans rights, gay rights, feminism, racial equality get brigaded by angry boys
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: Asante] 2
#26781535 - 06/25/20 08:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Might as well cancel out all of humanity - because your never going to negate that part of human nature. It doesn’t arise In a vacuum.
Your subject to it as much as anyone is.
And the Nazis were the epitome of cancel culture you dope....
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: The Blind Ass] 3
#26781544 - 06/25/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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And the Nazis were the epitome of cancel culture you dope....
Don't you see the connection? Nazis and cancer both are "cancel cultures". If you don't cancel them, they will cancel you. They will metastatize like the cancer in bob marley's toe or the political cancer in Germany spreading out over Europe.
Some things must be cancelled for the greater good, just like unsafe nuclear power plants should be shut down.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: larry.fisherman] 7
#26781545 - 06/25/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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People should try and train themselves to be less offended. Can't think it's healthy to be on the lookout for what other people say online and getting all swept up in anger.
People who truly go out of their way to be malicious in their interactions with others can't truly function in society anyways, so the internet is a dream come true in terms of "being heard". They will always find refuge online.
I don't support internet-bullying because it's possibly the lamest thing a human being can do with his/her time...
However, I don't think words represented via one's and zero's should be given so much weight in the first place if it happens to offend you.
The internet also shapes the illusion of being frozen in time. So anything you do on here is 'seemingly' captured forever. I think people forget that people change. I think people forget we are all people and say and do stupid shit all the time.
Another thing the internet does, it makes everyone else seem like little avatars, and not breathing, struggling human beings.
'It's just a little image, and it can do nothing to me if I say something bad' - is what I imagine a lot of people think unconsciously.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: Asante] 1
#26781569 - 06/25/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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The Blind Ass said:
And the Nazis were the epitome of cancel culture you dope....
Don't you see the connection? Nazis and cancer both are "cancel cultures". If you don't cancel them, they will cancel you. They will metastatize like the cancer in bob marley's toe or the political cancer in Germany spreading out over Europe.
Some things must be cancelled for the greater good, just like unsafe nuclear power plants should be shut down.
I see the connection. Do You see the other one? Your rational was literally how they justified what they did
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26781602 - 06/25/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you appreciate the difference between benevolence and malevolence?
A toe and hippy culture are benevolent, a tumor and nazi culture are malevolent.
With cancer you cut it, nuke it or chemo it.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: Asante] 2
#26781619 - 06/25/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Forget I ever said anything.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#26781625 - 06/25/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont understand nothing he said either
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: The Blind Ass] 1
#26781641 - 06/25/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Forget I ever said anything.
You will have to accept that some things must be preserved and others, discarded, which of the two, is in accordance with their nature.
If you go amanita hunting to get high you pick the fly agarics and the panthers but you keep away from the destroying angels.
Its only common sense.
Do I hate destroying angels as if I'm a Nazi? No, but I just wont eat them under any circumstances if I can help it and I would fight to preventb other from accidentally ingesting them.
You can facepalm all you want, but its really clear as day. You are not willing to accept that to uphold a community, some trends must be cancelled out. I was a staffer for 16 years, you can take it on faith that this is so. Some things must be cancelled from forum culture.
Example? Child porn. Would you want the Shroomery to have a lively child molestor culture who swap pics and bragging stories how they groomed and fucked so and so, pics included? Would you want a psycho posting collages of pictures of dogs he shot while they were being walked? Thats whats out there.
I think you get the gist.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: Asante] 2
#26781666 - 06/25/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ummm, Jamaicans aren't tolerant, mostly. It sucks but I have seen a few docs and they are showing the reigning attitude and religion there as extremely negative and hateful towards ALL lgbtq peoples.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-22/homophobia-in-jamaican-music-one-love-one-hate-one-hope/8711620
"It is not One Love in Jamaica. Jamaican people are homophobic and that won't change," he says.
Boom bye-bye Inna batty bwoy head Rude bwoy no promote no nasty man Dem haffi dead
Translated, that means: "Boom, bye-bye, in a faggot's head, the tough young guys don't accept fags, they have to die."
It's a reflection of how many Jamaicans see themselves — strong, proud and unashamedly sexual. Within that pride is a deep certainty real men are heterosexual.
While Jamaica threw off colonial rule it retained the British prohibition on sodomy. Even today, it's punishable by 10 years in prison with hard labour. Any gay man reporting a hate crime to police risks finding himself arrested.
Pastor Randolph Samuels of the Equator Faith Mission Church makes no apologies for railing against gays and lesbians in his sermons.
"Homosexuality is wrong and the Bible condemns it," he says.
Not to mention the misogyny etc...I will ALWAYS say something when people bring up bob marley and that one love BS about Jamaica, no apologies.
On topic: I have never heard of the term "cancel culture" until just now.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26781701 - 06/25/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I cancel this thread! If that doesn't work I'll eat enough benzos I won't remember it... problem solved
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: Ice9] 1
#26781755 - 06/25/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This website has had people discussing and even advocating for pedophilia, rape, and cannibalism.
What makes the site unique is it's openness to entertain ideas.
But we've never stopped the community arguing against them
We do however prefer to keep attacks from getting too personal or nasty and try to make sure that people aren't crusaded against.
Again why I have my single ignore. I met someone with ideas I, usually tolerant me, couldn't help but want to crusade against and bash at every turn in every thread. If I did that I would not be acting with the maturity this community has in its core principles.
We only draw a hard line where it has to be drawn. See Asantes post.
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Re: does cancel culture belong on the shroomery? [Re: CookieCrumbs] 2
#26781762 - 06/25/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I personally prefer bad ideas are logicked against.
In large part because just because someone doesn't voice the idea doesn't mean they don't have it.
That's why openness is important. But it does have to go both ways. What I see as wrong in cancel culture is bad faith. Assuming the one being attacked isn't open to other logic.
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