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Darwin23
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I watch a handful of pedophile-catching vigilante channels on Youtube. The videos are endless. It's as if the internet is full of them in every city. Despite watching hundreds of these videos with these pedophiles, I still haven't determined why. Why is this so widespread? What do pedophiles get out of it? The developmentally delayed 20-year-olds trying to meet a 15-year-old are few and far between. The great majority of those caught are middle-aged and trying to meet 12,13,14-year-old children.
What do you think drives them?
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Why do people like chocolates? because they're sweet.
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Darwin23
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Buster_Brown said: Why do people like chocolates? because they're sweet.
Sure, but I don't much see what that has to do with this. Having a fetish is one thing but if that fetish hurts people and can destroy your life, I'd assume you'd be less inclined to do engage with it. Yet, decoy profiles are always inundated with people willing to harm others and take that risk themselves.
That's what I don't understand.
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Maybe we would be better off in this argument if we invited RedGreenVines in to determine which of our arguments is rational or merely associative. Do you agree?
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I am curious how you guys became captivated by the subject.
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I guess it's pretty much self-evident in this case that the hostile witness is fueled by an emotional quotient.
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perhaps proto-pedo?
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I'm not necessarily perplexed by the fact that people can feel attracted to children (I'm not into feet but can understand and accept that tons of guys are). I'm perplexed by the fact that so many act on those impulses. I certainly am coming from an emotional perspective because I consider it harmful and abusive.
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Will you compare your attitude to the popular "Reefer Madness" attitude in the 50's and allow that it has the possibility of evolving?
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How is it similar to the "Reefer Madness" attitude of the 1950's? Are you suggesting that sex with children is perhaps not as harmful as I feel it is and so I appear to be overreacting because I'm overestimating the damage it causes?
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How is it similar to the "Reefer Madness" attitude of the 1950's?
If the media didn't excite an emotional anti-marijuana fervor by it's portrayal of reefer-madness then I would agree that the cases are dissimilar-But they're not.
At this time do you agree with these similarities and the manipulations the media has on popular opinion?
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Do I agree that could be influenced by manipulation by the media?
Sure, probably to an extent.
Why don't we have a discussion instead of a debate? I feel like you're trying to get me to state some fact to then come back with "Aha! logical fallacy!" I'm open to ideas
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Okay, for what it's worth we have brought in the possibility that the media inflates an emotional response.
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I believe that's fair. At the same time, though, the videos out these days are very factual and follow identical formulas (backstory - chat logs - confrontation - predator calls partner/parent/sibling or gets arrested).
This dude does tread a little dangerously as he sexualizes the chats while most others will don't want to take the risk of being in entrapment territory. This one is also a bit unique because there is a news statement from one of his former victims while most who are caught are just anonymous.
To go back to part of what I can't wrap my head around, here is one of the top comments: "Dude is in a band. Older emo chicks would be fighting over him (I've seen it myself) WTF you wanna be messing with a 13 year old."
They'll always give an excuse but never their true motivation which is why I'm so confused by it. If you're attracted to younger looking girls, go for an 18-year-old who maybe looks younger. That's not a crime and that's not harmful, at all. This semi-famous lead singer obviously had options but consciously chose a 13-year-old while knowing that it very well could ruin his life and fuck her up.
The drive and thought process behind someone making that decision is what I want to understand.
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When our wellbeing is controlled by state-media there's a possibility that 'understanding' is remote.
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why do you feel compelled to get closer to this particular corner of experience? the mind's afflicted behavior becomes a pattern, then, yes the habit kicks in, who knows, maybe he started by reading accounts of pedophiles.
I think the line of inquiry will not bring you much peace, and may actually get you a piece of what you should keep clear of.
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For a perspective- the relationship you have with a dog is purely between the two of you; it's like that with a child. Grown-ups have ulterior agendas.
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Holy fuck my running thoughts would go absolutely nuts and I would feel so fucking ashamed if that was me in the video. Jesus christ.
I have some hebephile tendencies and I think most men have - it's completely normal but I would never act on it and I'd much rather pick older women around my age 20 - 40. I'm mostly turned off by the immaturity of young girls but I never had sex in my puberty with a girl in puberty so something attracts me slightly more than normal to young girls but I have no particular interest in them and when I see a beautiful 12 - 16 year old girl I think to myself that she is beautiful and if I was 12 - 16 y/o I would definitely hit her up, but I think nothing more of her. My hebephile tendencies are of no concern to me - thank God!
Darwin23: it's simple, the dude in the video seems to be exclusively attracted to girls in puberty and maybe even younger and only slightly or not at all attracted to older women, if he's more than just slightly attracted to older women, he's looking for a thrill and his sexual orientation got the better of him. It's important to remember this whole thing is just as natural as age consent sex. Being exclusively attracted to girls in puberty and even younger girls must seriously suck big time, I sympathize with the dude in the video if his intension was to make love to the girl and obey her and not just fuck her and leave her after that. Like Icelander once said: No harm, no foul. 
The men and women over at virped.org are seriously heroes in my world.
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Confession: I remember back when I was 20, I was browsing 4chan and the likes and I saw pictures of naked girls in puberty ages 12 - 16, I jacked off to it 5 or 6 times. It was thrilling but there was absolutely no way I would ever try to hit up a girl in puberty IRL at that time - in fact I was and am turned off by the young bodies and psychological immaturity, it's kind of a catch 22 since I found the pictures on 4chan intriguing. But it's not really a catch 22 either, since I had never seen a naked girl in puberty, it was fascinating. I'm 30 now and can't fathom looking at such pictures again, it feels very wrong and I feel sorry for the young girl having naked pictures of herself uploaded on the Internet. Even looking at 18 year olds in porn makes me feel bad, they may be 18 but surely most of them are not mature enough to consent in pornography.
Now a days I jack off to Facebook-pictures of ex'es and women on my friend list. It fills the thrill I seek in masturbation and it feels right. On the rare occasion I jack off to regular porn but it doesn't feel right.
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This may sound like a dumb question - but do pedophiles not enjoi sex with people their own age or something?
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