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Hyphal knots/primordia?
#26777750 - 06/23/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure I'm the millionth person to ask, but can someone verify these are knots? I've been lurking and learning.. this is my first birthed jar.


 https://files.shroomery.org/files/20-26/296521606-20200623_170636.jpg

*edit* Birthed Sunday 21 June 2020 at appx 3:30 pm PST. Kept forgetting to add that useful info
*facepalm*.... another edit. Hawaiian PES
Edited by Cegda (06/25/20 02:38 PM)
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26777911 - 06/23/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don’t know how long ago you birthed your cake(s), but you have yet to get any hyphal knots. The mycelium is just now starting to puff out and get ready to form the knots. BRF cakes normally take 7-14 days before they show any signs of primordia or pinning. Go look at my recent thread entitled “Treasure Coast Pt. 2” and the last post is a good example of primordia and hyphal knotting
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: jazzycnt]
#26778374 - 06/24/20 04:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Knot tend to be a little bigger.

All those dots here are knots.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: jazzycnt]
#26778546 - 06/24/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, that tray of yours looks like it's doing great. I like your focus on consistency too.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26779893 - 06/24/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The more I look at pictures of knots, the more I come to the conclusion I should just take pictures of mine and compare... pics look way different than reality. It'd be cool to see like day to day pictures of growth.
Edited by Cegda (06/24/20 05:12 PM)
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26779940 - 06/24/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another picture of knots. (For comparison)
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Zen999]
#26779972 - 06/24/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Taking pictures and comparing to other pictures is the way to go.
Especially with stuff like water beads on the surface, pictures show stuff way more clearly.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: A.k.a]
#26780017 - 06/24/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some Knott's.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Sockadin]
#26780112 - 06/24/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The knots specifically being the bright white dots?
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26780118 - 06/24/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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or like beige in your pic sock
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26780213 - 06/24/20 07:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Both. They start out white but sometimes turn yellow or beige as the start to turn to pins.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: A.k.a]
#26780220 - 06/24/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Patience sucks lol... can't wait to see all the stages.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26780342 - 06/24/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well you’re like 98% through once you have knots.
One morning you’ll have like 5 pins and then they’ll multiply for a couple days then start doubling in size overnight.
If you’ve had knots for a couple days you’ll prob harvest in a week at most.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: A.k.a]
#26782047 - 06/25/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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 Just took these. Seeing growth, but is it just fluffy mycelium?
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26782092 - 06/25/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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There you go!! That is a prime example of hypha knotting starting to form
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: jazzycnt]
#26782177 - 06/25/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's news I needed today! Wish I had started this a decade ago, every bit of it is amazing.. just snapped some pics of the other jars I have colonizing, it's cool to see the growth from day to day.

Inoculated 8 days ago, 17 June 2020
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26782191 - 06/25/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can see the rhizos and easily identify that.. if I get into growing like I think I'm going to, I'll do a day by day from birthing to pins. I've looked but can't find anything that really helps me understand and identify knots..
I think I have it and maybe I just need to see it actually happen, but I know I'm not the only one confused.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26783201 - 06/25/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once you go through a couple grows, and see hyphal knotting in different circumstances, it will be very evident to you. I don’t know how many jars you inoculated, but I recommend you do a mono tub next. You will get better yields, and the process happens a bit faster. You can go through some of my previous posts and collect the info you need to do a monotub. Or, obviously look around on here!
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: jazzycnt]
#26783273 - 06/25/20 09:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was leaning more towards multiple shoeboxes.. but I have all the stuff for wbs jars and either 1 monotub or a few shoeboxes. Figured I'd do brf first since it seems to be the recommended beginner tek.
I will probably use a few cakes for shoeboxes with cvg too.
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Re: Hyphal knots/primordia? [Re: Cegda]
#26783277 - 06/25/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have only tried WBS once and it didn’t work for me.. I use bed cakes then crush them and add to substrate. It’s easy af and almost foolproof. I may do WBS eventually, but why change what works right?
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