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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778498 - 06/24/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: Let's wind down, your situation with JSB is tomorrow's worry.
only if you allow such an abusive and misogynistic individual to remain on staff
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika]
#26778513 - 06/24/20 06:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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JSB has received direction in PM about this matter, if this becomes a trend, it becomes another matter.
I can't escape the notion he was trolling you.
It does not go unnoticed unmentioned and unacted upon.
No worries.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778520 - 06/24/20 06:31 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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And separately, in JSB's defense: It is entirely possible that consensual actuions were passed off as rape for financial reasons. This happens a lot, especially with famous people.
Whether this is the case or not is up for the judge to decide.
JSB, yes, mouth rape. if a person is afraid of their lives they will do anything, including herding children into gas chambers and sucking the dick of a Japanese Imperial officer who wants to assert his dominance in building the railroad.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika]
#26778522 - 06/24/20 06:34 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: Its kinda like outing someone, except at having been raped at age 6.
What a disrespectful portrayal
You did out me as a rape victim and even discolsed the way in which I was raped and said they should ask me how that is possible.
Imagine me having been away from the forum and receiving a PM going "excuse me, I was told you got raped in your mouth. Why didnt you bite? Are you sure it was rape?"
Have a rest, reread the thread, we're done fighting, at least I am.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778523 - 06/24/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: JSB has received direction in PM about this matter, if this becomes a trend, it becomes another matter.
It is already a trend, am just his newest target
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Asante said: I can't escape the notion he was trolling you.
should certainly hope so, few people hold such shitty views but they do and enable sexual violence against vulnerable individuals
but hope that the notion also does not escape you that you seem to be downplaying him as a moderator breaking the first rule in the Pub Rules and Guidelines and that his behaviour as an authority figure sets precedent for users
so while it is genuinely appreciated that you have come in and spoken now be aware when other users perform misogynistic trolling or directed harassment on such basis that they are following what seems to be acceptable among the staff
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Asante said: It does not go unnoticed unmentioned and unacted upon.
No worries.
it seems to have done so before it got to me and am severely worried that when he changes targets again, that person will not be brave enough or respected enough to call it out
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778525 - 06/24/20 06:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: Its kinda like outing someone, except at having been raped at age 6.
What a disrespectful portrayal
You did out me as a rape victim and even discolsed the way in which I was raped and said they should ask me how that is possible.
Have a rest, reread the thread, we're done fighting, at least I am.
 as someone who was not fighting in the first place but had to deal with you confronting me with false accusations, am glad you are ready to reread the thread when you have a rest
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778531 - 06/24/20 06:41 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It didnt take much rereading:
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Jokeshopbeard said: How can a make rape someones mouth? Jaws are very strong, as are teeth.
Can someone please explain this to me?
you could ask Asante, pretty sure that is where he was raped and provided accounts of how his abuser threatened him with death and stuff if he even told let alone fought back
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778538 - 06/24/20 06:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: It didnt take much rereading:
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Asante said: There's an irony in that you are starting a rape dick sizing contest in a thread about Ron Jeremy's probable sexual misconduct.
Maybe they could start a Rate My Rape site where people go in all the gory details and ins and outs of the ramifications for their lives and have a jury of their peers upvote and downvote them on a hierarchy of who had it worst.
I'm in a "rude in, rude out" mood.
First you insinuate I trivialized your rape, then you trivially reference the details of mine, then you go "well mine was worse" - that's Rude In.
As far as I'm concerned the above constitutes "Rude Out" and we can continue respecting each other as civil adults from there on hence.
remember, this was in response to me indicating that anal and oral rape are not the same you decided to go on a tirade after wrongfully perceiving my statement as being some way to cheapen your experience rather than to simply state you had a different experience from my own
but sure, please double down on how me repeating your public statements is me outing you and then be prepared for every incoming report of people outing me as trans
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26778540 - 06/24/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You're a trip, Tantrika.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778541 - 06/24/20 06:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: You're a trip, Tantrika.
it's not me, it's the mushrooms sending y'all messages through me
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 9
#26778577 - 06/24/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You do see how Asante is upset? Yes he did post that a long time ago, but that doesn't make it open to throw around and bring up. It was a moment he felt comfortable to talk a out it and probably did not expect someone on here to dig that up and put it out there again without even asking if he was comfortable with it or anything.
It's just good to not overstep boundaries. I mean no offence.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: SonicTitan]
#26778624 - 06/24/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: You do see how Asante is upset? Yes he did post that a long time ago, but that doesn't make it open to throw around and bring up. It was a moment he felt comfortable to talk a out it and probably did not expect someone on here to dig that up and put it out there again without even asking if he was comfortable with it or anything.
It's just good to not overstep boundaries. I mean no offence.
Can respect your position rather than "a" moment it is one of multiple with a number more recent
was not meaning to overstep boundaries, so do not take your statement as offense was genuinely of the view that since he has shared it multiple times in public he would be willing to do so as a means of educating his member of staff
can also respect that this is apparently a difference of approaches to life that was unfamiliar to me previously personally appreciate people opening a space for me to speak on issues like my encounters with abuse, my struggles with suicide, or my transition; it makes me feel safer knowing that someone has offered to stand on the side and step in should people speak shit did not realize Asante had wanted to cover his experience back up, and if he feels that my statements were too far he has my sincere apologies for not having picked up on that sentiment
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 4
#26778659 - 06/24/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: It was a moment he felt comfortable to talk a out it and probably did not expect someone on here to dig that up and put it out there again without even asking if he was comfortable with it or anything.
rather than "a" moment it is one of multiple with a number more recent
was genuinely of the view that since he has shared it multiple times in public he would be willing to do so as a means of educating his member of staff
did not realize Asante had wanted to cover his experience back up
They were several moments thast I spoke of it, but they were moments chosen by me to share what I wanted to share to the people I wanted to share it to, for the reasons I wanted to share it for.
I'm not covering my experience back up, and if I want to use those experiences as an example to Jokeshopbeard then I will do so of my own volition, instead of having you, a felow rape victim, use my experience to reply to a poster you are at that time at odds with.
"Wanna know what its like to get orally raped? PM Asante for details", which is all frills aside basically what ou said, violates all rape victim etiquette. We don't have a centralized rulebook, but no, its #MeToo and not #ThatOtherPersonToo, that's outing, especially if it is accompanied with factual details of the rape. Imagine I did that to you. I don't think it would sit well either.
You first in a post said I had trivialized your rape and then you put mine in the limelight in technicolor, later fortified with a quote sourced a year ago in another forum.
Thats OTD-like behavior.
Black people own the N-word and a rape victim owns their rape, the details and aspects of it, that's something you earn through victimhood.
I accept your apology of course but you don't appear to see whats wrong with it.
I'm not upset anymore just astonished that this nuance eludes you when you are so meticulous about how you yourself wish to be approached on such sensitive matters 
The forum can have their fun with my habanero-anus antic, but this is on another level, you don't rub peoples nose through the intimate details of their being violently molested at age 6.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante] 8
#26778678 - 06/24/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I walked into a thread and found someone using some of the worst experiences of my life in order to argue with someone... I would not be unable to see that as a violation of my trust in the community.
Such as it is with some members.
Because, among other things, context means a great deal. It's not opening up about an issue and taking the community into confidence, as it was when it was first posted. It's using it for one's own agenda. It would not matter if I agree with that agenda or not.
That's the only thing that's bothering me here. Some people in this thread are acting in ways I would not expect them to act. I would expect them to know better.
Not hating. Just... concerned.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778685 - 06/24/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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SonicTitan said: It was a moment he felt comfortable to talk a out it and probably did not expect someone on here to dig that up and put it out there again without even asking if he was comfortable with it or anything.
rather than "a" moment it is one of multiple with a number more recent
was genuinely of the view that since he has shared it multiple times in public he would be willing to do so as a means of educating his member of staff
did not realize Asante had wanted to cover his experience back up
They were several moments thast I spoke of it, but they were moments chosen by me to share what I wanted to share to the people I wanted to share it to, for the reasons I wanted to share it for.
I'm not covering my experience back up, and if I want to use those experiences as an example to Jokeshopbeard then I will do so of my own volition, instead of having you, a felow rape victim, use my experience to reply to a poster you are at that time at odds with.
Thanks for letting me now you never conveyed such when you posted about it it was nothing to do with being "at odds with" JSB appeared to be genuinely uninformed on the matter and you had a more direct line of experience to speak on
have been in touch with my other friend to let her know about sharing her experience here she told me "rock on, don't let those misogynistic pieces of shit act like women want to be raped" so also recognize that your sentiment is in contrast with others who speak publicly on such matters
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Asante said: "Wanna know what its like to get orally raped? PM Asante for details", which is all frills aside basically what ou said, violates all rape victim etiquette. We don't have a centralized rulebook, but no, its #MeToo and not #ThatOtherPersonToo, that's outing, especially if it is accompanied with factual details of the rape. Imagine I did that to you. I don't think it would sit well either.
Have stated in the content you cut from my post that it would be my preference for you to do me that as a favour so as to know that idiots like JSB would not have free reign to attack me in sharing my experience
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Asante said: You first in a post said I had trivialized your rape and then you put mine in the limelight in technicolor, later fortified with a quote sourced a year ago in another forum.
Love how you apologized for something, then turn around and try to use it against me but by all means tell me how me being willing to support you in talking about your experience is:
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Asante said: Black people own the N-word and a rape victim owns their rape, the details and aspects of it, that's something you earn through victimhood.
which is why no details were provided aside from those which you had already posted in public forum this is not me getting PMs from you and saying "omg guys guess what" this was me saying "uh, did you miss it? your own administrator has gone through the awful experience you are trying to belittle
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Asante said: I accept your apology of course but you don't appear to see whats wrong with it.
And ask you to explain such, because you seem to have a lot bigger problem with me having wanted to support you than with the moderator that was attacking the reality of your experience
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#26778687 - 06/24/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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CookieCrumbs said: If I walked into a thread and found someone using some of the worst experiences of my life in order to argue with someone... I would not be unable to see that as a violation of my trust in the community.
Awesome, you just recontextualized the whole thing for me my bumbling was just a karmic feedback after Asante had intentionally violated my own trust with his position as community manager
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 2
#26778688 - 06/24/20 08:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think it’s time this thread get back on track. Everyone has said their bit.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: SARAtonin] 1
#26778695 - 06/24/20 08:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If Tantrika And W_S want to discuss this further that’s up to them but I don’t see any reason for anyone else to butt in with their 2 cents.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: SARAtonin] 1
#26778698 - 06/24/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said: I think it’s time this thread get back on track. Everyone has said their bit.
I agree it is no surprise that a publicly professed sex addict like Ron Jeremy would end up facing accusations of him violating the sexual standards of others
as has been shown with regards to the industry that made him "famous" it is not uncommon for male actors to also assault their coworkers and to be empowered for having done it, because refusal to work with them further can risk an actress having her employment in the industry minimized rather than transgressors facing real punishment
and, to reiterate, a whole lot of this is informed by social sentiments that treat male actors as sex gods getting too much easy pussy to bother with rape and to treat female actresses as filthy sluts who will do more than they agree to
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika]
#26778733 - 06/24/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a hard time seeing how anyone could be taken aback by this. Over a decade ago Ron Jeremy started a World of Warcraft podcast and I remember there being a lot of talk about his misconducts and abuses then in the guild I was in at the time.
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