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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: LikeMyc]
#26778200 - 06/24/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This reminds me of the Brett Kavanaugh case when everyone defended that cash grabbing woman while she destroyed this man's life. How about them apples. I'm sure anyone can Google a lot more similar apples.
But whats the point? To show what the odds are in this case? Dismiss an arguement with statistics? Why do I feel I have to defend myself after stating a fact?
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: LikeMyc]
#26778209 - 06/24/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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LikeMyc said: This reminds me of the Brett Kavanaugh case when everyone defended that cash grabbing woman while she destroyed this man's life. How about them apples. I'm sure anyone can Google a lot more similar apples.
Destroyed a man's life? pretty sure he got the job even tho any reasonable person will tell you he was lying through his teeth and was more likely guilty of the rape, and that the court failing to show such does not mean he is innocent
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LikeMyc said: But whats the point? To show what the odds are in this case? Dismiss an arguement with statistics? Why do I feel I have to defend myself after stating a fact?
You don't have to defend your shitty points you could stop posting and simply acknowledge that filth like Brock Turner can rape an unconcious woman in an alley, with witnesses to catch him and get off with light sentencing because the judge is more worried a privileged white kid may lose his chances in life if he is meaningfully held accountable for his actions while people will still defend his rape, still defend his light sentencing, and still defend the culture that enables it all
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26778222 - 06/24/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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LikeMyc said: Sure it goes many ways. But we cant compare these apples batches. There a way more instances of woman playing victim with evil agendas than any type of rape hugging scenario you can come up with.
prove it go get me the statistics on the frequency of rape and the frequency of false rape accusations
Like I said, we can't compare batches. You are solely speaking about rape while I am speaking about behavior that has been used in many circumstances across time. Women behavior regardless of situation, i.e. rape.
so what you are saying is we need to broaden the batch from men who rape to men who are violent and men who act entitled
got it
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LikeMyc said: That is what you did, not me. I displayed the spoiled batch and here you come with claims of another spoiled batch to defend your view.
Pretty sure this thread had me calling out the frequency of rape as the first reply thus making your claims that women lie about it and make us a spoiled batch the one used as a defense but don't let me get you hung up with things like chronological posting times
"so what you are saying is we need to broaden the batch from men who rape to men who are violent and men who act entitled"
IDK where you got that from. Lets stay on whatever topic this is and not try to twist things.
"Pretty sure this thread had me calling out the frequency of rape as the first reply thus making your claims that women lie about it and make us a spoiled batch the one used as a defense but don't let me get you hung up with things like chronological posting times"
That's a misperception. I made a statement about women behavior that can be applied here. At the end of the day, it is women behavior that is not limited to rape. The reason I point out that it is not limited to rape, within a rape discussion, is because it infers how much more often it is used against men, which this discussion seems to include as well. Especially when you state that men jump to protect accused rapist of women.
I skimmed through your last post. It shows why there is even an arguement here. Feminist Justice Warrior.
This thread is exhausting. I'm out.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: LikeMyc]
#26778236 - 06/24/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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LikeMyc said: "so what you are saying is we need to broaden the batch from men who rape to men who are violent and men who act entitled"
IDK where you got that from. Lets stay on whatever topic this is and not try to twist things.
You said that things could not be compared because you chose a more broad category of behaviour since violence and entitlement are the behaviours involved in rape that makes the category as broad as yours or do you feel it needs to go broader to compare dem apples?
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LikeMyc said: "Pretty sure this thread had me calling out the frequency of rape as the first reply thus making your claims that women lie about it and make us a spoiled batch the one used as a defense but don't let me get you hung up with things like chronological posting times"
That's a misperception. I made a statement about women behavior that can be applied here. At the end of the day, it is women behavior that is not limited to rape. The reason I point out that it is not limited to rape, within a rape discussion, is because it infers how much more often it is used against men, which this discussion seems to include as well. Especially when you state that men jump to protect accused rapist of women.
so your position is legitimately that lying about other things therefor infers lying about rape or to otherwise harm men due to your individual perception of frequency of dishonesty between people but you want to try and claim that men being violent and entitled, attitudes relevant to rape, in other regards is straying from the topic
and you do all this in defense of rapists by alluding to the fact that since women lie at least as frequently as you yourself do they can't be trusted when calling out men for rape
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LikeMyc said: I skimmed through your last post. It shows why there is even an arguement here. Feminist Justice Warrior.

point out the flaws in your position and that you are promoting defense of the culture that enables people like Brock Turner to rape and you tuck tail and run faster than the moderator because you have no real argument

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LikeMyc said: This thread is exhausting. I'm out. 
Take care, hope to see you again the next time you feel a potential rapist needs defending :blowskisses:
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26778246 - 06/24/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: zZZz] 1
#26778276 - 06/24/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 2
#26778291 - 06/24/20 01:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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but who knows, Asante has told me to get over my own rape
I have been traumatized more than most and the getting over it phase is a pretty essential step of the process. Its when the hard work you have done to confront your woes, pays off and your sensitivity to getting triggered by it decreases greatly.
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Jokeshopbeard said: How can a make rape someones mouth? Jaws are very strong, as are teeth.
Can someone please explain this to me?
you could ask Asante, pretty sure that is where he was raped and provided accounts of how his abuser threatened him with death and stuff if he even told let alone fought back
I should "talk shop" about your rape like that, totally!
Being a fragile orchid about what happened to you and just throw the ham in the front yard about what happened to someone else.
LIVING IN VICTIMHOOD SPOILS THE PERSONALITY.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778297 - 06/24/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Can someone please explain this to me?
you could ask Asante, pretty sure that is where he was raped and provided accounts of how his abuser threatened him with death and stuff if he even told let alone fought back
I should "talk shop" about your rape like that, totally!
Being a fragile orchid about what happened to you and just throw the ham in the front yard about what happened to someone else.
LIVING IN VICTIMHOOD SPOILS THE PERSONALITY.
Have a nice day 
unlike you, was anally penetrated it was pain, it was confusion, and tho there has not been need for me to publicly relay that and it is not at all personally informative with regards to how oral rapes are performed it is integrated better than you think, but still triggering just like you got triggered by my posting about your previous public statements would you have felt better if your posts on the topic had been brought in as quotes?
it's the middle of the night here, but have a nice day yourself

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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 3
#26778323 - 06/24/20 02:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's an irony in that you are starting a rape dick sizing contest in a thread about Ron Jeremy's probable sexual misconduct.
Maybe they could start a Rate My Rape site where people go in all the gory details and ins and outs of the ramifications for their lives and have a jury of their peers upvote and downvote them on a hierarchy of who had it worst.
I'm in a "rude in, rude out" mood.
First you insinuate I trivialized your rape, then you trivially reference the details of mine, then you go "well mine was worse" - that's Rude In.
As far as I'm concerned the above constitutes "Rude Out" and we can continue respecting each other as civil adults from there on hence.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778328 - 06/24/20 02:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: There's an irony in that you are starting a rape dick sizing contest in a thread about Ron Jeremy's probable sexual misconduct.
Am not doing that at all, but if you want to swing it that way we can
maybe ease off your testosterone pills see what was just done there? the same thing with one of your mods trying to blame my behaviour on medications for my health
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Asante said: Maybe they could start a Rate My Rape site where people go in all the gory details and ins and outs of the ramifications for their lives and have a jury of their peers upvote and downvote them on a hierarchy of who had it worst.
Again, you have posted about the details and because you have done so am aware that they are applicable to your moderators questions where my own experience was not simply call attention to my not publicly relaying it previously because there are a number of posters who already know much more detailed accounts of what happened to me
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Asante said: I'm in a "rude in, rude out" mood.
mhm
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Asante said: First you insinuate I trivialized your rape, then you trivially reference the details of mine, then you go "well mine was worse" - that's Rude In.
you were politely asked for a trigger warning and did not provide it when it was expressed as necessary as was concluded in that thread, the fault was mine for trusting you to provide what was asked for
but am not stating mine was worse, am stating mine was different and not applicable to the question asked mine was a single instance of being tricked then overpowered by a family friend with ascribed authority followed by threats to my life and family for years until my abusers death
yours, if you will allow me to recall from memory rather than direct quotation of your posts, was an instance of family exploitation and ongoing abuse
do not think there is a balanced way to quantify the impacts based on what aspect of our personhood the monsters decided to exploit
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Asante said: As far as I'm concerned the above constitutes "Rude Out" and we can continue respecting each other as civil adults from there on hence.
real talk, would you have preferred me to have provided quotations rather than suggesting you deserve a platform to speak with regards to the question?
seem to recall it in political discussion providing an account to another user, but would have to use the search feature to pin it down
with regards to "rude out" feel free to quote or refer to my statements on my experience in this thread where you feel it is applicable but know that my willingness to go into further details in a community so hostile to victims is incredibly low
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26778356 - 06/24/20 03:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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you were politely asked for a trigger warning and did not provide it when it was expressed as necessary as was concluded in that thread, the fault was mine for trusting you to provide what was asked for
Diplomatic, ever-caring me, did not for one moment believe that you would have been triggered by that video, which of all things was supportive of your side of the argument.
That was my mistake.
If apologies are not enough, I don't know what is.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778406 - 06/24/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: If apologies are not enough, I don't know what is.
how about a sincere apology instead of this
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Asante said: Diplomatic, ever-caring me, did not for one moment believe that you would have been triggered by that video,
here's one for you Diplomatic, ever-caring me, told you exactly what was needed on my end to engage in discussion of a video you posted; because my initial entry into that thread was coloured by wanting to discuss the issue
and you decided that you were a clearly a better judge than me, and deceived me to try and get me to watch the video sooner rather than later and have since then attempted to lecture me multiple times that it is me who is in the wrong for having been raped and being triggered by things that remind me of that when my mental shielding is not fully prepared
and now you are trying to come in here, to a thread about transgressing people's boundaries of what is acceptable, and tell me that it was a well-intentioned mistake to intentionally and blatantly ignore my clearly explained boundaries you want to be forgiven for having wronged me? apologize for what you did, not for how you perceive me to be in the wrong
and are also not apologizing for having just jumped down my throat for accounting for the fact that anal and oral rape are physically different experiences and that your experience allowed you to answer your POS mod who has decided he does not believe what happened to you could have been real because you obviously should have just bit the guys dick off and killed your abuser on the spot
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26778427 - 06/24/20 05:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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and now you are trying to come in here, to a thread about transgressing people's boundaries of what is acceptable, and tell me that it was a well-intentioned mistake
Yes. It was a well intentioned mistake. You outlined things that you deemed unacceptable and to my judgement of the situation at the time, what was depicted in the video did not depict what was unacceptable to you.
I wasn't out to shock you, I was helping you in my own way.
This failed to have the desired effect completely.
The reason for this was that I made the well intentioned mistake of misjudging what would set you off in the wrong way.
Things escalated from there.
From my point of view you are being unreasonable in your expectations and actions from time to time, which incites my adverse friction.
That does not take away from the fact that I extremely regret the wel intentioned mistake of misjudging your capacity at the time to handle that video. For that I apologize without reservations nor restraint. I am very sorry that this situation came to pass between us, especially since it seems to have resulted in you thinking less of me, while I continue to hold you in high regard, and posted the video and associated text with the best of intentions.
Are we in the clear now?
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778431 - 06/24/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: From my point of view you are being unreasonable in your expectations and actions from time to time, which incites my adverse friction.
Same to you your expectations for me to behave the same as you after you integrated different experiences differently do not respect the reality of the difference of my experience, despite my attempts to pay that courtesy to you
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Asante said: Are we in the clear now?
do not see why not, still respect you and appreciate the work you put in keeping this place afloat
you still have made a bigger deal out of that than of contributing your account of being orally raped tho have since found it in political discussion and can simply quote it from there if you do not feel like providing a fresh account tho having re-read it now -- find a poetic irony in your regret at having been too threatened by your abuser to bite and to since then wished that you had almost as tho being a victim of an action is more paralyzingly traumatic than our ideas of how to bravely respond to such a situation
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika]
#26778460 - 06/24/20 05:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Kids always blame themselves the most.
You said it was quite late some time ago, perhaps wind down and try to catch some zZz.
We're only human.
Incidentally I dreamt indirectly about our clash last night, full of dream theatrics. My spirit guide caught me as I exited the nightmare and now that the event recurred IRL between us he had a talk with me about how my life experiences have bruised my interaction with the feminine force just like your life experiences have given you hardship towards the masculine force.
Theres yins and yangs in everything.
When we were both Yang it was very difficult for me to yin myself towards the post written before this one.
The wound-up rod unwound to a relaxed plate, the string untangled itself.
I recommend you to uncoil too, in your comfort zone, to et ready for sleep. Only had a few hours due to the lesson/nightmare of the night previous.
I hope you have a long and restful sleep.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778470 - 06/24/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: You said it was quite late some time ago, perhaps wind down and try to catch some zZz.
We're only human.
keep to a nocturnal sleep schedule it is pushing 7 am at the moment plan to tie my hair back once it dries from my shower a bit ago then take the dogs out in the crisp morning air and to do my voice therapy then crash some time by 10
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Asante said: My victimizer's 4 minutes of wellbeing, when I was 6 years old, cost me 4 decades of damage so far.
I'm no longer traumatized by it, my Ego death sequence put that behind me, but the perior until that time cannot be undone.
Its a train of consequences.
-His molestation made me odd. -Because I was odd, I was severely bullied in school. -Because I was severely bullied in school I developed crushing social phobia. -Due to crushing social phobia I missed out on just about all of life's worthwhile lessons. -Because i was being terrorized, was crushed mentallly and didnt learn the things a kid my age should have learned, I became greatly gimped as an adult. -Because I became greatly gimped as an adult, the spiral of nonsexual abuse continued well into adulthood.
Thank you for shoving your dick into my mouth motherfucker. Next time around I'll rip and tear like a rottweiler until you do bash my skull in with that hammer like you said you would.
That's child molestation. It wasn't Michael Jackson pussyfooting around apologetically about jacking each other off and showering me with gifts to groom me into the high heavens in Neverland, it was a violent, mean old bastard with a claw hammer in a toolshed threatening to bash my head in if I didnt comply, and then if I'd tell anyone.
4 minutes of stress relief for him, 4 decades of pain for me.
I'll go Jaws on that sorry dick next time around.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 6
#26778482 - 06/24/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I find it fucking despicable that you dragged that shit up just to try and get one over on me in your quest for revenge.
I was prepared to just ignore you last night, but seeing what you've put Asante through this morning I now think you're acting as a thoroughly disgusting human being and I think you need to step back and consider what you have just done.
Wow. The look on my face. I can feel it. What an awful, awful thing it is for you to act the way you are acting in this thread.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
#26778490 - 06/24/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I find it fucking despicable that you dragged that shit up just to try and get one over on me in your quest for revenge.
Incorrect, remembered the thread from a year ago was very big on pushing a narrative that chemical castration is not enough for child molestors to be let back in to society so immediately remembered it as one of two available examples that explained the concept you did not comprehend the other was a friend who has openly shared her multiple experiences with sexual assault as part of a campaign of raising awareness but with the creepos on this board, did not want to post any of the news stories or anything that could allow you guys to find and harass her for it
but do try and tell me about how you are worth my time to plot a "quest for revenge" just because you are a shitty mod with shitty opinions

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Jokeshopbeard said: I was prepared to just ignore you last night, but seeing what you've put Asante through this morning I now think you're acting as a thoroughly disgusting human being and I think you need to step back and consider what you have just done.
quoted a relevant post to the topic that goes to show that your doubts about the reality of it were as unfounded as all your other bullshit
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Jokeshopbeard said: Wow. The look on my face. I can feel it. What an awful, awful thing it is for you to act the way you are acting in this thread.
visit the public thread it was quoted from for public discussion stop whining about how you perceive things as personal sleights just because they show you are objectively wrong about issues ignore me if you want to, will still point out your bullshit
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Tantrika] 4
#26778492 - 06/24/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: My victimizer's 4 minutes of wellbeing, when I was 6 years old, cost me 4 decades of damage so far.
I'm no longer traumatized by it, my Ego death sequence put that behind me, but the perior until that time cannot be undone.
Its a train of consequences.
-His molestation made me odd. -Because I was odd, I was severely bullied in school. -Because I was severely bullied in school I developed crushing social phobia. -Due to crushing social phobia I missed out on just about all of life's worthwhile lessons. -Because i was being terrorized, was crushed mentallly and didnt learn the things a kid my age should have learned, I became greatly gimped as an adult. -Because I became greatly gimped as an adult, the spiral of nonsexual abuse continued well into adulthood.
Thank you for shoving your dick into my mouth motherfucker. Next time around I'll rip and tear like a rottweiler until you do bash my skull in with that hammer like you said you would.
That's child molestation. It wasn't Michael Jackson pussyfooting around apologetically about jacking each other off and showering me with gifts to groom me into the high heavens in Neverland, it was a violent, mean old bastard with a claw hammer in a toolshed threatening to bash my head in if I didnt comply, and then if I'd tell anyone.
4 minutes of stress relief for him, 4 decades of pain for me.
I'll go Jaws on that sorry dick next time around.
That's my account, my 4 decades of damage, I feel it should be left to be said by me when I deem it appropriate, not quoted by others to make their point.
You were dismayed by JSB's highly inappropriate and in my view misogynist comment, and use my situation as an example. I prefer to do it myself, not be paraphrased or quoted,
Its kinda like outing someone, except at having been raped at age 6. I don't refer people curious about the other kind of rape to you too, that would not go over well.
Let's wind down, your situation with JSB is tomorrow's worry.
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Re: Porn star Ron Jeremy charged with 4 counts of Sexual Assault [Re: Asante]
#26778493 - 06/24/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: That's my account, my 4 decades of damage, I feel it should be left to be said by me when I deem it appropriate, not quoted by others to make their point.
Well you publicly put it on retreivable record just as others have done so if you wished for it not to be quoted, you should have said so in the post itself not something you try and treat as appropriate or inappropriate to reference because your shitty mod has been manipulating you
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Asante said: You were dismayed by JSB's highly inappropriate and in my view misogynist comment, and use my situation as an example. I prefer to do it myself, not be paraphrased or quoted,
Will keep that in mind for the future, you at no point said such previously in your public postings on the matter
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Asante said: Its kinda like outing someone, except at having been raped at age 6.
What a disrespectful portrayal
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