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Invisiblekaiowas
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you're right....you're wrong
    #2677677 - 05/14/04 01:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

when can we use these statements in regards to philisophical and spiritual subjects?


msot of the time, it's jsut one ego feeding off of another...does this get anywhere? 

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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: kaiowas]
    #2677937 - 05/14/04 02:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I guess it depends on the context of the argument.


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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: kaiowas]
    #2677973 - 05/14/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The idea of right and wrong is a philosophy itself.And it's useless to fight philosophy with philosophy.


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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: kaiowas]
    #2677974 - 05/14/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

When someone makes a logical error, I think it's appropriate to say that they're wrong.


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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: HypnoToad]
    #2678134 - 05/14/04 03:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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HypnoToad said:
The idea of right and wrong is a philosophy itself.And it's useless to fight philosophy with philosophy.




Have you ever heard of Munitz and his World Pictures philosophy? This is exactly what he argues. Saying that one religion/philosophy is better than another is like saying "who's the better team: Philadelphia Flyers or the 76ers?" You can't compare them, hockey vs basketball is a totally different set of self defined rules or beliefs, how would you decide who's better? It's the same thing with comparing philosophies and religions.


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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: silversoul7]
    #2678230 - 05/14/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"When someone makes a logical error, I think it's appropriate to say that they're wrong. "

:thumbup:

is ther ever an instance where a person doesn't make a logical error but is still wrong?  how about the opposite?


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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: kaiowas]
    #2678260 - 05/14/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

hen can we use these statements in regards to philisophical and spiritual subjects?

Innumerable places.

1. When source is quoted incorrectly.

2. When the tenets of any spiritual belief system are inconsistent. Such as "Thou Shalt Not Kill" and " When a man lies with another man, they shall both be put to death."

3. When the conclusion drawn is based on erroneous data or fallacious logic. "I was an indistinct light, therefore we are being visited my aliens."

4. When a SPECIFIC claim is made that cannot be backed up. "I can always tell when another is looking at me from behind."

5. When dreams are perceived as consensus-reality. "I was abducted!", though a 24 hour video shows the person never left the bed.

On-and-on it goes.

What cannot be reasonably challenged are peoples emotions and experiences; though a great number here often confuse their conclusion about an experience and the experience itself. "A crow flew over my shoulder (fact). It warned me of danger (fantasy)."



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Re: you're right....you're wrong [Re: silversoul7]
    #2678263 - 05/14/04 03:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

When someone makes a logical error, I think it's appropriate to say that they're wrong.

If done in a polite way, I agree. But being illogical does not necessarily make it wrong.


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