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GreenHorns
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: hummingbird]
#26780817 - 06/25/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry I was referring to the bugs themselves being harmless. Their larvae do the damage.
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hummingbird

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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: GreenHorns]
#26782199 - 06/25/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, you're right. The gnats themselves are just annoying really.
I've heard when gnats show up it means you are overwatering, and I've found that to be true for the most part. Letting the top of the soil dry out between waterings more usually gets rid of them, or reduces their numbers quite a bit.
@coastal-I went back and read the op again. The bugs swarming the soil could be a type springtail, which I don't think harm plants. Letting the soil dry out would get rid of those too, and the DE you used is going to help a bunch with any bug. The speckled corking like damage, especially in the second pic... still makes me think you might have/had mites on them.
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coAsTal
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: hummingbird]
#26782725 - 06/25/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
hummingbird said: @coastal-I went back and read the op again. The bugs swarming the soil could be a type springtail, which I don't think harm plants. Letting the soil dry out would get rid of those too, and the DE you used is going to help a bunch with any bug. The speckled corking like damage, especially in the second pic... still makes me think you might have/had mites on them.
I definitely agree that the damage looks like mites, but I swear I've examined the trays very thoroughly and have never seen any insect other than the little gray ones (that could well be springtails.) Definitely no red bugs. Still, the damage obviously came from somewhere, hehe. I just can't explain it.
I used the H2O2 on some of the soil most clearly populated with the gnat larvae this morning...though it didn't seem to kill the few wormy bastards I could see (I did them in with a chopstick for showing their clear disgusting asses to the world) and now I'm just going to let everything stay un-watered until it's all good and thoroughly dry.
Once it's sufficiently so, I will go ahead and take out the seedlings, do the water rinse to clean them and the roots, and make the transfer into new soil and containers-- thinking I'll probably do the first part on the porch outside so I can keep all the old infested stuff outdoors.
Hopefully I can get a handle on this so I can get the little ones through-- if the damage stops I have a few dozen that are definitely healthy enough to grow through the scarring once I get them in better soil.
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: coAsTal]
#26782736 - 06/25/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Did you thoroughly water the soil with Peroxide or just spray it on the surface?
Set down a bowl of vinegar with a drop of dish soap in it in your plant room. You'll catch 100's of gnats guaranteed which will cut down on your infestation dramatically as well.
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: Allium]
#26782745 - 06/25/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Watered with straight 3%, until it soaked in, reading that it needed to penetrate enough to get them where they live-- and thank you a million for the vinegar idea-- I'll do that today
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: coAsTal]
#26783034 - 06/25/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Man, that normally fries all the larvae out dead! You must have em really bad then. Wait to you see how well that vinegar works man, you'll catch em all like them bitches be Pokemon 
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retowen
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: DancingWolf]
#26818113 - 07/11/20 07:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh, it can destroy some plants - depending on the plant. Speaking from experience.
Start with 1:4 dilution of 3% H202:water, which should be plenty for killing the bugs.
Neem oil (diluted) is another excellent one. Again, first experiment how the plants will take it. Not all plants like it.
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Re: Fucking indoor bugs, man [Re: retowen]
#26827046 - 07/16/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lots of good advice here, from personal experience from fighting infestations of mites, mealy bugs, gnats and others is that sprays, oils and other spot treatments never work (for me, YMMV) The only thing I ever did that actually worked was to find the nastiest insecticide I could find, mix up a really strong batch and dunk the entire plant completely root to tip substrate and all, total submersion. It's the only way I've ever saved a plant, probably took years off my life, and a Jade I saved from mealy bugs smelled horrible for years afterwards but is now almost 20 years old and pretty healthy. IDK if a seedling would survive that treatment though, all the plants I saved this way were established.
Edited by athos56 (07/16/20 01:54 PM)
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