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mucolog
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Multi ID req. Europe
#26776341 - 06/23/20 10:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hi all!! Today I found a location with a variety of different specimens which some of them I believe should be active.
The place is bursting with fungus, all of the specimens I was able to separate are growing in the same environment which is on the altitude of around 200m in the middle of a small vineyard on the border of a thick forest, the vineyard is very well fertilized with HORSE DUNG!!, that's also why I believe some of them should be active as people say they like to grow on dung in our country Slovenia with Mediterranean clymate (central Europe)  I also asked the landowner if he uses any pesticide spays and he said he doesn't spray much but anyway its a relay small vineyard, where I think grows more mushrooms than grapes :P
I picked up only few of them for identification, if any of them results active I will go get more of them, so I hope they will be identified quickly before its too late and the rest gets ruined :P
I believe most of them, are a variety panaeolus papilionaceus as found in my book and some panaeolus sphinctrinud, olivaceus which i read they are active in some cases?? or not??)) but I rather leave the identification to the experts of the site and hopefully I will learn to able to identify them myself next time
Please let me know if you need any additional info of the samples, for now I will post only pics as I don't have much time now and maybe edit the post with more info later on(thanks for understanding)
first a few of random environment pics..








Sample 1.



Sample 2.






Sample 3.

Sample 4.




A little bit of everything that i was not relay convinced where to put, please let me know if any in the mix is potentially dangerous or maybe all of them

Please also let me know if you notice that I misplaced any of the specimens above
thanks for all the input in advance
Having troubles uploading the pics, maybe because of the limits( I will be uploading them gradually...
Edited by mucolog (06/23/20 11:01 AM)
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776488 - 06/23/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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They are all Panaeolus papilionaceus, not active.
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: Anglerfish]
#26776515 - 06/23/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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awwww now I regret picking them up, I rather see them nature. Thanks for prompt reply. Looks like I will have to explore the nature more 
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776561 - 06/23/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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and what do you think about this guy...
 is it also a variety of Panaeolus papilionaceus? I have seen it on a high landing pasture (around 800m) about a month ago, it was growing out of an old cow dung, but I didn't pick it up at that time, Do you think it is worth a while to go check again and post more detailed pics?
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776574 - 06/23/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yep, Panaeolus Papilionaceus Group.
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: MpSeph]
#26776594 - 06/23/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you very much, next time I will know what Im looking at
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776601 - 06/23/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You Can ID Pan Paps By Looking At The Cap Margin & The Stipe. There Will Usually Be Partial Veil Remnants Around The Cap Margin & Pan. Paps Have Reddish/Brown Stipes
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: Anglerfish]
#26776701 - 06/23/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: They are all Panaeolus papilionaceus, not active.
I agree, so is the last picture, I would call it Panaeolus papillionaceus group because there are several mushrooms growing in dung going by the name Panaeolus papillionaceus and they all require microscopy to determine the exact species so they are given a group name.
edit: I'm not aware of any active species of Panaeolus with an appendiculate cap margin like you would see with Panaeolus papillionaceus group
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Edited by Doc9151 (06/23/20 01:02 PM)
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: MpSeph]
#26776732 - 06/23/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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MpSeph said: You Can ID Pan Paps By Looking At The Cap Margin & The Stipe. There Will Usually Be Partial Veil Remnants Around The Cap Margin & Pan. Paps Have Reddish/Brown Stipes 
Thats what you mean...

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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776740 - 06/23/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That Is The Partial Veil That Detaches & Hangs From The Stipe Once The Mushroom Matures. Look Around The Edge Of The Cap & You'll See Tooth Like Veil Remnants On Most Pan. Pap Specimens
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: MpSeph]
#26776857 - 06/23/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see and understand now, thanks for your time explaining man!! Im new in English mycology terminology:))
but isn't this also a very notable characteristic of Panaeolus sphinctrus about which my resource(a book by Giuseppe Pace) is saying that in some cases it can be hallucinogenic, Is it possible it can develop such characteristics under the right circumstances?
But probably it isn't worth a while finding out which one does, right :P
maybe it is only a misinformation in the book.
Edited by mucolog (06/23/20 01:49 PM)
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776907 - 06/23/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Is it just me or is that last picturing bluing on the cap
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: Moria841]
#26776938 - 06/23/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Panaeolus Sphinctrinus & Panaeolus Papilionaceus Are The Same Thing, Pan. Sphinctrinus Was Added To Pan. Paps Group, They Are Non Active. Any Source That States They Are Different Sp Is Old Information.
Also, Just So You Know, There Are No Known Toxic Panaeolus Sp.
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: Moria841]
#26776941 - 06/23/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Moria841 said: Is it just me or is that last picturing bluing on the cap
I Think It's Just The Lighting.
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: MpSeph]
#26776954 - 06/23/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't see any obvious bluing or bluish tones. You have mushrooms in what is called the Panaeolus papillionaceus group, microscopy is needed to determine the exact species.
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: MpSeph]
#26776964 - 06/23/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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MpSeph said: Panaeolus Sphinctrinus & Panaeolus Papilionaceus Are The Same Thing, Pan. Sphinctrinus Was Added To Pan. Paps Group, They Are Non Active. Any Source That States They Are Different Sp Is Old Information.
Also, Just So You Know, There Are No Known Toxic Panaeolus Sp.
Understood sir. Thanks again
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776970 - 06/23/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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No Prob
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Re: Multi ID req. Europe [Re: mucolog]
#26776971 - 06/23/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah Im sure its just the lighting
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