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Possible contaminant on casing layer
    #26775826 - 06/23/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Can you tell me if this is a contaminant? It sure looks like one to me... but I'm no expert.

No stinky odor.

Monotub, cococoir/verm/gypsum, spawned with grain, cased with peatmoss/verm/gypsum/lime. All bulk materials where pasteurized.

After full colonization I cased it and it was all good clean hyphae coming through the casing layer. Then it started looking like this in a couple of days.









Is there anything I can do?


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Re: Possible contaminant on casing layer [Re: Raptoralic]
    #26775844 - 06/23/20 03:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I also have some casings in a SGFC. They also started to present this fuzzy stuff around the mycelium. I thought it was cobweb so I sprayed with some peroxide. The whole staff reacted to it. It also made fizzy noises. I didn't spray with peroxide the monotub that was presented in the previous comment.

This even shows a place from where it started. On the bottom left there is a huge portion of uncolonized casing layer.  And it turned yellow some the mushroom mycelium that was around.


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I'm thinking of removing the casing layer and replace it or leave it without one. Or just wait and see.


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Re: Possible contaminant on casing layer [Re: Raptoralic]
    #26775895 - 06/23/20 05:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know what to tell you man.

That all looks fine to me :shrug:

I don't see any discoloration or any of the blotchy white spots that I would see with Trich. I think your myc is just growing through the casing layer because its still trying to initiate pinning. I wouldn't mess with it and just let it do its thing but thats just me.


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Re: Possible contaminant on casing layer [Re: Dephect]
    #26775921 - 06/23/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks! I think you are right. I now saw Tmethyl's post, https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17231150. And indeed it doesn't look like the usual contaminants but like normal stuff. The first casing that I noticed and made me feel paranoic was the one that I mentioned about the yellowing of healthy hyphae (if I call them correctly) around a circle. It was also filled way up and maybe it touched the tin foil that was covered during colonization.

I don't know, it all looked more fluffy compared with my previous projects. I'm sorry for my paranoic post.  :stoned2: :crazy: I should have researched more before posting.

BTW I have another question I couldn't find any answers. Frank's monotub dialing requires a fan in the room. I don't have a fan but I have all windows and doors open for 12h a day (one window open during the night). Should I keep the regular recommendation (bottom holes with poly as tight as you can make and top ones really loose and fluffy)?


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Re: Possible contaminant on casing layer [Re: Raptoralic]
    #26776017 - 06/23/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I honestly just do Bods unmodified tek. I used to fuck with poly fil and all that jazz but now I just leave my tubs unmodified and use poly fil only on my mason jar lid filters. I just pour my sub in with no liner, mix in my spawn and lay mix that last quart into the top of the substrate/spawn mix.  The only difference in what I do is I use tub lids without the weather seal since I kept getting bacterial contamination and sour smells. My tubs get FAE and I barely do anything but keep a ceiling fan on, and even without the ceiling fan, I could get decent pinsets. I have basically zero contamns at this point and only have to deal with a little side pinning from the sub shrinking.

So yeah I am basically a keep it super simple kind of guy.


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