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If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... * 1
    #26773987 - 06/22/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Would you?

I know I would.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26774002 - 06/22/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

If you asked me three years ago I would have said yes...

But not anymore


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: glaceo]
    #26774010 - 06/22/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What made you turn around?


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: glaceo]
    #26774012 - 06/22/20 10:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Your not even 60-80 years old.  What a waste.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26774026 - 06/22/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why bother suffering? I don't know what death brings but I assume it's "nothingness".


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26774029 - 06/22/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Re: Pinkerton

The answer needn't matter .... the attachment however is the crux of the matter.
Equanimity is not trapped by such trivialities, beyond our control.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26774060 - 06/22/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Pinkerton said:
Why bother suffering? I don't know what death brings but I assume it's "nothingness".



The only thing that can be experienced is experience. If there's nothingness you won't know it so if you ever happen to big bang again you'll be back at square one. Nothingness for 0-infinity length of time that's never perceived. Then boom you're born


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #26774065 - 06/22/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No.

Quote:

Pinkerton said:
Why bother suffering? I don't know what death brings but I assume it's "nothingness".




Because out of suffering, something beautiful can blossom. I suffer daily (physically, mentally and spiritually) but I'm trying to turn that suffering into cosmic love.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26774069 - 06/22/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The question of living and dying is an absurd fetish for people attached to the meaning of words rather than the experience of existence.

You live and dye in every moment.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: laughingdog] * 1
    #26774075 - 06/22/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Since death is an inevitable part of life - 9/10 it’s an unskillful move to make because it’ll happen of its own accord anyways.  Suicide doesn’t save you from suffering per say, it makes it so you cannot experience anything at all whatsoever.  We’re all destined for the big blackout, no need to rush and try and make it happen on your own, it’s built into us and part of the natural order.  Because you won’t remember any of your life anyways, the nature of the suffering you perceive is ultimately akin to an illusory phantom or hallucination - see it for that and be free to experience your life fully and directly.  Such experience is also zero-dimensional, like brushing one's teeth.  Whatever occurs, luminous energy without intent, positive or negative, it is an echo-like event; whatever it is, it bursts, leaving no trace, so relax into zero-dimensional unitary space.

Maha Prajna Paramita Hridaya Sūtra

*Avalokiteshvara Bodhisattva, when practicing deeply the Prajna Paramita, perceived that all five skandhas in their own being are empty and was saved from all Suffering.  O Shariputra, form does not differ from emptiness, emptiness does not differ from form. That which is form is emptiness, that which is emptiness, form. The same is true of feelings, perceptions, impulses, consciousness.

Gyate, gyate, paragyate, parasamgyate, bodhi svaha!


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26774471 - 06/22/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

No.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: nooneman]
    #26774795 - 06/22/20 05:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hate to sound bleak but in the past, I would have. However, having discovered some sources of tremendous personal joy and fulfillment over the past few years, I have come to not fear death necessarily, but to do everything in my power to avoid it simply because once I’m no longer here, I’ll no longer be able to do the things I love.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #26774920 - 06/22/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Pinkerton said:
Would you?

I know I would.





Leave the back door unlocked tonight...


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26775215 - 06/22/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck no. Im having too much fun...ask in 30 years if I am still around...


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #26775722 - 06/23/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

It would be very tempting but probably I'd say no. I'd like to die fairly soon. This lifetime I've had, has really  been quite bad but I feel like better things are possible and I'd really like the chance to move onto something new, get a fresh start and possibly redeem myself.

I want to stick around a little longer here for a few reasons though. I have an old dog that I've grown quite fond of and I want to care for her throughout the final chapters of her life. I want to clean my room so I don't leave a huge mess behind and I am curious to see how this whole corona virus thing ends. However if you told me I was to die tonight I would probably be excited.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #26775810 - 06/23/20 02:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

Pinkerton said:
Would you?

I know I would.





Leave the back door unlocked tonight...



I never invited you.


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26775814 - 06/23/20 02:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Too late. Always make sure the person you stalk is not more psycho than you are. :hehehe:


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #26775820 - 06/23/20 02:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Why can't you just be nice, for Christ sake? :shrug:


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #26776148 - 06/23/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Too late. Always make sure the person you stalk is not more psycho than you are. :hehehe:



I have never even stalked you, you have intrued my life and turned it into ruins. Here's the deal OC: fuck the fuck off, I won't nothing to do with you and leave me alone or feed me happiness. :hehehe:


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26827441 - 07/16/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

yea but only if it dont count like sucide cus of hell


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: charlie07]
    #26844067 - 07/25/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

From Youtube

a comment by Kenzie Grossenbacher:

Reasons why you should stay alive.
1. We would miss you.
2. It's not worth the regret. Either by yourself if you failed or just simply left scars, or the regret everyone else feels by not doing enough to help you.
3. It does get better. Believe it or not it will eventually get better. Sometimes you have to go through the storm to get to the rainbow.
4. There's so much you would miss out on doing.
5. There is always a reason to live. It might not be clear right now, but it is always there.
6. So many people care, and it would hurt them if you hurt yourself.
7. You ARE worth it. Don't let anyone, especially yourself, tell you otherwise.
8. You are amazing.
9. A time will come, once you've battled the toughest times of your life and are in ease once again, where you will be so glad that you decided to keep on living. You will emerge stronger from this all, and won't regret your choice to carry on with life. Because things always get better.
10. What about all the things you've always wanted to do? What about the things you've planned, but never got around to doing? You can't do them when you're dead.
11. I love you. Even if only one person loves you, that's still a reason to stay alive.
12. You won't be able to listen to music if you die.
13. Killing yourself is never worth it. You'll hurt both yourself and all the people you care about.
14. There are so many people that would miss you, including me.
15. You're preventing a future generation, YOUR KIDS, from even being born.
16. How do you think your family would feel? Would it improve their lives if you died?
17. You're gorgeous, amazing, and to someone you are perfect.
18. Think about your favourite music artist, you'll never hear their voice again...
19. You'll never have the feeling of walking into a warm building on a cold day
20. Listening to incredibly loud music
21. Being alive is just really good.
22. Not being alive is really bad.
23. Finding your soulmate.
24. Red pandas
25. Going to diners at three in the morning.
26. Really soft pillows.
27. Eating pizza in New York City.
28. Proving people wrong with your success.
29. Watching the jerks that doubted you fail at life.
30. Seeing someone trip over a garbage can.
31. Being able to help other people.
32. Bonfires.
33. Sitting on rooftops.
34. Seeing every single country in the world.
35. Going on roadtrips.
36. You might win the lottery someday.
37. Listening to music on a record player.
38. Going to the top of the Eiffel Tower.
39. Taking really cool pictures.
40. Literally meeting thousands of new people.
41. Hearing crazy stories.
42. Telling crazy stories.
43. Eating ice cream on a hot day.
44. Talking bad about people that deserve it to  your best friend and ranting all day
45. Travelling to another planet someday.
46. Having an underwater house.
47. Randomly running into your hero on the street.
48. Having your own room at a fancy hotel.
49. Trampolines.
50. Think about your favourite movie, you'll never watch it again.
51. Think about the feeling of laughing out loud in a public place because your best friend has just sent you an inside joke,
52. Your survival will make the world better, even if it's for just one person or 20 or 100 or more.
53. People do care.
54. Treehouses
55. Hanging out with your soul mate in a treehouse
55. Snorting when you laugh and not caring who sees
56. I don't even know you and I love you.
57. I don't even know you and I care about you.
58. Because nobody is going to be like you ever, so embrace your uniqueness!
59. You won't be here to experience the first cat world emperor.
60. WHAT ABOUT FOOD?! YOU'LL MISS CHOCOLATE AND ALL THE OTHER NOM THINGS!
61. Starbucks.
62. Hugs.
63. Stargazing.
64. You have a purpose, and it's up to you to find out what it is.
65. You've changed somebody's life.
66. Now you could change the world.
67. You will meet the person that's perfect for you.
68. No matter how much or how little, you have your life ahead of you.
69. You have the chance to save somebody's life.
70. If you end your life, you're stopping yourself from achieving great things.
71. Making snow angels.
72. Making snowmen.
73. Snowball fights.
74. Life is what you make of it.
75. Everybody has a talent.
76. Laughing until you cry.
77. Having the ability to be sad means you have the ability to be happy.
78. The world would not be the same if you didn't exist.
79. Its possible to turn frowns, upside down
80. Be yourself, don't take anyone's shit, and never let them take you alive.
81. Heroes are ordinary people who make themselves extraordinary. Be your own hero.
82. Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect. It means that you've decided to look beyond the imperfections.
83. One day your smile will be real.
84. Having a really hot, relaxing bath after a stressful day.
85. Lying on grass and laughing at the clouds.
86. Getting completely smashed with your best friends.
87. Eating crazy food.
88. Staying up all night watching your favourite films with a loved one.
89. Sleeping in all day.
90. Creating something you're proud of.
91. You can look back on yourself 70 years later and being proud you didn't commit
92. Being able to meet your Internet friends.
93. Tea / Coffee / Hot Chocolate
94. The new season of Sherlock
95. Cuddling under the stars.
96. Being stupid in public because you just can.
97. If you are reading this then you are alive! Is there any more reason to smile?
98. being able to hug that one person you havent seen in years
99. People care enough about you and your future to come up with 100 reasons for you not to do this.
100. But, the final and most important one is, just, being able to experience life. Because even if your life doesn't seem so great right now, literally anything could happen


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: OOISI]
    #26884273 - 08/17/20 04:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If your answer is yes, isn't that reason enough to change everything about your life? No-death-needed reincarnation?


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: deathlyoctopusman]
    #26884844 - 08/17/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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deathlyoctopusman said:
If your answer is yes, isn't that reason enough to change everything about your life? No-death-needed reincarnation?


I've often seen this kind of argument.

It sounds good, but in my opinion it doesn't quite take into account that mental habits and conditioning can't just be turned off or redirected in a short amount of time - and even if they could, most people don't have the discipline or knowledge to make that happen.

But still, I'm not criticizing that advice and it's not bad advice. You do indeed need to start changing things somehow to get out of suicidal ideation and depression. Changing small habits and doing active work in positive self talk, finding people who have gone through it and come out stronger, dreaming new dreams, starting to believe you can be someone different from the person you think you are or are becoming.

I sympathize with OP. There have been many times in my life when, if I were presented with a "Yes/No" button in regards to this question, I definitely would have hit "Yes". And even more times when I might have, but can't really say for sure. I'm glad I've never owned a gun, though I'm not against gun ownership.

Wish I had some advice for OP - not that they requested any. I could talk about my experiences of healing but they're all very particular and it's still a lot of up and down - just this past week I've been incredibly low and feeling miserable. I got lucky and got a job that allowed me to spend money on healing. That's a privilege not everybody has, but if you do have money, you should look into how you can spend it wisely to heal yourself: a gym membership, talk therapy, hypnotherapy, acupuncture, tai chi, medical massages, salsa lessons, a long beach vacation, anything to shake up the mental rut.

Lately I've been doing HIIT workouts on YouTube. After 10 or 20 minutes I break a sweat and feel better. It's a small commitment (though I still don't always commit to it) that helps.

Let's hope for better days ahead for us all. :mushroom2:


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I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: If you could painlessly die in your sleep tonight... [Re: Pinkerton]
    #26884849 - 08/17/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I would love to.

@OOISI
Quote:

a comment by Kenzie Grossenbacher:

Reasons why you should stay alive.




Bullshit. You wouldn't even noticed if I would dissapear.
And I dont even want to experience life/things anymore.


Edited by Ethric (08/17/20 01:02 PM)


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