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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead] 1
#26763881 - 06/21/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods]
#26764798 - 06/21/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: I posted it a few pages back
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0965-6
"Collectively, our data show that the asymptomatic individuals had a reduced inflammatory response characterized by low circulating concentrations of cytokines and chemokines."
"Results might also be confounded by previously existing antibodies to SARS-CoV, MERS-CoV or common cold coronaviruses."
"Notably, detection of viral RNA does not necessarily mean that infectious virus is present in respiratory specimens, and caution is required when applying virus shedding duration that was calculated based on RT–PCR to assess infection potential."
Good article. Thanks.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: HamHead]
#26766442 - 06/21/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's an uphill battle, HamHead, and you will receive negativity the entire time unfortunately.
In our pretend science world, we decide the conclusion we want and then backtrack our data to support that conclusion. So we ignore any evidence that is contrary to our already determined result and carefully select data to back up our "hypothesis" (aka conclusion). We don't have real medical science occurring currently because of the political and monetary pressures.
The WHO recently examined evidence from countries that had done in depth contact tracing. From this hard data they drew a conclusion that this virus doesn't really transmit from asymptomatic persons. Very rarely was the term they used. However, this realization contradicts the narrative that is being put forth and highlights the flaws in the modelling that was used to put the world in terror. So they were forced to retract and clarify the statement that this data driven evidence is of less importance than the assumption based models.
Such a sad time to live in.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26767099 - 06/21/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I actually pretty much agree with that and admit I’m guilty of it
Science isn’t immune to the difficulties of our new post-truth reality either
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26767190 - 06/21/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Post modern *
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26767242 - 06/21/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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No
Post truth
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#26773611 - 06/22/20 06:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Canada's RCMP have recently been ticketing...Americans not content to break the rules in their own country and coming up here to do it too

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Alberta RCMP issued seven tickets to Americans who stopped in Banff National Park to see the sights last week despite rules observed by the Canada Border Services Agency.
"If individuals have been allowed to enter Canada for an essential purpose, they have to abide by the requirements provided to them by the CBSA," said RCMP Cpl. Deanna Fontaine.
Non-essential travel between Canada and the United States is currently prohibited. The closure is currently scheduled to end July 21, though that date could be extended.
Under current rules, Americans may come through Canada to get home or get to work in Alaska, but they must travel along a direct path. When they need to stop for food or rest stops, they must maintain distance away from the public as much as possible.
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Seven tickets
Fontaine said at least six of the seven tickets issued last week were related to Americans who had stopped for long periods of time to go hiking in Banff National Park.
Each of the tickets were issued under the Alberta Health Act at a rate of $1,200 each.
RCMP have received other complaints from residents after seeing U.S. plates in the area, Fontaine said, but noted that it is up to the discretion of each individual officer to determine whether a stop in Canada is appropriate along their route of transit.
There are also legitimate reasons for the presence of a U.S. resident or a U.S.-plated vehicle in Canada amidst the pandemic, Fontaine said.
"In the park, we do have U.S. citizens who have been there since before the pandemic started," Fontaine said. "And that's not an issue. People have a right to live in peace."
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CBSA rules
According to a CBSA representative, travellers seeking to transit through Canada to Alaska will be required to substantiate their purpose for travel. Should their purpose be deemed non-discretionary, they will be admitted entry.
"Should an officer have any doubts with regards to the traveller's intended purpose, the traveller will be required to prove/substantiate their purpose of travel," said Louis-Carl Brissette Lesage, a spokesperson with the CBSA, in an email to CBC News.
Brissette Lesage said providing false information to officers upon entry is considered misrepresentation and has consequences, including possibly being denied entry or being banned from returning to Canada.
Failure to comply with restrictions could lead to up to $750,000 in fines and imprisonment of up to six months, Brissette Lesage said.
Asked about the reports of tourists showing up in Banff National Park on June 12, Transport Minister Marc Garneau said a number of measures are in place and officials will continue to spot check.
"There will be cases where people do not do it and we believe that that's an irresponsible thing to do. We're largely satisfied that most people follow the requirements that are put in place," he said.
"We cannot guarantee 100 per cent that everybody is going to do it and we are to some extent assuming good faith on the part of people at this point in time."
Fontaine said the priority of RCMP was to educate travellers and ensure that those who need to quarantine are aware of the requirements.
"I'm not confident in saying that this is a trend," Fontaine said. "This is not something that is being dealt with proactively, it's something that's being dealt with reactively."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/rcmp-americans-banff-alaska-1.5621452
doubt this handful will cause any major issues but if this happens a bunch more over the course of the next month would not be surprised to see the Canadian government lengthen the border lockdown, again
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26773613 - 06/22/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: pirate-blues]
#26773863 - 06/22/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Since it pertains to the pandemic, the following is the Communiqué my main Spoirit Guide just dropped on the world, regarding COVID-19 from a holistic spiritual angle.
If anything, compare it on equal footing with the post pirate-blues made above 
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COVID-19 THROUGH SPIRIT EYES
The main Spirit Guide of Spiritworker invites you to look into the past, present and future of the world, using COVID-19 as the focus of this talk.
You will hopefully gain a better understanding about events past, present and future and of the fabric of reality in general,.
Please use this knowledge for the good of us all, even if you do it for selfish reasons.
You will find out why we said that ^_^
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Asante]
#26773876 - 06/22/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now half a billion are set to die?
Possibly from climate change and related famine/war. Which is a real tangible treat to all of us.
Dont forget your mask tho At least we can feel the illusion of control with that while we careen towards numerous other disasters.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy]
#26773941 - 06/22/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I predict that 100% of humans alive on the Earth right now will die at some point in the future.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26773947 - 06/22/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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And your point is?
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy] 3
#26773951 - 06/22/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Do you not understand that we are still at the start of this? You’re worried about war and famine that hasn’t yet occurred while people actively die of the virus.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 5
#26773952 - 06/22/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edgelords don’t need to make a point, they are the point.
Id guess that maybe only 3% of the population of some states have been exposed/infected at this point in time.
People, there’s still 97% of the population it can burn through. I don’t think we even comprehend what that will truly mean if it happens, all the implications and what and how it will change things.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] 5
#26773955 - 06/22/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams said: I predict that 100% of humans alive on the Earth right now will die at some point in the future.
I predict that 100% you are unable to consider the bigger picture.
I'm familiar with black and white thinking - people like you and Bodhi and Hamhead express it well - but anyone with life experience and wisdom knows well the folly of ignoring all the grey and nuanced aspects of life/existence.
Fine, we're all going to die.
Not fine, is people like you espousing ignorance which causes mass amounts of unnecessary suffering, left unchecked.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
#26773975 - 06/22/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: Do you not understand that we are still at the start of this? You’re worried about war and famine that hasn’t yet occurred while people actively die of the virus.
To be fair the war and famine thing comes on pretty quick..
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: InfiniteDreams] 1
#26773981 - 06/22/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams said: I predict that 100% of humans alive on the Earth right now will die at some point in the future.
You should drop this nugget in every Shrommery RIP thread.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: koods] 1
#26774160 - 06/22/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ShroomerInTheRye said: You’re worried about war and famine that hasn’t yet occurred while people actively die of the virus.
Hasnt occurred? Around 8 million people die every year of famine.
If anyone should wear a mask its fat people to keep them from eating more than they're fair share.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: mushboy]
#26774192 - 06/22/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Now half a billion are set to die?
Possibly from climate change and related famine/war. Which is a real tangible treat to all of us.
Dont forget your mask tho At least we can feel the illusion of control with that while we careen towards numerous other disasters.
Actually my Spirit Guide has been completely consistent about the 500 million dead approximation, observe: .
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Asante said on 27/1/20: Take this with however many grains of salt you wish:
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Spirit Guide says:
Something had to happen. The havoc mankind wreaks outward had to return back inward. A nuclear holocaust would have greatly increased the burden upon the ecosystem. It would have to be something that directly affects mankind, directly reduces its destructive process and with it, ease the burden on the environment. That something, is Coronavirus 2019-nCoV, a century after the Spanish Flu.
Forget everything you had planned. This will take priority fast over anything you had planned. Humanity is entering a crisis period. Expect this northern hemisphere winter to be the winter of the Great Pandemic.
China has a large diaspora. Chinese wil scramble towards their relatives abroad and will be infectious during the asymptomatic period. For the death toll of the pandemic, there could be no worse point of origin than China.
Mouth masks. Gloves. Desinfectant. Essential foods to be able to camp out at home when infection is sweeping the streets. Expect it to reach your town and prepare accordingly. Water, electricity, society will not break down but it will be advantageous to make preparations to withdraw from it, to have protective means for mingling and have cough lozenges and OTC medications for the airways, against allergy and aspirins capable of suppressing high fevers in case disease strikes the home.
Expect this disease to become a very big deal, fast. Expect mutations to occur in the months until vaccines become available.
Something big had to happen to drive humanity back into each other's arms.
2019-nCoV is part of this process, the perfect storm to turn the tide on humanity's destructive path. Humbled, the survivors will mend their ways.
As much as I like to get you on your hind legs, I'm afraid this is not a drill. This is the literal crisis I had you prepare for through all my metaphorical scenarios.
Deal with it.
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Asante said on 14/3/20: On 8-8-19 my Spirit Guide had a discussion with me, that an imminent great disaster was needed for humanity and how it was between several methods and death rates.
In the end the verdict fell on Disease, and a staggeringly high death rate.
It sounds way out of proportion, my apologies.
Theres no nice way to say it so I'll show it as the desktop image I made of the divine decree, silver on black:

Lets hope it will not come to be this way.
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Re: Viral outbreak in China - Coronavirus Pandemic 2020 [Re: Asante]
#26774219 - 06/22/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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gigadeath is a cool bandname. whoever owns it would need to be exponentially better at guitar than Dave Mustaine though
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