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Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed
    #2676243 - 05/14/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I am have been experiencing yellowish brownish fluid build-up in some parts of my grain jars. Mycelia colonizes but it seems to slow down or stop where there is too much fluid. How can I tell wet spots (bacillus) from grain exudation of metabolites ("sweat")?

Secondly, i have experienced sour rot from my jars overheating themselves from colonization (even when left at room temperature). is it possible to have grain rot although the grain had been properly sterilized?


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Re: Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed [Re: taibensis]
    #2676368 - 05/14/04 12:43 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The fluid is a bacteria contam that is fairly common on grains, it's not good, my guess is they wern't soaked for 24 hrs. (only a guess)

Overheating from colonization, no way, well maby if room temp is 96f.


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Re: Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed [Re: taibensis]
    #2676392 - 05/14/04 12:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

No, if it's sterilized properly you won't get sour rot. My rotttie too had a HUGE problem with sour rot (lost a total of 15 pan cyan jars to it). She now put finch seed in very hot (not boiling) water, and then allows it to soak for 20 - 24 hours, then PC at 15 PSI for 1 hour 20 minutes. This seems to have alleviated her problems.

EDIT: She doesn't keep the seed at a constant heat, she just allows the water to naturally cool.


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Re: Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed [Re: taibensis]
    #2676398 - 05/14/04 12:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Just my 2 cents but it sounds like you didn't let it drain long enough. (I.E. too wet.) Grain needs to be saturated and ALL the extra water drained. Try letting it drain longer or even blotting it with paper towel. Just my dumbass opinion.


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Re: Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed [Re: taibensis]
    #2676407 - 05/14/04 12:51 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Oh shit yeah, you gotta let it drain really well.


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Re: Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed [Re: HaveABeer420]
    #2677140 - 05/14/04 10:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

well assume that the grain was soaked for 24hrs, and drained thoroughly, because that's what I did.

but my question was unanswered. how do you tell the difference between grain sweat and grain rot?


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Re: Wild Bird Finch Seed - Quart Jar PROBLEM - Help Needed [Re: taibensis]
    #2677368 - 05/14/04 11:59 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Sweat usualyy occurs towards the end of colonization
Wet spot shows up earlier and has an oily apperance .
Sweat almost looks like piss in the jar , small , straw colored droplets .
Try cutting back on amount of water used , that or if doing the soak grain method , allow it to drain longer prior to placing in the jars .
Also try different brand of grain , some brands seem to be more likely to get such nasties due to the way grain is handledprior to sale .


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